Queasy
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Wait, I was under the impression that this patch would fix the issues with parties staying together, and I don't see that mentioned anywhere. WTF.
I think of "host" as being the game's server, which is different from "party leader" who just controls what game the party goes to and isnt necessarily the host.
R Nilla
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Are you referring to the fact that if the party leader backs out, the other members don't follow? I am under the impression that is by design, although I'd prefer it if the party would stick together like Halo.
Also, XBL needs to freakin' introduce group chat. I'm tired of having to either remain silent or deal with XBL turds.
Patch is in - everyone is complaining about the ACOGs & sniper updates already. Heaven forbid a sniper kill someone with an M16 at range.
P.S. AK > M16
P.S. AK > M16
R Nilla
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Does this make it so non-friends can't hear me or I can't hear them, or both?
EDIT: Looks like both. I'll have to try this next time I'm on with my friends. I'd still like to be able to setup private chats, especially because sometimes I do want to communicate with other players, but I suppose this method isn't any less convenient.
Thanks Queasy.
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Lifer
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It would be nice if it were possible to do something like a private chat, which is NOT dependent on the game, but have multiple people in the chat. It's particularly difficult to keep a party together in CoD 4 (hopefully they fixed that), and being able to chat with people when you're not in the same lobby or game would help a lot with that.
Queasy
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Yep. That's been a common complaint since the 360 was released. You can do a private chat with up to four individuals but you can't all chat together at the same time.
Maybe in a future Spring/Fall Update. Hey, they brought Divx/Xvid support so this is a possibility....right? right?
purbeast0
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. That's been a common complaint since the 360 was released. You can do a private chat with up to four individuals but you can't all chat together at the same time.
Maybe in a future Spring/Fall Update. Hey, they brought Divx/Xvid support so this is a possibility....right? right?
honestly i think the reason for no group chat is that it would be easy to cheat with it.
that is really the only valid reason i can see them not doing this feature. you could easily cheat if you have people on the other teams trying to tell you stuff about the other team, or if you are in a game and are dead but you can see your friends camera angle from third person but you are still talking to them (like in gears of war you cant talk to live people once you are dead).
Queasy
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. That's been a common complaint since the 360 was released. You can do a private chat with up to four individuals but you can't all chat together at the same time.
Maybe in a future Spring/Fall Update. Hey, they brought Divx/Xvid support so this is a possibility....right? right?
honestly i think the reason for no group chat is that it would be easy to cheat with it.
that is really the only valid reason i can see them not doing this feature. you could easily cheat if you have people on the other teams trying to tell you stuff about the other team, or if you are in a game and are dead but you can see your friends camera angle from third person but you are still talking to them (like in gears of war you cant talk to live people once you are dead).
Well, maybe enable it in the Dash but disable it once you get in-game.
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. That's been a common complaint since the 360 was released. You can do a private chat with up to four individuals but you can't all chat together at the same time.
Maybe in a future Spring/Fall Update. Hey, they brought Divx/Xvid support so this is a possibility....right? right?
honestly i think the reason for no group chat is that it would be easy to cheat with it.
that is really the only valid reason i can see them not doing this feature. you could easily cheat if you have people on the other teams trying to tell you stuff about the other team, or if you are in a game and are dead but you can see your friends camera angle from third person but you are still talking to them (like in gears of war you cant talk to live people once you are dead).
Is that any different from a two person private chat though? When I play Halo 3 with one friend, we always do a private chat, and we sometimes end up on opposite teams in social because of the size of other people's parties. You generally can't control who your opponents are.
And while it's nice to be able to keep 4 private chats going at a time, they need to speed up the damned sidebar if that feature is ever going to be useful.
purbeast0
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Queasy
Yep. That's been a common complaint since the 360 was released. You can do a private chat with up to four individuals but you can't all chat together at the same time.
Maybe in a future Spring/Fall Update. Hey, they brought Divx/Xvid support so this is a possibility....right? right?
honestly i think the reason for no group chat is that it would be easy to cheat with it.
that is really the only valid reason i can see them not doing this feature. you could easily cheat if you have people on the other teams trying to tell you stuff about the other team, or if you are in a game and are dead but you can see your friends camera angle from third person but you are still talking to them (like in gears of war you cant talk to live people once you are dead).
Is that any different from a two person private chat though? When I play Halo 3 with one friend, we always do a private chat, and we sometimes end up on opposite teams in social because of the size of other people's parties. You generally can't control who your opponents are.
And while it's nice to be able to keep 4 private chats going at a time, they need to speed up the damned sidebar if that feature is ever going to be useful.
yea i've done it too on gears of war, and used it to somewhat "cheat" if you wanna call it that. it's unfair with 2 people but doing it with 4 people would make it even more unfair.
i dunno im just trying to think of an actual reason why this isn't implemented yet.
R Nilla
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That's what I'm wondering. I was hoping to see private group chat in the last major update, but no dice. I can't imagine it would be hard to do, so there must be some reason MS doesn't want to do it. Maybe they just don't care and we need to complain more, but given that it still isn't available I doubt we'll see it.
I would even settle for just 3-4 person private chats. It doesn't have to be huge.
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Lifer
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You know, one of the reasons I use private chat in Halo 3 is because they inexplicably set the limit on open team chat in games at 4 players on a team, even though there are 5 players per team in social team slayer. WTF bungie?! It's impossible to hit the up button on the D-pad to talk while doing anything meaningful in a game. CoD 4 has 6 on a team in a regular game, and the chat doesn't get overwhelming (it's usually either darn near dead silent, or you have two or three friends talking about stupid non-game-related crap). Even with 9 players on a team I don't think you have to hit a button to chat in CoD 4. Push to talk = worst "feature" ever.
I played just a few games. Not once did I get booted yet, but I also sat in a game lobby for about 5 mins with 3 other people waiting for 2 more people to join. That is something I have never had to do before, but it's also a Friday night.
Wuzup101
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I've always liked sniping, just not in CoD4. It would be "hit and miss" (notice the pun). Some days the hit detection would work alright, some days I would shoot, nothing would happen, shoot, nothing, shoot, get killed by target with m16 from across the map. I'm not talking about moving targets... I'm talking about stationary targets. I gave up sniping because literally half of the time I would have my cross hairs dead center of mass and it wouldn't even register as a hit. After a miss or two, the guy you are shooting at can just aim in on your flash (I do it all the time).
I played almost exclusively with snipers today (and my new found love - the USP!). Hit detection is greatly improved. You hit what you are aiming at when you pull the trigger, which is, in the end, the goal (I think). I played for about 6 hours today (had to blow off some steam from an exam), and used everything but the starting bolt action rifle that they give you (sniper wise). Everything was improved. I pretty much am sticking with the M21 as my go to, as I like to be able to get a follow up shot or two especially as targets come closer (not needed at full range as a head/chest shot is a 1 hit kill). I also played a bit with the ACOG on the Barrett, G3, M60, and M4. The M4 definitely seems a bit stronger, and fits well with the ACOG now (as the ACOG works). The G3 felt solid (as it always did with a RDS), and it was plenty accurate with the ACOG. I must be too used to the grip on the M60, because after using it a few times I just went back to the R700. I was just shooting single shots and bursts of 2-3 max and they weren't all that accurate w/ the ACOG. The Barrett was a fun experience. I only ever tried the ACOG on it a few times after I first unlocked it quite a while ago. First round I went 49-13 on Bog. Fucking thing is like a G3 that rips people apart! I think I found my new mid-long range assault rifle
I'm always aiming center of mass, which basically means a 1 shot kill (with stopping power). It was just mowing people down as they ran through my shooting lanes.I was also very please with the host changes. As others have mentioned, if a host ends the game, you do all get kicked back to the loby (though I rarely experience this anyway). However, the party does stay together and such, which is really nice. It was a lot less painful today!
Definitely try out the new hit detection if you like sniping. IMHO, it's like playing a whole new game from behind that scope!
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