Coffeelake thread, benchmarks, reviews, input, everything.

[MTDEW]

Just downloaded and ran, got 1306.

I know all replies you get are just gonna be opinions, so here is mine....

If I had the rig in your sig, I wouldn't even bother reading this thread!

 

[PhonakV30]

Just downloaded and ran, got 1306.

I thought around 1400~1500 ! mine at 4050@1.46 volt = 1325 while 8700K at 5Ghz gets 1600~1650.So i think it's worth to upgrade.how about Z390 ? Does it support 8700K ?

 

[PeterScott]

I know all replies you get are just gonna be opinions, so here is mine....

If I had the rig in your sig, I wouldn't even bother reading this thread!

Right?

My Intel Q9400 @3.2GHz gives me 330 cb.

I am going to get a wicked performance boost when I upgrade.

 

[eddman]

Right?

My Intel Q9400 @3.2GHz gives me 330 cb.

I am going to get a wicked performance boost when I upgrade.

Pfft, amateur. /s

Actually, joking aside, it's still quite good for something from early 2008. A 7600K does about 683 and 184. That's not even twice the score after almost 9 years.

How many fold did GPUs increase in performance in that time period?

 

[TheGiant]

Pfft, amateur. /s

Actually, joking aside, it's still quite good for something from early 2008. A 7600K does 683 and 184. That's not even twice the score after almost 9 years.

How many fold did GPUs increase in performance in that time period?

Well maybe it doesn't get as high CB score, but I got 3-5x min fps in games. Even old ones like dragon age origins.
Witcher 3 the same.

 

[mikk]

That s about it but Intel is not that innocent...

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/970-17/attention-aux-overclockings-automatiques.html

Asus overclock both the core and the L3 cache, HFR made some nice graphs :

Do we know the default frequency of the Uncore for Coffeelake? There is nothing in the datasheet as far as I can see.

 

[CatMerc]

Good lord I'm not satisfied with my 6600K, how do people here live with Core 2 Quads?

 

[PeterScott]

Pfft, amateur. /s

Actually, joking aside, it's still quite good for something from early 2008. A 7600K does about 683 and 184. That's not even twice the score after almost 9 years.

How many fold did GPUs increase in performance in that time period?

Having something more powerful than mine, is pretty much the norm these days.

Is this your main PC? Because this is my only home PC that has been a daily gaming/media/work machine for almost 10 years. I have had computers since the early 1980's and never had one serve me this long.

I see lots of people complain about the slow pace of CPU improvements, but I love it, as it means you can go MUCH longer before you need to upgrade.

 

[RichUK]

Do we know the default frequency of the Uncore for Coffeelake? There is nothing in the datasheet as far as I can see.

4.4ghz for 8700k

 

[eddman]

Well maybe it doesn't get as high CB score, but I got 3-5x min fps in games. Even old ones like dragon age origins.
Witcher 3 the same.

No doubt. Not only games are better optimized for latest CPUs, 8 GB of DDR2 @ 872 would severely impact the framerate.

EDIT: This is what I get in Shadow of Mordor's built-in benchmark, at 1080 with everything at ultra:

The gameplay is very smooth and no stutters that I can see. Granted, this is just one game, but still impressive, IMO.

Is this your main PC? Because this is my only home PC that has been a daily gaming/media/work machine for almost 10 years. I have had computers since the early 1980's and never had one serve me this long.

I see lots of people complain about the slow pace of CPU improvements, but I love it, as it means you can go MUCH longer before you need to upgrade.

Yes, it is. It's quite fascinating that something so old is still able to hold its own and run the latest OS and software, and even most games, relatively ok. I don't have any complaints, considering. It even supports USB 3.0 add-on cards and latest gen GPUs!!! The only thing I'm missing is an SSD, and even that should work.

I don't think a CPU/MB from 1991 would had been of much use in 2000.

I, too, am sort of glad that I could use my PC for so long, thanks to not much progress.

 

[tamz_msc]

Do we know the default frequency of the Uncore for Coffeelake? There is nothing in the datasheet as far as I can see.

Should not come as a surprise since "Intel will no longer provide this information". Gigabyte boards set it at base frequency.

4.4ghz for 8700k

Nope. Depends on the motherboard.

 

[RichUK]

Should not come as a surprise since "Intel will no longer provide this information". Gigabyte boards set it at base frequency.

Nope. Depends on the motherboard.

That's a bit odd. I'm on the Asus Hero.

 

[tamz_msc]

That's a bit odd. I'm on the Asus Hero.

Yes Asus sets it at 4.4GHz on the Hero, probably their other top boards too.

 

[PeterScott]

Good lord I'm not satisfied with my 6600K, how do people here live with Core 2 Quads?

I am trying to be more Zen in my middle age.

A >3GHz C2Q is hardly painful to use. My GPU (8800GT) holds me back more than my CPU on gaming. Since I hate DRM I get all my games from GOG in recent years, so I tend to game years off the leading edge without issues.

I really only find it slow when doing x264 encoding, and I just queue that overnight.

Really I expect the biggest thing I will notice when I upgrade is going from Sata-II SSD, to m.2 NVME.

 

[Abwx]

Do we know the default frequency of the Uncore for Coffeelake? There is nothing in the datasheet as far as I can see.

The only official info is the base and turbo frequency on one core, multicore and L3 clocks are not communicated, that s the answer HFR got after asking Intel about the issue, apparently MBs manufacturers have some freedom left for their "stocks" settings since those frequencies are configured in the bios.

 

[TheLycan]

I put together the benchmarks made for 1440p resolution. Seems that 1080ti is not quite up for the test

https://youtu.be/G3st5QcU72c

I have the results for 1080p also (they are a lot more), so if you like please hit like or share, and I will find some time to put on charts for 1080p as well.

 

[mikk]

The only official info is the base and turbo frequency on one core, multicore and L3 clocks are not communicated, that s the answer HFR got after asking Intel about the issue, apparently MBs manufacturers have some freedom left for their "stocks" settings since those frequencies are configured in the bios.

That's the question. Maybe it isn't strict unlike the core frequency.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Do we know the default frequency of the Uncore for Coffeelake? There is nothing in the datasheet as far as I can see.

For Intel it's always: Ring frequency equals highest all core turbo clock. (AFAIK). See:

4.4ghz for 8700k

 

[Arachnotronic]

For Intel it's always: Ring frequency equals highest all core turbo clock. (AFAIK). See:

That was true for both SKL and KBL, so I don't see why it wouldn't be true for CFL.

 

[mikk]

For Intel it's always: Ring frequency equals highest all core turbo clock. (AFAIK). See:

It's slightly below all core Turbo I think. On a i7-7700k it runs with 4.2 Ghz or on a i7-7700 with 3.9 Ghz. Gigabyte is the only OEM that sets the Uncore same as the base on Kabylake on this SKU.

http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_s...c2ffcfe981bc8caad2efdff99cf9c4f4d2a19cac&l=en

Even on a cheap ECS H110H4-M19. Such a combo doesn't allow OC, so it's doubtful what Gigabyte is doing. Same pattern with Coffeelake, only Gigabyte doesn't go above base for the uncore. But maybe there is some uncore freedom for the OEMs.

 

[moonbogg]

I am considering getting a 8700k and Z370 motherboard, as I don't really need the extra PCIE lanes so much from the 5930k anymore. My question is, how much more performance would I get out of a 8700k, vs a 5930k @4.5 GHz? I would be ocing the 8700k as well, same cooler likely. Worth it perhaps?

Also, what motherboards look good, and where to get a 8700k? :/

What will you be doing with it? In what area are you wondering about performance, perhaps gaming? What res?
I want an 8700K but I realize its for emotional reasons. I just want one. The truth is I quite literally wouldn't see a difference because of my high resolution and 100hz gsync limit. Maybe your situation is different. So what's your situation?
You have plenty of time to think about it anyway. These chips will be out of stock for weeks at a minimum it seems.

 

[elhefegaming]

8700k@5ghz on air 76ºc

on another note

Jonathan D.: We don't have an ETA on the item but it does look like there are at least 100 back-orders ahead of you in the queue

 

[SangamonTaylor]

EVGA announced their Z370 boards over the weekend. Unsure if anyone here likes EVGA...

 

[krumme]

What will you be doing with it? In what area are you wondering about performance, perhaps gaming? What res?
I want an 8700K but I realize its for emotional reasons. I just want one. The truth is I quite literally wouldn't see a difference because of my high resolution and 100hz gsync limit. Maybe your situation is different. So what's your situation?
You have plenty of time to think about it anyway. These chips will be out of stock for weeks at a minimum it seems.

I have it the same way just going 4k at 60Hz. Gaa. Even running my 1700 at stock now because it keeps min in bf1 where i need it. If i had 144 i would change tomorrow or whenever this processor is available.
Could use a oled but this dell thing never came to eu or what? I need oled 27 inch 4k. With perfect skintones.

 

[krumme]

EVGA announced their Z370 boards over the weekend. Unsure if anyone here likes EVGA...

As long as there is no plastic over the vram and the capacitors is not colored like a bag of childrens mixed candy and you dont get blinded by led i am happy.
Even noticed asrock topped that recipy off with audio opamps from the mid eighties. I cant even fathom what comes next.