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phillyman36

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Aikouka said:
That Formula board is quite nice. They've fixed a lot of the problems since my old Maximus VI Formula board, but I'll probably go with the Hero instead. The three big things I'm looking for are a considerable number of USB ports (8+), no Killer networking, and 2+ M.2 slots.

Hm, looking at it closer, I don't think the Hero has two M.2 slots or even enough USB ports. I might have to go with the Formula after all. Although, I did watch a video that says the Maximus X Code is pretty much the Formula without the extra junk. So, maybe I'll take a look at that one. Although, I do like that the ASRock Fatal1ty board has 10G Ethernet, but I'm sure that board will be pricey enough that I could just buy an expansion card (~$200) for the difference. :p
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The Hero(Wifi) has 2 M.2 slots one is covered by the Asus M.2 heatsink. Also the Hero has 8 usb port on the back
2 USB 2.0
4 USB 3.0
1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type A
1 USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type C

The 2 USB 2.0 are also used for the bios flashback and Keybot II
 
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MarkPost said:
multicore enhancements? what we have there is just a motheboard ocing a cpu (8700k, running 400mhz over Intel all core specs) vs. cpus (the rest) running at their default specs.
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Yes multicore enhancement. The motherboard automatically uses the singlethread ratio for multicore.

AORUS motherboards automatically set all kernels at maximum frequency, 8600K running at 4300MHz in our tests, while the 8700K runs at 4700MHz .
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VirtualLarry said:
That sounds ideal for my HTPC CFL build I'm thinking about. (Not "planning", because I don't know when I'll finally have spare money again.)

Is there going to be a "T" or "S" version of the i3-8100 or i3-8400 at release? I'm thinking, I might actually go with a low-power CPU. They weren't common (I think that they were "Tray only"?), but on Skylake's release, they had a number of similarly-numbered SKUs, that were low-power variants. Harder to find though, don't think Newegg carried many or even any of them.
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There is a possibility that AMD will bring 35W TDP CPUs into their lineup.

AMD is pricing their products at performance levels, not "brand levels". 65W six core, has lower price than 95W Six core, and similar situation we would get with 35W six core: lower price than 65W version.

If I remember correctly engineering samples of quad core/eight thread CPUs made on 14 nm process have had 3.0/3.3 GHz, and this clocks would be achievable even for 8 core CPU in this thermal envelope. So on 12LP process we can get barely higher clocks. If the 35W TDP CPU, with 6 cores/12T will have 3.2/3.5 GHz core clocks, or even 3.3/3.6 and price lower than 1600 - then unfortunately for Intel, I will have to consider this option, very much. Because Im pretty sure, that at this TDP, 6C/6T from Intel will have similar core clocks in Turbo state, but potentially higher price.
 
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mikk said:
Yes multicore enhancement. The motherboard automatically uses the singlethread ratio for multicore.
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This is a motherboard OC feature, my 2012 ASUS Maximus V Gene does the same thing to my Core i7 3770K (All-core Turbo to 3.7GHz). This is a mild OC not stock CPU clocks.
 
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AtenRa said:
This is a motherboard OC feature, my 2012 ASUS Maximus V Gene does the same thing to my Core i7 3770K (All-core Turbo to 3.7GHz). This is a mild OC not stock CPU clocks.
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I wonder if this feature is available on the non K chips like the i5 8400 and i7 8700? If so, it will make these chips even better value because even though technically they can't be overclocked, if the motherboard can override the turbo ratios and lock it at the max 1C turbo value, you are essentially getting a 10 - 15% overclock out of the box!
 
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epsilon84 said:
I wonder if this feature is available on the non K chips like the i5 8400 and i7 8700? If so, it will make these chips even better value because even though technically they can't be overclocked, if the motherboard can override the turbo ratios and lock it at the max 1C turbo value, you are essentially getting a 10 - 15% overclock out of the box!
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Doubtful since the multiplier is locked and instead you have to rely on BCLK OC'ing, if memory serves me right.
 
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phillyman36 said:
Edited the post you can check z370 on the side

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Republic-of-Gamers-Products/

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-X-HERO-WI-FI-AC/

Here ya go TheF34RChannel
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Thanks mate! Today of all days I have shifted my attention from the Hero to the Maximus X Code (which is absent from the Asus website, frustratingly, and it's my suspicion it may not release 5 October but rather down the line and how can I wait for that...? I'll ask Tom Logan for a hint) - in the Z270 line-up the price difference between the Hero and Code is 55 Euro; well worth the difference.

Code is on the far right:

ROG%20Z370_banner_2000x720.jpg
 
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PeterScott said:
Yet more evidence that 5GHz will be an easy to achieve overclock. They just hit the the automatic 5GHz setting in the MB and got it.

BUT, you seem to need monstrous cooling. They hit 92C with a liquid cooler.
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I reckon that's the auto volts fault. It's possible with lower voltages and thus lower temps. It's reports like this that give bad rep.
 
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TheF34RChannel said:
Thanks mate! Today of all days I have shifted my attention from the Hero to the Maximus X Code (which is absent from the Asus website, frustratingly, and it's my suspicion it may not release 5 October but rather down the line and how can I wait for that...? I'll ask Tom Logan for a hint) - in the Z270 line-up the price difference between the Hero and Code is 55 Euro; well worth the difference.

Code is on the far right:

ROG%20Z370_banner_2000x720.jpg
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Curious why the Code over the Hero?
 
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PeterScott said:
Yet more evidence that 5GHz will be an easy to achieve overclock. They just hit the the automatic 5GHz setting in the MB and got it.

BUT, you seem to need monstrous cooling. They hit 92C with a liquid cooler.
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Seems like they were able to get the 8600k to 5.3GHz
 
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epsilon84 said:
I guess NDAs don't apply in Romania!
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Intel messed up, both websites from Romania who published these early reviews were able to buy the products without signing any NDA. This might have to do with Intel's departure from Romania, they had no contacts here to handle the launch apparently.
 
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mikk said:
At stock frequency power consumption of 8700k is only 6% higher than the 7700k but the temps are 3 °C lower. Not bad.
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Nice numbers indeed.

The reviewer also said something people kinda already figured out from benchmark scores: with their current early BIOS turbo is not working as intended. They were able to either have all cores @ 4.3 or @ 4.7. The turbo bins were not sensitive to number of cores under load.
 
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coercitiv said:
Nice numbers indeed.

The reviewer also said something people kinda already figured out from benchmark scores: with their current early BIOS turbo is not working as intended. They were able to either have all cores @ 4.3 or @ 4.7. The turbo bins were not sensitive to number of cores under load.
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I'm sure Asus is able to support the Turbo bins as it should because Intel used Asus in their official testbed and it works as it should based on the Cinebench R15 ST and MT score.
 
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