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college grad can't find job; wants her $70k tuition back

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Anyone else think that this will come back to bite her in the ass later? Potential employers going to know her as the whiny brat who tried to sue a college for her tuition money back because she couldn't find a job.
 
Originally posted by: Beattie
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
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wow, talk about entitlement mentality...
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How?
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She thinks that because she went to college, she's entitled to a job.

She in fact paid for the education. The rest is up to her.
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I work with a few people (and one that stands out) that got a piece of paper but are worthless to the company I work for. If you went to school to fidn a good paying job, getting a job is a crapshoot. You have to work towards getting a job and in IT you better not think that there is nothing left to learn once you get a job. The standout I work with I have told for months now to start learning Java and Swing in her spare time. She keeps telling me she took a class in school on Java.
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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What are you suggesting? Try less? Are you putting these people down?
 
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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Uh, just?

What more would an employer be looking for? I can only think of an internship or possible undergrad research.
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I think "just" was used in a different way.

As in "if only I can achieve this", "it's just a few years away", "if I can just get this done, I'm golden."

NOT, "those people just barely made the goal"

that help?
at least, that's the way I read it. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Anyone else think that this will come back to bite her in the ass later? Potential employers going to know her as the whiny brat who tried to sue a college for her tuition money back because she couldn't find a job.
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If hired people I would google their names first. If hers came up with this I would not hire her.

 
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
im all for one getting as much education as they want, but there are far too many people in college that are just wasting their time and money
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Yup.
 
She's suing because she can't find a job in this economy? Even people who have a long-proven ability to find jobs have difficulty finding jobs in this economy. What a twat.
 
don't most schools that have placement services say that it's not guarranteed? besides, look at the fucking economy - NO ONE IS GETTING JOBS!!

at least it sounds like she got a decent degree, and not something like Theater.
 
I'm not defending her, but some university career services departments are basically useless. The school I went to lost rank in the USNWR after many students surveyed negatively rated our department. At least, the school should not be publishing misleading employment statistics in its prospectus.
 
I do wonder what jobs exactly she's going for. I know actual hands on experience counts for a lot, I mean if I was hiring someone to say manage the IT department I'd take the 10 year self taught veteran over the fresh out of college minimal experience applicant. She may need to lower he expectations and suck up a shitty job to build experience, and to be honest a lot of people are doing that just to survive.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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Uh, just?

What more would an employer be looking for? I can only think of an internship or possible undergrad research.
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I think "just" was used in a different way.

As in "if only I can achieve this", "it's just a few years away", "if I can just get this done, I'm golden."

NOT, "those people just barely made the goal"

that help?
at least, that's the way I read it. 😉
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This. Sure you can probably land a decent job with just an engineering degree and a decent GPA (depending on the specific major), but it's the grads with (as as been posted) references, research experience, recommendations, and above all contacts (probably from said experience/internship) who are getting the good jobs.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
don't most schools that have placement services say that it's not guarranteed? besides, look at the fucking economy - NO ONE IS GETTING JOBS!!

at least it sounds like she got a decent degree, and not something like Theater.
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Yea, I imagine no school guarantees job placement, maybe just job placement assistance. It also says it just provides free services for any graduate for life - not "we'll find you a fucking job you entitled lazy and foolish foolish being".

I don't know how much an IT degree is worth in a market where people with tons of experience are willing to work the same job at the same pay.

She should just suck it up like every other college graduate and just apply to damn near everything and take anything - even if it's not a "good" job.
 
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Eli
LOL, good luck winning that case.

She paid for education, she got education. There is no guaranteed job in this scenario.

If that was the case, Art majors would be filing lawsuits left and right. 😉
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It doesn't sound like she's very educated. Maybe she deserves her $70k back as long as she gives back the little piece of paper that says she's somehow not a dumbass.
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I see this "Monroe college" advertise on the subway cars in NYC all the time. When they advertise getting a BS degree in 18months and guarantees a job placement, she's one of the many who falls for it. 70k? I doubt she could had afford it without financial aid. She probably paid a few grand at most.
 
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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Uh, just?

What more would an employer be looking for? I can only think of an internship or possible undergrad research.
Click to expand...

I think "just" was used in a different way.

As in "if only I can achieve this", "it's just a few years away", "if I can just get this done, I'm golden."

NOT, "those people just barely made the goal"

that help?
at least, that's the way I read it. 😉
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This. Sure you can probably land a decent job with just an engineering degree and a decent GPA (depending on the specific major), but it's the grads with (as as been posted) references, research experience, recommendations, and above all contacts (probably from said experience/internship) who are getting the good jobs.
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It's hard to get a really good internship without a good GPA and a worthwhile degree
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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Uh, just?

What more would an employer be looking for? I can only think of an internship or possible undergrad research.
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A degree, references, maybe some time spent with the company as an intern so that they know something about your work habits, that sort of thing.
That degree doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be a good employee - it just shows that you can jump through the right hoops. Some very stupid people still graduate from college.
🙂
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Hhhmmm, I know a lot of stupid people who have dropped out of engineering degrees, and I know a lot of smart people who have graduated with engineering degrees, but I can't think of any stupid people who graduated with engineering degrees. Not saying they're not out there, but I think in most cases an engineering graduate is going to be a smart person. This still says nothing about their work ethic, just saying.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Hhhmmm, I know a lot of stupid people who have dropped out of engineering degrees, and I know a lot of smart people who have graduated with engineering degrees, but I can't think of any stupid people who graduated with engineering degrees. Not saying they're not out there, but I think in most cases an engineering graduate is going to be a smart person. This still says nothing about their work ethic, just saying.
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Engineering definitely requires more effort to get through - but not necessarily that you be smarter. There are plenty of dumbasses playing the system that are absolutely retarded. And it's not just a general statement but from being in class / working environments with them.

You meet these people later on in life. They can barely do their work (if at all) and they are still mainly playing the system to get ahead/anywhere. At a good company they hopefully get caught and weeded out. At most companies though it seems it's likely they're managing you.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: irishScott
lol. Sounds like those Engineering majors who think that if they just get the degree and a good GPA that they'll land the job of their dreams. 😛
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Uh, just?

What more would an employer be looking for? I can only think of an internship or possible undergrad research.
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A degree, references, maybe some time spent with the company as an intern so that they know something about your work habits, that sort of thing.
That degree doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be a good employee - it just shows that you can jump through the right hoops. Some very stupid people still graduate from college.
🙂
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Hhhmmm, I know a lot of stupid people who have dropped out of engineering degrees, and I know a lot of smart people who have graduated with engineering degrees, but I can't think of any stupid people who graduated with engineering degrees. Not saying they're not out there, but I think in most cases an engineering graduate is going to be a smart person. This still says nothing about their work ethic, just saying.
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GA, what are you currently studying? I know you did Astronomy for 2 years IIRC.
 
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