if you absolutely want to goto a place like NYU, and can somehow afford it, but don't get in.... just go to another decent univ, work hard, get good grades, and apply for transfer. a friend of mine just transfered from a small private school in penn, to nyu stern. goodluck tho.
I lived in Markley, only for a year. The worst of the worst, I know, but I've seen most of the others, and they're absolute crap compared to MSU, Ohio State, and Grand Valley State (a small public school here in MI).
IB isn't really worth much for domestic colleges. If you're going international, it's almost a prerequisite. Most domestic colleges consider IB to be very similar to AP. (There are, however, some schools that give special recognition/$$ to IB graduates...no big name schools there though). IB's biggest role is kind of like...a tie-breaker. Two people w/equal stats...and one of them took IB...the one w/IB is getting in. Two people from the same school w/IB...and only one of them took IB...that other person will look "bad" (relatively bad, but not necessarily rejection-bad).
I'll give you an example--I'm an IB graduate, and I was admitted to my 'dream' school on early action. I had several non-IB friends (very similar to me 'stats' wise) that were not admitted early action...some of them made it regular, some of them were wait-listed.
Anyhow, that's my perception of IB from my own experiences & from talking to schools directly (for example, the acting director of undergrad engineering admissions @ cornell univ).
As for your grades/SAT...yes, they need to be pulled up, but no, they're not the end of the world.
What kind of extra-curricular activities/service do you do? More technical schools won't care as much about extra-curriculars...academics are more important. But at schools like the ivy-league-ers, extra-currics are pretty d*mn important. It's not really the # of stuff you have...it's how much time you've put into each and what you've done in each. Showing a concentrated interest, rising to leadership mess, blah blah blah blah blah.
college admission process is a pain in the ass isn't it?
edit: don't sweat college too much...not getting into the best school in the country isn't the end of the world. Even at the best schools, education is only what you make of it. Someone going to the local state university can easily end up better off than a Harvard graduate. There will be opportunities to make something of your college life (beyond going to classes/partying lol).
Edit: Besides, if you want business...it's graduate school that *really* matters. Do well in undergrad...befriend some profs...and set your mark high. Of course, I don't have any first-hand experience w/this, but I have talked to many people who do.
Edit2: Oh...don't leave out the application. An excellent set of essays can make ALL the difference in the world. They can literally take a mediocre candidate and turn him/her into a 'must accept' candidate.
Well, my friends retook them in senior year (after they'd been accepted) to try and pass out of classes. Like I knew one guy who had double 3's in Physics C...and it took double 4's to skip out, so he took it again (and made it). I mean, it won't hurt you to retake it, especially if it means you get out of another over-crowded freshman class.
Getting into U of M is going to be even more difficult than NYU.
What kind of Business major you thinking about. MIS, Accounting, ect.
What kind of Business major you thinking about. MIS, Accounting, ect.
i would venture that you are not ivy league material. i mean even if you're smarter than your GPA indicates, you haven't shown you have the work ethic they want. but there are still tons of other options for school, it's not like you can't get into any college. you might get into NYU, you never know. definetely retake the SAT though, as your score is not good. i mean i got a 1410 and i've been rejected by public state schools.
You're not going to get into Stern with those grades and SAT score unless you're a non-asian minority and maybe female. NYU has 1 crap school that everyone gets into, I think its the one the Olsen twins are going to. Their 3 or so flagship schools are the only ones worth going to.
Lots of good schools don't have undergrad business programs. Their undergrads just do economics and then an MBA later on in life.
Just go to the flagship state school unless you get into a nationally ranked top tier school.
If you do get into a business program, only do
1. Accounting
2. Supply chain/ operations management (sometimes called management SCIENCE)
3. Finance/Econ
everything else in business is unemployable. especially marketing (unless it is science based and the heavy focus is in research).
Lots of good schools don't have undergrad business programs. Their undergrads just do economics and then an MBA later on in life.
Just go to the flagship state school unless you get into a nationally ranked top tier school.
If you do get into a business program, only do
1. Accounting
2. Supply chain/ operations management (sometimes called management SCIENCE)
3. Finance/Econ
everything else in business is unemployable. especially marketing (unless it is science based and the heavy focus is in research).
Not with a 3.1.
<-rejected from NYU (going to UCSD). My stats:
4.0w 3.6uw
1450 SAT
780/770/760 SAT II (us history/writing/math iic)
Community service, EC, all that junk = irrelevant. GPA and SAT's come first. Also your talk of "raising" your SAT makes no sense - they're changing it to a new three-part test with a writing section.
If you get in with those scores you're lucky. It CAN happen - I know people who got into some great schools with crappy grades (although not quite as low on the SAT scale as you) - but I wouldn't bet my life on it. You'll definately need to apply to an ample amount of places.
And everyone who tells you about getting into college has a different experience than you will have. It gets SIGNIFICANTLY harder every year. This past year, 2004, was the hardest year ever by stats.
if you are an international student you will have a better chance them most
3.1 and a 1100+ sat score will get you into most florida universities (didnt read any posts above)
im at UCF in orlando right now and i had a 3.3 weighted and a 1080 sat... this was back in 2000 though.
dont worry just bust your ass this year and do some service hours!
3.1 and a 1100+ sat score will get you into most florida universities (didnt read any posts above)
im at UCF in orlando right now and i had a 3.3 weighted and a 1080 sat... this was back in 2000 though.
dont worry just bust your ass this year and do some service hours!
I just graduated from High School this last year and my grades were similiar to yours.
3.0 unweighted, 3.2 weighted.
3's in AP us history, ap environmental science, ap gov, and ap language and composition.
1360 SAT
Accepted to Purdue, Baylor, University of Oregon, UC Santa Cruz.
Ended up choosing Oregon because of their excellent business program.
You definitely have the ability to get into many good schools, especially if you maintain a low B average this last year(I slacked even harder senior year, with a 2.3 my final semester).
3.0 unweighted, 3.2 weighted.
3's in AP us history, ap environmental science, ap gov, and ap language and composition.
1360 SAT
Accepted to Purdue, Baylor, University of Oregon, UC Santa Cruz.
Ended up choosing Oregon because of their excellent business program.
You definitely have the ability to get into many good schools, especially if you maintain a low B average this last year(I slacked even harder senior year, with a 2.3 my final semester).
bah, I've just gotten my transcript as of where they stand right now and I'm number 101 out of 600 seniors...well at least I'm in the top 20 but I'm still freaking out over college though...I'm thinking of UF or UCF for maybe two years and get near the top of my class and then go out of state for "something better". What do you think the chances are for me being sucessful with that plan?
Cliff notes for the people who haven't read the entire thread:
I slacked off in high school(really badly) and now I'm kinda screwed in my choices for colleges. I would like to know what are some good colleges that I can get into that I actually have a realistic chance of getting in...the major I'm interested in is business(I'm pretty sure I want to do accounting but I still want to keep my choices open)
Cliff notes for the people who haven't read the entire thread:
I slacked off in high school(really badly) and now I'm kinda screwed in my choices for colleges. I would like to know what are some good colleges that I can get into that I actually have a realistic chance of getting in...the major I'm interested in is business(I'm pretty sure I want to do accounting but I still want to keep my choices open)
hold up man-before we even start talking about NYU/top schools do you or your parents have $50,000 to shell out per year. Can you qualify for aid? I'll give you my best friend's story. Moved from Staten Island (Catholic School) to Long Island (reputable public school which is well accreditied.) He took 9 AP's in high school at the top in junior year while sister attended/dormed NYU. Then some family business deal iwent sour, and they couldn't afford NYU for her or my friend. The sister dropped out, and my friend didn't get any aid. So he goes to a state school now, working his ass off to transfer. So spazo, realize this:
It can go any way.
It can go any way.
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