Coakley-Brown Senate Race in Mass on Jan. 19 - Dems could 60 seat Majority !

[Carmen813]

"demented fantasies"
"morons"
"twits"
"damn fools"
Sigh...

Yes twits. People were arguing that Obama's image was toxic in Massachusetts. I pointed out that he enjoyed near 60% approval ratings in MA.

Republican exit polls pegged Obama's approval rating among voters on election day at 55%. Rasmussen polling had it at 53%. I believe that qualifies as "near 60%."

Ergo, I stand by what I said. Just as anyone who ignores the above numbers continues to be a "twit."

 

[Leon]

Stop the hate fellas, let's concentrate on more important stuff

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/scott-brown-daughter-biki_n_430291.html

After announcing that his daughters were "available" during Tuesday night's victory speech, an Animal New York tipster unearthed this Massachusetts' newest senator posing with his shell bikini-clad girls.

 

[Pneumothorax]

Stop the hate fellas, let's concentrate on more important stuff

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/scott-brown-daughter-biki_n_430291.html

After announcing that his daughters were "available" during Tuesday night's victory speech, an Animal New York tipster unearthed this Massachusetts' newest senator posing with his shell bikini-clad girls.

Now THAT's HOPE and CHANGE! lol

 

[spidey07]

Stop the hate fellas, let's concentrate on more important stuff

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/scott-brown-daughter-biki_n_430291.html

After announcing that his daughters were "available" during Tuesday night's victory speech, an Animal New York tipster unearthed this Massachusetts' newest senator posing with his shell bikini-clad girls.

Which one is available? I'll take the one on the right please.

 

[lupi]

So, can someone remind us how the NJ/VA election results didn't matter and would have no impact on the 2010 elections.

 

[PokerGuy]

So, can someone remind us how the NJ/VA election results didn't matter and would have no impact on the 2010 elections.

Clearly, those election were local issues, they had nothing to do with the sentiment regarding the national picture and drive to socialism. They were simply isolated incidents. /sarcasm

Even after the smacking in MA, the dems are still running around convincing themselves that it was just a problem with Coakley, that it had nothing to do with the direction of this administration. Epic fail indeed.

 

[BeauJangles]

Clearly, those election were local issues, they had nothing to do with the sentiment regarding the national picture and drive to socialism. They were simply isolated incidents. /sarcasm

Even after the smacking in MA, the dems are still running around convincing themselves that it was just a problem with Coakley, that it had nothing to do with the direction of this administration. Epic fail indeed.

Where are you from? How much did you actually follow this election? I'm sick and tired of know-it-alls trying to contextualize an election that they didn't even know about until about ten days ago.

And, no, I didn't vote for Coakley.

 

[Fern]

1.) I have been thinking about this for a few days since, since it became clear that Brown would win. My conclusion is that scrapping the bill and trying to get a "bi-partisan" bill is the least bad option. Ramming it through would have very dire political consequences. Reconciliation will not work. Passing the Senate version as is it will not happen.

2.) So let's start over and see if the repubs can agree with a healthbill that has even a single item in it that isn't part of their agenda. They have their own proposal which contains exactly zero of the several hundred provisions in the dems bill, not even the pre-existing conditions or recission reform. Let's have lots of time consuming hearings and debates, and let the people see if the repubs really do want healthcare reform.

3.) Perhaps at the end of the process we will end up with a small, compromize bill that has some insurance reform in it to end some abuses, doesn't cover anyone not already covered, and doesn't control costs. If that is what the American people want at this stage, that is exactly what they should get. And it will be politically best for the dems right now to just give it to them. They can get credit for being bi-partisan, and most importantly, they can get credit for doing nothing of any substance about healthcare reform. It's a win-win.

- wolf

I agree completely with your remarks in paragraph #1.

Re: #2. Julian Epstein, who I usually disagree with, was on TV some time ago outlining how the Dem could get some Repubs on board. He sounded pretty reasonable, I recommend the Dems revisit his advice. He suggested things like Dems giving them tort reform etc to get some repubs onboard. Yeah, I'd like to see public hearings. Even if people can't donate the time to watch them all, certainly there will be articles available we can read on the main points.

Re: #3. If they do compromise, I think they need to cover more more people and they definately need to get some cost-cutting measures in there. Yeah, insurance reform is essential too. But I think to get some Repubs onboard they'll have to scale the bill back some to reduce the costs.

A number of posters here have remarked that het Repub have no interest whatsoever in any kind of HC reform. They cite their lack of success, or even efforts at it in the past. But that was then, and this is now; I've never seen HC reform so prominent in the public before. Other than Watergate, I don't believe I've seen the American public so engaged in politics; might be we're all finally ready for a real national debate on it.

Fern

 

[Carmen813]

Which one is available? I'll take the one on the right please.

Want me to give you her campus email address / dorm room? It's on my school's website

 

[Vic]

<wingnut logic>The DJIA is down over 300 points since Brown won, this cannot be a coincidence!</wingnut logic>

 

[spidey07]

<wingnut logic>The DJIA is down over 300 points since Brown won, this cannot be a coincidence!</wingnut logic>

That's based on Obama's purposeful and willful destruction of our economy via kill the banks and you know that.

 

[Vic]

That's based on Obama's purposeful and willful destruction of our economy via kill the banks and you know that.

Strangely, the DJIA is up roughly 2400 points in the single year since Obama took office. And major banking stocks, like BAC and WFC, are up roughly 300&#37;.

So what I do know, spidey, is that you're about the last person I know that I would ever turn to for economic or political advice. These days, I lump you in with McOwen and Craig, aka rabid partisan nutcases.

 

[Patranus]

<wingnut logic>The DJIA is down over 300 points since Brown won, this cannot be a coincidence!</wingnut logic>

The DOW was up during/after the election. If you look at what was up, it was primarily the health care sector stocks.

The DOW was down the next day because the US wants to up its debt limit and China stated it would clamp down on lending.

Today, there were more jobs lost.

Now, if you look at the sectors that are up this year, they are mainly the financials.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Where are you from? How much did you actually follow this election? I'm sick and tired of know-it-alls trying to contextualize an election that they didn't even know about until about ten days ago.

And, no, I didn't vote for Coakley.

I know that Coakley called Shilling a Yankee fan, I also know that she didn't travel around and mingle with the people even 1/4 as much as Brown did. I know that shaking hands with someone who might be in a position to vote for something that affects you directly and then seeing the opponent call one of the great athletes that played many years for a local sports team, a fan of your most heated rivals could persuade you that someone is an idiot and someone else actually cares.

 

[Patranus]

I know that Coakley called Shilling a Yankee fan, I also know that she didn't travel around and mingle with the people even 1/4 as much as Brown did. I know that shaking hands with someone who might be in a position to vote for something that affects you directly and then seeing the opponent call one of the great athletes that played many years for a local sports team, a fan of your most heated rivals could persuade you that someone is an idiot and someone else actually cares.

I know she had a 25 point lead with a month to go and she lost by 31.

 

[PJABBER]

<wingnut logic>The DJIA is down over 300 points since Brown won, this cannot be a coincidence!</wingnut logic>

Buy on the rumor, sell on the fact.

Plus you had China tightening and raising interest rates, banking curbs proposed by President Barack Obama that will dent the U.S. recovery and alter Wall Street’s role in private equity, where banks and investors commit money to buy companies, real estate and other assets. Business stuff like that.

Nothing to see, move along... :sneaky:

 

[Vic]

Apparently, my sarcasm is too subtle for these forums.

 

[Red Dawn]

I know that Coakley called Shilling a Yankee fan, I also know that she didn't travel around and mingle with the people even 1/4 as much as Brown did. I know that shaking hands with someone who might be in a position to vote for something that affects you directly and then seeing the opponent call one of the great athletes that played many years for a local sports team, a fan of your most heated rivals could persuade you that someone is an idiot and someone else actually cares.

The Shilling comment didn't mean squat, he's thought of around here as a great pitcher and even a greater loudmouthed asshole. Most of his teammates thought he was an asshole. Coakely lost because the people of MA aren't buying into the crap Healthcare Bill, plain and simple. They experienced the fucked up States Healtcare Bill that already in place (you know, the one Brown supported) and wanted nothing to do with the National One the way it was written

 

[Red Dawn]

The next one to go down in defeat in the Bay State is the Governor. Too bad it'll be a Republican that does it as we'll end up just as fucked.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The next one to go down in defeat in the Bay State is the Governor. Too bad it'll be a Republican that does it as we'll end up just as fucked.

Hate to break it to you Red, the Dems were just as bad. Like NY, it doesn't matter who is in office, we are both screwed because that's the nature of our state politics.

 

[Red Dawn]

Hate to break it to you Red, the Dems were just as bad. Like NY, it doesn't matter who is in office, we are both screwed because that's the nature of our state politics.

I prefer the Dems brand of assholishness over the Republicans. But you are right, neither party is the answer.

 

[Robor]

I prefer the Dems brand of assholishness over the Republicans. But you are right, neither party is the answer.

As always, the lesser of two evils. :\

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

As always, the lesser of two evils. :\

Let me guess, you don't live in NY state, right?

I have no love for the Reps, and they are especially useless in Albany, however the Dems spent every nickle we had and then some. The current solution our illustrious governor is proposing is to make a few token changes and increase our already highest taxes by a billion more.

Explain to me how that's good? Would you be prepared to spend a thousand a month on taxes for a $250K home?

 

[Red Dawn]

As always, the lesser of two evils. :\

I know, it sucks.

 

[eriqesque]

aint going to happen. Every second of coakley's life has been properly vetted,,,,10 times over. Squeaky clean.

And i am sure that brown is a homophobic racist.

Wait for it......

lol