College Football Playoff Comittee

[Adrenaline]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...acks-chair-college-football-playoff-committee

Arkansas athletic director Jeff Long has been named the first chairman of the College Football Playoff selection committee.

A news conference will be held Wednesday in Dallas to announce the committee's members.

ESPN and The Associated Press have identified the other 12 members of the committee as:

• Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez

• Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Gould, a former Air Force Academy superintendent

• USC athletic director Pat Haden

• Former NCAA executive vice president Tom Jernstedt

• West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck

• Former NFL and Ole Miss quarterback Archie Manning

• Former Nebraska coach/athletic director Tom Osborne

• Clemson athletic director Dan Radakovich

• Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

• Former Big East commissioner Mike Tranghese

• Former USA Today reporter Steve Wieberg

• Former Stanford/Notre Dame/Washington coach Tyrone Willingham

The selection committee will choose the four teams that advance to the College Football Playoff beginning after the 2014 regular season, as well as rank and place at-large teams in the noncontract New Year's Day bowls -- the Cotton, Fiesta and Chick-fil-A.

For Condoleezza Rice:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/10/11/3682388/joseph-goodman-condoleezza-rice.html

Of course, that’s what happens when you’re born and raised in Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, Ala., go to school at Notre Dame and then teach at Stanford.

 

[SunnyD]

So Arkansas, USC, WV, Ole Miss, Nebraska, Clemson, Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington will always make it into the playoffs, right?

 

[highland145]

Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

Impressive lady.

 

[rudeguy]

Impressive lady.

she's a football nut too

But Archie Manning? Seriously?

I hate that guy.

 

[smackababy]

So Arkansas, USC, WV, Ole Miss, Nebraska, Clemson, Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington will always make it into the playoffs, right?

USC until another scandal with paid recruiting bans them for a few years. Hopefully, Alabama will not be in any playoffs again, ever.

 

[thraashman]

Ok, no one that is currently associated with an eligible school should be on the selection committee. Formerly, sure. Current though they have too much to gain from picking their own school. Or at least have alternates where if a school you're associated with is within the top 10 in either major poll the alternate picks instead of you.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Why not teams with the best records make it to the playoffs?

 

[smackababy]

Why not teams with the best records make it to the playoffs?

Because with 114 D1 teams (at least I think it is 114), there isn't a ton of schedule overlap outside of the divisions.

A system like the NFL might work for a similar style (with other bowls besides the BCS National Championship). Best of each Conference plus a few Wild card (best record but lost the conference) to even it out.

The problem comes in that schools make their own schedules. If we go with just a record based system, all the schools would only schedule 'cupcakes' and it would be largely boring season. The good teams would blow out the bad teams and every playoff contender would have an easy schedule. You have to have someone (currently the AP and the coaches poll) rank the teams. The committee would do the same thing, but more in depth I'd assume.

 

[zinfamous]

Why not teams with the best records make it to the playoffs?

It really should be the top 8 teams at the end of the year.

Done. Too simple, I know, and why make things simple?

 

[smackababy]

It really should be the top 8 teams at the end of the year.

Done. Too simple, I know, and why make things simple?

I responded to this in my edit. It isn't that simple. With so many teams, it would be very easy to schedule only the "bad" division 1 schools and get a winning schedule with no real challenge, thus getting into the playoffs with ease.

 

[tmc]

my take is to define the playoffs as follows:

6 conf champs - AAC, ACC, BIG10, BIG12, PAC12, SEC
top 2 teams other than the above 6

to 8 teams: QF, SF and FINAL.

 

[smackababy]

What about non conference teams? It wouldn't be fair for the PAC12 conference champ to go 9-5 and Notre Dame go 12-2 and not make it because the PAC12 scrub squad was guaranteed a spot.

 

[BergeLSU]

she's a football nut too

But Archie Manning? Seriously?

I hate that guy.

He's the one I have the biggest problem with. Athletic Directors and Coaches all have ties with multiple universities. They have a political reason to be unbiased.

Archie Manning has ties with 2 schools: Ole Miss and Tennessee. At this point in his life, he is just a fan, and has been since Eli graduated from Ole Miss.

 

[zinfamous]

I responded to this in my edit. It isn't that simple. With so many teams, it would be very easy to schedule only the "bad" division 1 schools and get a winning schedule with no real challenge, thus getting into the playoffs with ease.

yeah, you're right. I thought about it for less than a minute after I posted and realized that it would be too simple.

I would think that top 16 would be more diverse, but there are still problems with dominant conferences. However, I think that big teams that play in dominant conferences would more or less self-select themselves out of the top 16 or so, allowing good teams from lesser conferences to get in without raising too much of a stink.

I still like the number 16, though, as it goes back to the original NCAA tournament format. Conference Champions, only. (unless you were those Bruins that just waltzed into the NCAA year after year by virtue of not having to play a conference tournament. cheating punks)

Lots of good teams still get left out. TFB, really, considering you already have lots of really good teams being left out.

 

[zinfamous]

What about non conference teams? It wouldn't be fair for the PAC12 conference champ to go 9-5 and Notre Dame go 12-2 and not make it because the PAC12 scrub squad was guaranteed a spot.

It would be fair, because fuck Notre Dame.

 

[rudeguy]

it would be fair, because fuck notre dame. :d

lmfao

 

[zinfamous]

^seriously, though. They can sac up and join a conference. I'm tired of ND and their insignificant fans thinking they are something particularly special and that anyone else in this country actually gives a shit about their historically overrated team.

Or they can just be satisfied competing for a Wildcard, every year, with other (likely more) deserving teams from competitive conferences.

 

[SunnyD]

Because with 114 D1 teams (at least I think it is 114), there isn't a ton of schedule overlap outside of the divisions.

A system like the NFL might work for a similar style (with other bowls besides the BCS National Championship). Best of each Conference plus a few Wild card (best record but lost the conference) to even it out.

The problem comes in that schools make their own schedules. If we go with just a record based system, all the schools would only schedule 'cupcakes' and it would be largely boring season. The good teams would blow out the bad teams and every playoff contender would have an easy schedule. You have to have someone (currently the AP and the coaches poll) rank the teams. The committee would do the same thing, but more in depth I'd assume.

This. It's pretty sad that schools can "pay" to pad their records by basically buying a favorable slate.

The season schedules definitely need to be reworked in college football.

 

[smackababy]

This. It's pretty sad that schools can "pay" to pad their records by basically buying a favorable slate.

The season schedules definitely need to be reworked in college football.

I don't have a huge problem with it because it pumps money into the 'bad' schools they wouldn't normally get. and the AP / Coach's poll take that into consideration. You can't get ranked playing just cupcake schools, unless you're Alabama. I'm sure they'd still be number 1 if they went 14-0 against a bunch of D2 schools.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Because with 114 D1 teams (at least I think it is 114), there isn't a ton of schedule overlap outside of the divisions.

A system like the NFL might work for a similar style (with other bowls besides the BCS National Championship). Best of each Conference plus a few Wild card (best record but lost the conference) to even it out.

The problem comes in that schools make their own schedules. If we go with just a record based system, all the schools would only schedule 'cupcakes' and it would be largely boring season. The good teams would blow out the bad teams and every playoff contender would have an easy schedule. You have to have someone (currently the AP and the coaches poll) rank the teams. The committee would do the same thing, but more in depth I'd assume.

shrink it to 112. 4 conferences of 28 teams. 2 divisions of 14 teams each.

13 divisional games
1 conference championship game (first week of playoffs)
2 week playoffs for a true national champion

can have normal bowl series during the 3 playoff weeks.

i think most teams play 12 games now. if you want to play fewer games, need drop some teams from FBS. for every 4 teams you drop you can drop a game.

if you dropped to 104 teams, then you could have an 11 game division schedule + one exhibition/OOC rivalry game.

a true divisional system with NO VOTERS, NO BIAS, NO "RANKINGS" is possible. i think we will get there eventually its just taking painfully slow.

im sure no one would want to get dropped from FBS, but it happens. i would actually even be a fan of relegation, but thats just crazy talk for now...