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Collin Powell as McCain's VP if Obama wins nomination?

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ahh.. a black republican.

hm.. McCain can also pick Condeliza Rice as VP if's Hilary/Obama ticket.

your feelings?
 
if Collin Powell was ever going to run, it would have been in 92 or 96.

I haven't gotten any impression that he's interested in it (see also: Condi) and I think his wife has something to do with it.

besides, McCain really needs a younger VP.
 
No chance in the world. Powell would be a liability at this point anyway.

1.)He brings no strengths that McCain doesn't already have.

2.) It would not appreciably increase the R's black vote. (are you going to vote for a charismatic black president, or a charismatic black vice president under a white guy?)

3.) It would probably supress some of the R's vote in certain racist areas.

4.) Powell is permanently tainted by his speech at the UN supporting the invasion of Iraq. It's literally a ready made attack ad against your ticket.

5.) He probably wouldn't accept.


 
^ Yeah, McCain doesn't need another "military" or foreign policy person as VP.

I say it'll be a young charismatic repub up-and-coming govermor who has demonstrated good economic/fiscal and tax policy.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
^ Yeah, McCain doesn't need another "military" or foreign policy person as VP.

I say it'll be a young charismatic repub up-and-coming govermor who has demonstrated good economic/fiscal and tax policy.

Fern
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Is there any left? (eep cant believe I said that lol)
 
Hillary would be the perfect choice for McCain. She is already campaigning against his opposition. What a worthless traitor.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Fern
^ Yeah, McCain doesn't need another "military" or foreign policy person as VP.

I say it'll be a young charismatic repub up-and-coming govermor who has demonstrated good economic/fiscal and tax policy.

Fern
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Is there any left? (eep cant believe I said that lol)
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I'm hearing Sanford, Thune and the one guy's name I can't remember. He has a lot economic experience. Was head of the US office of Management and Budget (or something like that) and is a successful governor in the mid-west. We discussed him a few days ago and people from his state said he's not interested.

Lately, I've been wondering if Mcain needs to wait until the Dem primary is settled before he starts choosing.

If it were me, I wouldn't walk away from a cushy Governor job if McCain was up against Obama. Hillary, maybe yeah, a better chance to win.

Of course as the Dem primary goes on, we'll see how beat up both Hillary and Obama get.

Also, McCain can now get the Repub to coalese around him. And has a breather from Dems attacks etc to setup better organizations across the US. The longer the Dems battle it out against each, the more money he can raise & stockpile etc.

It might be he starts looking like he's got a real good chance and can therefore get a decent VP candidate.

I'm thinking last night made McCain a real happy man for several reasons.

Fern

 
Speak of the devil, at this very moment this topic is being covered on the nightly network news. In terms of a VP choice, a quizzed John McCain has said any questions of a VP choice were not appropriate until he clinched the nomination. Now that the clinch exists. McCain says that he is opening up a selection committee process now.

Even as a partisan democrat, and as not someone who is an big Colin Powell fan, I think Powell was shamelessly used and abused by GWB, and it would be good for Colin Powell and good for this country to bring back Colin Powell into public service. Powell may not be free from sin, but he does deserve a chance to go out on top. In troubled times, Powell showed he does have integrity and opposed the John Boltons of this country.

I doubt Powell would even want a VP slot, but whomever wins the Presidency in 08, they would be a fool not to bring Powell back into national service. Powell is an uniquely American product who rose because he had much of the right stuff. As for Condi Rice, other than playing a piano, I can't think of a single virtue she has.
 
Gen. Powell has a wife. Wife says no. That's that.

Being the upstanding fellow that he is I doubt he would want to soil his good name anyway.
 
I doubt Powell would want to be used again just to be a token VP for the GOP party. Powell wanted to run on his own in 1995 but was cautious about it and was eventually dissuaded by a friend of his named Earl G. Graves.

In 1995, when Colin Powell's name was floated as a possible 1996 presidential candidate, Powell reportedly spoke of being cautioned by publisher Earl G. Graves about the phenomenon described by the Bradley effect. With regard to opinion polls showing Powell leading a hypothetical race with then-incumbent Bill Clinton, Powell was quoted as saying, "Every time I see Earl Graves, he says, 'Look, man, don't let them hand you no crap. When [white voters] go in that booth, they ain't going to vote for you.'"[26][10]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

After being used by Bush and friends like a ass napkin and being tossed away I doubt he has any ambition to want to be a token VP president for McMcain or the GOP.
 
Not to be overly simple about this but if the Rs pick a black guy to be the VP they'll never avoid or be able to defend against the accusation that they picked the guy for no other reason than he was black.

At that point he's just the token black guy and adds nothing to the ticket. He might even hurt the ticket. I mean, if you're going to vote for a presidential ticket just because there's a black guy on it, you might as well vote for the ticket with the black guy on top.

Colin Powell might be the ONLY exception to that theory. But if they pick up JC Watts, or some other guy that most of the US has never heard of, 300 million pairs of eyes will do a collective roll.

The way to get the Rs charged up and ready to vote again is to find a guy who is everything McCain isn't... Young and Conservative... then hope that's enough to get all the disappointed conservatives out to vote.



 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Fern
^ Yeah, McCain doesn't need another "military" or foreign policy person as VP.

I say it'll be a young charismatic repub up-and-coming govermor who has demonstrated good economic/fiscal and tax policy.

Fern
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Is there any left? (eep cant believe I said that lol)
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Tim Pawlenty.
Charlie Christ.
Sonny Perdue.
 
IMO, McCain should consider Mitt Romney as his vice president. Romney is perceived (note the word perceived) to be more conservative than McCain and this would mollify the concerns of the conservative base of the Republican Party. Mitt Romney also has extensive experience in the private sector as the CEO of Bain Capital and helped save the 2002 Winter Olympics from disaster. Since McCain is weak on experience related to the economy, Romney would be a perfect complement by compensating for McCain's weaknesses.
 
Originally posted by: KrispyKreme50
IMO, McCain should consider Mitt Romney as his vice president. Romney is perceived (note the word perceived) to be more conservative than McCain and this would mollify the concerns of the conservative base of the Republican Party. Mitt Romney also has extensive experience in the private sector as the CEO of Bain Capital and helped save the 2002 Winter Olympics from disaster. Since McCain is weak on experience related to the economy, Romney would be a perfect complement by compensating for McCain's weaknesses.
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If he chooses Romney I'll vote for Nader.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: KrispyKreme50
IMO, McCain should consider Mitt Romney as his vice president. Romney is perceived (note the word perceived) to be more conservative than McCain and this would mollify the concerns of the conservative base of the Republican Party. Mitt Romney also has extensive experience in the private sector as the CEO of Bain Capital and helped save the 2002 Winter Olympics from disaster. Since McCain is weak on experience related to the economy, Romney would be a perfect complement by compensating for McCain's weaknesses.
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If he chooses Romney I'll vote for Nader.
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If you don't like Romney that's perfectly fine with me but at least you can explain why you don't like him. Isn't that what P&N is supposed to be all about?
 
Originally posted by: KrispyKreme50
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: KrispyKreme50
IMO, McCain should consider Mitt Romney as his vice president. Romney is perceived (note the word perceived) to be more conservative than McCain and this would mollify the concerns of the conservative base of the Republican Party. Mitt Romney also has extensive experience in the private sector as the CEO of Bain Capital and helped save the 2002 Winter Olympics from disaster. Since McCain is weak on experience related to the economy, Romney would be a perfect complement by compensating for McCain's weaknesses.
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If he chooses Romney I'll vote for Nader.
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If you don't like Romney that's perfectly fine with me but at least you can explain why you don't like him. Isn't that what P&N is supposed to be all about?
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You mean other than being a bloviating flip-flopping hypocrite?

And those are his good qualities ...
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
if Collin Powell was ever going to run, it would have been in 92 or 96.

I haven't gotten any impression that he's interested in it (see also: Condi) and I think his wife has something to do with it.

besides, McCain really needs a younger VP.
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Agh yeah, I would have voted for him in 2000 (first time I was 18).
 
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