College is over rated!

[LiQiCE]

College is great because of the parties, the college girls ... Seriously though I still am a firm believer that the college experience is more about the things you learn OUTSIDE of the classroom than what you learn inside the classroom. Maybe you can get that in the military too, I don't know. But living on my own at college, I think I've learned alot of invaluable things. (Living on your own outside of college might do these things too, but college provides a security blanket, because they still provide alot of the bare necessities like food (no matter how disgusting it is), and lots of people your own age at a college campus that you might not get elsewhere). I'm in my senior year and I definitely wouldn't trade my 4 years here for anything.

 

[Helpless]

I agree; In today's Air Force, they do nothing but whine, and everyone thinks they fly fighter jets ...should hear those clowns when we used to task them to deploy to the field with us...

 

[jcballer1]

MARINES !!!

 

[rahvin]

<<The degree doesn't make someone a better employee.>>

Nope but that little slip of paper buys opportunities, something that will be VERY valuable if our economy goes in the toilet.

 

[Harvey]

<<ollege is over rated!>>

HARDLY !!!

Going to college does not make you smarter, and graduating from college does not guarantee that you will succeed in life. I've known college grads who were complete morons. I am appalled at the poor spelling and grammar I see from many of them who are otherwise very intelligent.

That said, when you are starting out in the real world, that degree is a credential that will put you several notches above another job applicant without one, and that will continue throughout your career, at least until you have enough other real benchmark notches in your belt to overcome that disparity.

There are two major things to be gained from college:

1. You can learn how to learn. There are techniques for studying and learning information that are brought into play in a college environment.

2. You can learn how to communicate with others in a group of (supposedly) brighter people. This isn't strictly true, but overall, a college population is above average in intelligence. The entrance exams and requirements are designed to eliminate most of the dropouts and near-dropouts from manditory education (grades K - 12), so it is a place where you can learn to interact and compete at a higher level.

What you make of the opportunity is up to you.

 

[perry]

And no modern war has been won without air superiority. That's why we didn't win Vietnam, couldn't get air superiority. That's why we kicked ass in Iraq -- their air force was non-existant after a couple of days.

Let's face it, all the services rely on one another to work. Inter-service rivalry doesn't work in war, they all gotta work together or people die.

 

[Ariel]

Whether it is the military or college, it is all in the experience and what you take from it. Personally, the military was not and never will be for me. I went to college and consider those 4 1/2 years to be very valuable to me. Some people do take advantage of it and waste their time there, but that is their own fault. Military is more structured and so you have less chance to waste your time (I think). In college, you don't have someone telling you what to do so everything is based on what you choose to do (go to class, study for your test etc.) College is not all about classes and your degree - it is also about the other experiences that go along with all of that. What you get from any experience is all by the choices and the decisions that you make.

 

[BoberFett]

Ariel nailed this one. The military or college: both can be very valuable, both can be completely worthless. It's about what you put into it, and what you get out of it. In my case, the military was more valuable than college. After I graduated high school I wasn't ready for college. It would have been a collossal waste of time and money.

Within the next couple years, I may consider going back to school, now that I feel I'd get something out of it besides a beer belly.

 

[StageLeft]

I got something out of university but I do feel that older people certainly make more use of the schooling aspect of it. I bummed around but I have a better attitude now.

 

[fdiskboy]

Sorry to go extremely off-topic here, but perry are you saying that we COULDN'T get air-superiority in Vietnam? What a crock.

The problem with that war is the politicians wouldn't let the warriors fight it.

The point is still valid--no war has been won by air power alone. See Balkans 101.
Ground pounders are a necessity. BTW, the Russians on the Eastern Front didn't have any air power to speak of, and they did alright.

 

[seewhy]

Dude....this world is about credentials, not how well you can do in your job. My wife just got a MBA from one of the top 5 B-School, even though I did a lot of her home work(which got pretty high marks), and have much more industry knowledge than she does, she can still make 6-figure easy right out of school.....

You can say whatever you want, but if you go to the right school, with the right degree, you can do much better than going military. You think Anand will be better off quiting MIT and join Army?? don't think so!! But off course, if you are wasting your time in crappy major in out of no where school, than getting real experience is gonna serve you better!!

 

[JeremyJoe]

join a program called ROTC airforce where they pay for your college in exchange for 4 years of service for them

 

[Windogg]

Overrated?

Nothing like a little get together with some light refreshments (4 guys and 20 girls jammed into one suite w/ lotsa booze) and a good time. Then you bring on the striptwister and some Truth or Dare (AKA boys and girls fondling each other).

Ahhh boy do I miss college.

Windogg

 

[beat mania]

I dunno, I feel I actually learned something in college ...

 

[Handle]

I thought Anand went to a university in North Carolina, not MIT.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I LOVED college and would not have traded it for anything. And NOW I am in the military

 

[Triumph]

<< You can learn how to communicate with others in a group of (supposedly) brighter people. This isn't strictly true, but overall, a college population is above average in intelligence. >>



well, if most of the population can't communicate on this higher level, wouldn't it be better to learn how to communicate on their lower level, since there are more of them? i think so.

 

[Suicidal]

College is a waste of time, i graduated and can't find a job. I should have spent my money on something useful like a vintage marshall guitar amp. College is way overrated.

 

[rahvin]

<<College is a waste of time, i graduated and can't find a job. I should have spent my money on something useful like a vintage marshall guitar amp. College is way overrated.>>

Don't major in a stupid major that there are no jobs in and that isn't a problem. It's really easy to take stupid easy classes in college and graduate into a field that has 3 jobs a year and 300 grads. Gotta pick a real world applicable major or it IS pointless. Not many people hiring political scientists or philosphers.

Business, Medicine, Law and applied science are where the jobs are, any other major and you are a dime a dozen.

 

[8ball]

Where I work, there are engineers with degrees and without. Those who have one say no one could do their job without a degree. However, the best and smartest employees here do not have a degree and could run circles around those that do. I make just as much as my counterparts with degrees and have been in the company 5 years less. Yes, the degree got them their interview, but so did my military experience. Now that I have the experience in this company, I have been offered 6 figure jobs. But that would require relocating to places like L.A. or Dallas or Baltimore.

Four years getting paid and experience, or four years getting in debt and a piece of paper and NO experience. You decide.

 

[Raspewtin]

<< Business, Medicine, Law and applied science are where the jobs are, any other major and you are a dime a dozen. >>




No offense Rahvin, but listening to this thinking was my big mistake in college. I took specific course and majors b/c they were &quot;smart&quot; choices, etc, instead of actually taking courses I would enjoy and have fun with. The result was a fast trip to a financially rewarding, passionless life. For me, the best part of college was the social part, the courses were a waste.

 

[starlitt]

The only reason I would join the military is to fly the military aircraft!!! F-16 Or maybe I can learn how to be sniper