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erikistired

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you CAN lock up a laptop as well. if not in a footlocker, then a simple laptop lock (there are multiple designs that attach to your laptop in various ways, i've seen one that even attaches to the vga port) would do wonders against a quick grab. i'm guessing most laptop thefts are people who just see a laptop sitting around unattended and grab it. having a cable looped around a desk leg (our desks were built-ins) would stop something like that from occuring. anything more time consuming than that and a pc becomes just as easy to steal as a laptop.
 

Mellman

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Both...grab a cheap laptop for those boring dumb classes, and the desktop for gaming...also keep a backup of anything school related on both computers, that way you wont get screwed if it gets stolen or breaks :)

 

Soccerman06

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Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.
 

beer

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.

(a) a $20 USB storage device eliminates your point entirely
(b) It's not a matter of you leaving your room locked, but a function of your roommate. Esp when you're drinking or something, sometimes ****** gets left unlocked, it does happen, just lock your ****** up and don't leave valuable things in plain sight.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.

drag and drop across the network ftw? how hard is it to use a usb key or your network cable (or wireless whatever) to drop a file onto a buddy's computer and print it out? or take it to the computer lab?
 
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Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: djmihow
I'm not really looking for taking it to class, althought if I did have a laptop, I would be taking it everywhere I go due fearing it would get stolen. A desktop would be harder to steal. I would make sure of getting a server tower... but the components would be able to get taken out.

Just thinking about this is making me mad because I can't decide..

Lock the side window. I think the major thing is talk to roommate on closing the door and etc. As for the laptop, as long as you keep the bag on you and don't leave unattended with strangers, you should be fine.

You know, we never really had an issue with that. Our door was open most of the time, but there was almost always someone there.

I even left my window open but our window was blocked by a bush, so you can't see our window from the outside. BTW open as in a small crack, so you cant see if unless you maneuver around the bush and then get really close.

I had a laptop lock but I never used it after a month.

Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Jmman
Well, I use an ultraportable 12 inch laptop (PC). It is about the size of a book, so it goes everywhere I go. All of my classrooms have wireless internet as well, so if I get bored with the lecture, I just surf the net, read email, etc......

And this is the only use I've EVER seen for laptops in classrooms. Don't you think that if laptops and tablet PCs were such a slick, useful idea, that someone, somewhere would have used it to take notes? I've been through four years of EE and I've never - not once - seen someone actually take notes on a laptop for an engineering class, on a regular basis. It's just not practical and no matter how you try to do it, you'll always be missing something. If you use a laptop, you can't diagram figures and block diagrams and formulas quickly (quickly = faster than you can write them down on paper). If you're using a tablet PC, then you're constantly having to alternate typing of notes and handwriting of everything else - do you think that's any faster or more efficient?

spiral notebook + the little message flags taht you can buy for $3 at wal-mart to flag important things + highlighters + pencil ftw....

The only thing laptops are useful for is writing code or running through matlab homework somewhere other than in the lab. But you're not doing that in a classroom while you're actively being lectures, but probably at a coffee shop or something.

Agreed, as an engineer you want to use notebook + paper. I buy the expensive $6 notebooks from Staples (the FiveStar Elite ones with spirals that don't break and are covered with a piece of cloth). Pencils / pens + highlighters. Code your notes so you can go back.

The other way is to print your slides if you have any and annotate them by hand.

Tablet PCs actually work well for engineering. I took notes with my friend in our civil engineering class and I think both our notes were pretty good.

If you are not an engineer, I think taking notes with laptop is decent (depends on what class). I was in a political science class, and the guy whips through slides so fast + talks so much that you HAVE to type. The only way I kept up with everything he said was by typing, and I could see that most people typing were blazing away trying to keep up as well. The notebook + pencil users were just writing every other paragraph he was saying.

So it honestly depends, but don't bring a stupid laptop to class because you have only a few words to write down. Unless you can outline and make your notes even better than slides, there is NO POINT. Often you just get distracted and go online. I brought my laptop to my EE class last time and I ended up surfing half the time and missing half hte lecture.



Do get a laptop as dorms suck and there isn't enoguh room. Once you move out to an apartment or whatever, get a big huge desk like me and then you can get a desktop.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: notfred
Don't bring a laptop unless you plan on carrying it around campus to classes with you. DOn't plan on carrying it around campus to classes with you unless you're a CS or CE major.

actually as long as you commute, it's a life-saver to have a laptop.

with laptops so cheap now ($400 for a celeron-M, 40GB, 512mb, 14.1-inch screen, 6-cell battery, cd-dvd combo), it makes more sense to buy a laptop. a decent desktop with an LCD would already be about $400.
 

Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.

drag and drop across the network ftw? how hard is it to use a usb key or your network cable (or wireless whatever) to drop a file onto a buddy's computer and print it out? or take it to the computer lab?

I dont know what he was tryin to do, he just wanted to print somethin. I should have mentioned the guy was a huge stoner and was probably high the whole time wandering around. I dont know if he knew how to do anything in that state.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.

drag and drop across the network ftw? how hard is it to use a usb key or your network cable (or wireless whatever) to drop a file onto a buddy's computer and print it out? or take it to the computer lab?

I dont know what he was tryin to do, he just wanted to print somethin. I should have mentioned the guy was a huge stoner and was probably high the whole time wandering around. I dont know if he knew how to do anything in that state.

well, that doesn't really qualify as a reason not to buy a laptop or a mac. the user being retarded does not make the computer at fault.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Aflac
how well would recording (i.e. voice recorder) the professor's lecture work? if it does work well, a desktop would probably be preferable.

Again, this is something I've never seen anyone actually do. Maybe it's one of those cool-in-concept ideas, but aren't most class lectures tied heavily to what is being shown on a whiteboard or overhead or powerpoint slides? If it's slides, why do you even need the recording? And if it's whiteboard related, what good is just the voice going to do?

Is they have ppt and you can access the slides afterwards, voice recording can work well, although it's not really as easy as just writing notes.
I recorded one lecture once, and didn't really use it, but that's because I took hand written notes anyway, and we had access to the powerpoint slides as well.
This was a humanities class (archaeology).


Get a desktop, load it up with hard drives, and then absorb all the stuff you can from other peoples computers ;)

Oh, and if you do have wireless access, you might stop paying attention in lectures and just browse AT forums instead if you get a laptop.


And one final advantage of not having a laptop:
If you don't type up your notes while in class, and do them by hand instead, if you do go back tp type up your notes, you will be forced to re-read them, which may help you absorb them as well, which is beneficial.
 

Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Get a PC, theres much less hassle if you ever have to connect up to someone elses computer. Example: Your printer breaks down and you cant email your project, you ask to use a friends printer but guess what? Macs are fussy about their printers. I had a friend who this happened to and he wound up looking for like 5 hours, wandering up and down dorm rooms asking if he could use someone's printer.

Dont be so paranoid, people dont barge into your room and steal your laptop. You got more of a chance of someone stealing/losing your laptop while your outside your room than inside.

drag and drop across the network ftw? how hard is it to use a usb key or your network cable (or wireless whatever) to drop a file onto a buddy's computer and print it out? or take it to the computer lab?

I dont know what he was tryin to do, he just wanted to print somethin. I should have mentioned the guy was a huge stoner and was probably high the whole time wandering around. I dont know if he knew how to do anything in that state.

well, that doesn't really qualify as a reason not to buy a laptop or a mac. the user being retarded does not make the computer at fault.

It does for me ;)
 

Christobevii3

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The only thing i use my laptop for is so i can lay on my bed or couch and watch tv, or continue browsing while on the jon.

I recommend a desktop unless those activities excite you.
 

SZLiao214

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i went the middle group and got one of the thinner dtr laptops. I now have a desktop i put together though for gaming. If i could do it all over again i would have gotten a smaller notebook if i had known i was going ot get a desktop for almost free. I would miss the 15.4 widescreen though.

 

Kelemvor

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Unless you absolutely HAVE to have a laptop in class with you, get a desktop. Laptops are probably the number one thing that get stolen at college because people leave their rooms open, leave things laying around, etc.

Much harder (at least it takes longer) to steal a desktop. But if you get a laptop, cable lock it to the steel radiator or something even if it's in your own room.
 

SoundTheSurrender

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Ya thats true, but.. if I go home I don't think I'll be hauling my desktop home... or at least I don't really want to so over breaks it could possibly be stolen...
 

sunase

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>The notebook + pencil users were just writing every other paragraph he was saying.

Off topic, but some of you people sound like you are writing down every single thing the prof says. I've found that I get a lot more out of class by just noting down the important points and using the extra time to pay attention, think, and ask questions. You might want to try it sometime.

The resulting notes are much more efficient when it comes time to review as well because you don't have multiple notebooks to pour through. The only people I've seen who really need the verbatim notes are the ones who don't read the assigned material and need to learn everything just before a test instead of when they were supposed to learn it.
 
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Originally posted by: sunase
>The notebook + pencil users were just writing every other paragraph he was saying.

Off topic, but some of you people sound like you are writing down every single thing the prof says. I've found that I get a lot more out of class by just noting down the important points and using the extra time to pay attention, think, and ask questions. You might want to try it sometime.

The resulting notes are much more efficient when it comes time to review as well because you don't have multiple notebooks to pour through. The only people I've seen who really need the verbatim notes are the ones who don't read the assigned material and need to learn everything just before a test instead of when they were supposed to learn it.

I'm not saying every word the prof says, but sometimes it is quite important.

Take a slide for example...

I remember in our poli sci class we had slides like

Causes of WWII
- Cordon Sanitaire was ready to be harvested
- Blah blah
- Nationalism
-blahblahbalh

Ok so you have like 6 - 7 points on this slide, and each of them need explanation. That's when the prof starts rambling off for each point, maybe like 30 sec - 1 minute for each. If you're not typing, all you have time to do is write down like 3 words plus the slide's main points. That's not very efficient.
 

Leros

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I am also trying to figure out what to take to college for a computer. It sounds like computer geeks (us) should bring desktops for our more powerful computing needs (gaming, photoshop, etc), but that a cheaper laptop is nice for taking to class, study rooms, or coffee shops. This is what I was intending on doing.

I'm wondering how much of a pain it will be bringing my desktop. The dorms are closed over Christmas break, so I have to come home then. Having my parents drive to campus and back home is a 16 hour round trip, which is feasible for Christmas and summer. But I will probably also be off campus during Thanksgiving and Spring Break. What do people do with their desktops during these times? I can't imagine spending two days of my week long vacation driving home due to having a desktop. Do people leave them in their dorm?

Note: My parents are not letting my take my car with me freshman year.
 

JasonE4

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
RPI laptop program FTW
RPI social scene FTL.

Anyway, I'd get a cheap 12" laptop and build a SFF. You'll definitely need to get out of your room to do work sometimes unless you're a CS major (then you won't have much/any work). The SFF will be easy enough to take home during christmas/summer/spring.
 

MillionaireNextDoor

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A tablet pc would make the most sense since it's so compact, you can take notes by writing directly on the screen, and it will make you very popular. And these days, students bring their computers with them just about anywhere, from the dorm/apartment, to the classrooms, to the library. Just make sure to use a notebook lock everywhere you go, including your dorm/apartment.
 

HomeAppraiser

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My college computer was a Commodore 64 with a 19" color tv :)

Used the college computer lab mostly, which started with IBM XT's and got up to 386's by the time I graduated!

My how times have changed.
 

CellarDoor

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I would build a PC and get a PDA with it. I'm perfectly happy taking notes on my PDA. If it's a math class or anything where more than just writing is required, I would just do it in a notebook. You can get along fine without a pda or a laptop too of course. I'd definitely build a pc.