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Colin Powell will skip GOP convention

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HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: Crimson
You are making assumptions.. Since when has Powell given you the right to speak for him? Quit stating things as 'fact' without any proof. Until Powell comes out and says otherwise, you are just assuming he has major disagreements with Bush and the rest of his administration. If he has them, and doesn't say them, then either his disagreements aren't that strong, or he is a man of no character. Either way I love how you guys turn on people you previously had hardons for when they don't do what you thought they were going to do.

There are several low-level indications that Powell sees himself as being in bad company. If you aren't aware of these tidbits that's your problem. I'm not going to disbelieve what I've heard out of some sense of fairness towards Bush supporters.
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
I had a lot of respect for him as well, but his UN speech decreased that respect by more than a bit. It helps that he was right about Iraq all along and ended up controlling a fair amount of the few good things that have happened lately.
It's too bad this Bush administration is putting an end to Powell's "American Journey". I'm sure he'll be finished with politics for sure now.
Agreed. Unless Powell is willing to go public with his supposed misgivings about this adventure he?ll be tarred with it forever. That would require the sort of honesty that I?ve come to see as impossible in our political system though.
If he's done with politics, though, as seems to be the case, he should resign right now and make a long speech detailing all the crap the neocons have used to dissuade Bush from acting out of thought.

Someone with stature should say something, and soon. I've seen some troubling indications that the bumbling Bushies are gearing up to pull an "Operation: Iranian Freedom".
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
I had a lot of respect for him as well, but his UN speech decreased that respect by more than a bit. It helps that he was right about Iraq all along and ended up controlling a fair amount of the few good things that have happened lately.
It's too bad this Bush administration is putting an end to Powell's "American Journey". I'm sure he'll be finished with politics for sure now.
Agreed. Unless Powell is willing to go public with his supposed misgivings about this adventure he?ll be tarred with it forever. That would require the sort of honesty that I?ve come to see as impossible in our political system though.
If he's done with politics, though, as seems to be the case, he should resign right now and make a long speech detailing all the crap the neocons have used to dissuade Bush from acting out of thought.

You are making assumptions.. Since when has Powell given you the right to speak for him? Quit stating things as 'fact' without any proof. Until Powell comes out and says otherwise, you are just assuming he has major disagreements with Bush and the rest of his administration. If he has them, and doesn't say them, then either his disagreements aren't that strong, or he is a man of no character. Either way I love how you guys turn on people you previously had hardons for when they don't do what you thought they were going to do.

Yeah, I like how people love to drool over Powell and McCain but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain. The only think that's changed is that the left thought they had something to use against Bush because of them. Now that they(the left) has found out that they(the left) assumed wrongly they quickly shy away and feign indignation.
Both this and the McCain "respect" thread are quite comical.

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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This is on the front page of the News now. This reminds me of Ceasar, E Tu Brute :D :thumbsup:

Won't be long before we see many of the cowards that jumped from Democrat to Republican clamoring to jump back.
 

halik

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hmm,
maybe hes trying to distance himself from the administration?He's not severly unpopular on either side of the spectrum, it would makse sense to do that now. I have a lot of respect for the guy and i really dont think his career is done.
 

fjord

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I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Ridge, etc. at the convention either.

Best to hide as many liabilities behind closed doors as possible. Too bad they can't hide Bush or Cheney.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: EXman
That's too bad I like him more of the conservative that I like. not perfect but Boy I believe he could win 2008 in a walk as Black voters be out en mass crossing over to vote for him. Be nice since Hillary will be a tough cookie in '08.

Blacks don't vote skin color. They vote on election hype and wedge issues, mostly.

Oh, and white guys from Alabama don't?!?
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: EXman
That's too bad I like him more of the conservative that I like. not perfect but Boy I believe he could win 2008 in a walk as Black voters be out en mass crossing over to vote for him. Be nice since Hillary will be a tough cookie in '08.

Blacks don't vote skin color. They vote on election hype and wedge issues, mostly.

Oh, and white guys from Alabama don't?!?

I have no idea how white's in Alabama vote. But I do know that in whites vote the entire spectrum and blacks largely don't.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: EXman
That's too bad I like him more of the conservative that I like. not perfect but Boy I believe he could win 2008 in a walk as Black voters be out en mass crossing over to vote for him. Be nice since Hillary will be a tough cookie in '08.

Blacks don't vote skin color. They vote on election hype and wedge issues, mostly.

Oh, and white guys from Alabama don't?!?

I have no idea how white's in Alabama vote. But I do know that in whites vote the entire spectrum and blacks largely don't.
And you know this how?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
...but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain.

CkG

Am I the only one scratching his head over this statement?
Aren't you, by saying the second sentence, stating that you know how they feel, CAD?
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
...but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain.

CkG

Am I the only one scratching his head over this statement?
Aren't you, by saying the second sentence, stating that you know how they feel, CAD?

:roll: No, "feel" isn't the same as who they are. Powell and McCain have shown they are committed to this Administration and all there is from the left is wild speculation and innuendo as to their "real feelings".

Next nitpick attempt....

CkG
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
...but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain.

CkG

Am I the only one scratching his head over this statement?
Aren't you, by saying the second sentence, stating that you know how they feel, CAD?

:roll: No, "feel" isn't the same as who they are. Powell and McCain have shown they are committed to this Administration and all there is from the left is wild speculation and innuendo as to their "real feelings".

Next nitpick attempt....

CkG


Ok, just checking. It seemed to me that saying something like "...is the same as he was before" was saying that you somehow knew what he 'felt'. Meh - guess I was wrong.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
...but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain.

CkG

Am I the only one scratching his head over this statement?
Aren't you, by saying the second sentence, stating that you know how they feel, CAD?

:roll: No, "feel" isn't the same as who they are. Powell and McCain have shown they are committed to this Administration and all there is from the left is wild speculation and innuendo as to their "real feelings".

Next nitpick attempt....

CkG
I love it! More amiguity from the King of ambiguity! You're a special person, CkG.

BTW, what makes you think Powell is committed to this administration? Nothing shows that he is.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
...but yet now want to dismiss them because they think they know how they feel. Powell is the same as he was before and same with McCain.

CkG

Am I the only one scratching his head over this statement?
Aren't you, by saying the second sentence, stating that you know how they feel, CAD?

:roll: No, "feel" isn't the same as who they are. Powell and McCain have shown they are committed to this Administration and all there is from the left is wild speculation and innuendo as to their "real feelings".

Next nitpick attempt....

CkG
I love it! More amiguity from the King of ambiguity! You're a special person, CkG.

BTW, what makes you think Powell is committed to this administration? Nothing shows that he is.

Buahahaha -that accusation coming from mr."I'm a Republican but I support the left"

Ooops - "Powell defends war in Iraq as 'right thing to do'"
But yeah, I'll believe your wildeyed speculation and innuendo...:roll:

CkG