Co-worker went to University of Phoenix and just promoted

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
D

Dal5

Junior Member
Aug 4, 2012
7
0
0
So I just got a call from a co-worker, telling me that another co-worker of mine was just promoted on the basis of her new "degree" and on Monday we are going to have to have someone take over her assignments. She is essentially a glorified file clerk, and I'm (well, I was) at least 4 levels above her. Now she is at the same level I am.

What degree you ask? An MBA from the University of Phoenix.

You see, a few months ago she "graduated" from University of Phoenix and went running around the office making sure everyone knew. Here was my conversation with her on that day:

Her: Hey I just graduated! I've got an MBA. <literally does a stupid dance in the hall>
Me: Oh? I didn't know you were in school. How did you find time for it when you work 60 hour weeks?
Her: I did online at University of Phoenix. I'm good at online. (literally said that phrase... "good at online") I've got a masters!
Me: Oh.... I didn't know you had a bachelors degree even.
Her: Bachelors? I don't have a bachelors.
Me: oh.... how did you go to grad school then?
Her: I just applied.
Me: Um, didn't you have to take the GRE/GMAT?
Her: GRE? GMAT? What's that?
Me: Those are tests you take to be admitted to grad school....
Her: Oh no I didn't have to take those.
Me: So you have no bachelors degree, and you just got an MBA?
Her: Yep! Did it in 18 months.
Me: Ok, well good job. (at this point I go back to work and wonder WTF kind of "school" allows someone to go from high school diploma to "masters" in 18 months online)


So now this idiot just got promoted because a director was impressed with her "MBA". I have two bachelors degrees (graduated magna and summa cum laude) from a state university. She now has the same job I do.

So ready to start a new career.....
 
G

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
21,704
6,139
136
Dal5 said:
So I just got a call from a co-worker, telling me that another co-worker of mine was just promoted on the basis of her new "degree" and on Monday we are going to have to have someone take over her assignments. She is essentially a glorified file clerk, and I'm (well, I was) at least 4 levels above her. Now she is at the same level I am.

What degree you ask? An MBA from the University of Phoenix.

You see, a few months ago she "graduated" from University of Phoenix and went running around the office making sure everyone knew. Here was my conversation with her on that day:

Her: Hey I just graduated! I've got an MBA. <literally does a stupid dance in the hall>
Me: Oh? I didn't know you were in school. How did you find time for it when you work 60 hour weeks?
Her: I did online at University of Phoenix. I'm good at online. (literally said that phrase... "good at online") I've got a masters!
Me: Oh.... I didn't know you had a bachelors degree even.
Her: Bachelors? I don't have a bachelors.
Me: oh.... how did you go to grad school then?
Her: I just applied.
Me: Um, didn't you have to take the GRE/GMAT?
Her: GRE? GMAT? What's that?
Me: Those are tests you take to be admitted to grad school....
Her: Oh no I didn't have to take those.
Me: So you have no bachelors degree, and you just got an MBA?
Her: Yep! Did it in 18 months.
Me: Ok, well good job. (at this point I go back to work and wonder WTF kind of "school" allows someone to go from high school diploma to "masters" in 18 months online)


So now this idiot just got promoted because a director was impressed with her "MBA". I have two bachelors degrees (graduated magna and summa cum laude) from a state university. She now has the same job I do.

So ready to start a new career.....
Click to expand...

Maybe she's just better than you. It happens.
 
D

Dal5

Junior Member
Aug 4, 2012
7
0
0
Greenman said:
Maybe she's just better than you. It happens.
Click to expand...

It's not possible to go from a high school diploma to a masters degree. That's not "better than you", that's called "something isn't right with this picture".
 
lxskllr

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
59,071
9,481
126
Dal5 said:
It's not possible to go from a high school diploma to a masters degree. That's not "better than you", that's called "something isn't right with this picture".
Click to expand...

Believe it or not, a piece of paper means jack shit. Some of the most knowledgeable, effective people I've worked with had little to no formal training. Results matter, not papers.
 
MontyAC

MontyAC

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2004
4,112
1
81
You can also enroll there and get your MBA, unless you already have one.
 
waggy

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Dal5 said:
It's not possible to go from a high school diploma to a masters degree. That's not "better than you", that's called "something isn't right with this picture".
Click to expand...

translated: whaaaaa Whaaaa whaaaa

gotcha.



lxskllr said:
Believe it or not, a piece of paper means jack shit. Some of the most knowledgeable, effective people I've worked with had little to no formal training. Results matter, not papers.
Click to expand...

yeah. Many times on the job training is far better then the diploma. having it helps as some won't promote without it. even if the person can do the job. this sure sounds like the case.
 
D

Dman8777

Senior member
Mar 28, 2011
426
8
81
On the job training/experience in most fields is often equivalent to higher education and that is especially true in business fields. If you've got your head screwed on right and can handle people, anyone can do that sort of work. The education you pay for usually just gets your foot in the door.

Examples of areas where that sort of thing doesn't fly are medicine, science, and engineering (to a lesser degree).

If your colleague was a dimwit and got promoted, then you'd have an argument. If she can handle her responsibilities and just needed the piece of paper to satisfy HR, then get over it.
 
Murloc

Murloc

Diamond Member
Jun 24, 2008
5,382
65
91
it's weird that they admit people who don't have tertiary education degrees to MBAs....
Unless she could get in due to her achievements or something.

SunnyD said:
I understand what he's TRYING to say. I'm also trying to point out that before you go saying it's impossible, don't go saying it's impossible.
Click to expand...

that's not what he was trying to say imho.
You are talking about success and degrees.
He's talking about admission rules to MBA.

How can someone with a high school degree be admitted to an MBA, unless she has managerial experience and stuff?
 
Last edited:
techs

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
28,559
4
0
I sympathize with the OP.
The University of Phoenix business program is not accredited by the largest accredition in the country.
Instead it is accredited by a group that sprang up in 1988 to specifically provide for inferior schools with no real standards.
The list of schools accredited by this group are a virutal who the f*ck are they list of colleges and online universities:
http://www.acbsp.org/p/cm/ld/fid=14

The organization was accepted by the US Department of Education however many corporations do not accept this and refuse to provide tuiition reimbursement for courses at these colleges.

However, the fact that they were even accepted as an accreditation association was thought to be political in that the for profit schools that make up the bulk of the members are large contributors to Republicans. An attempt was made to end their recognition in in 1991 when it turned out the schools standards were below that which was required for things like Federal student loan programs. The attempt failed due to Congress's involvement.
 
TakeNoPrisoners

TakeNoPrisoners

Platinum Member
Jun 3, 2011
2,599
1
81
There is no way to get a real masters degree of any sort in 18 months online without a bachelors or at least taking a GRE.

The degree is probably equal to an associates from a real college.
 
SandEagle

SandEagle

Lifer
Aug 4, 2007
16,809
13
0
you're missing major details like how hot is she? if she's a 7 and up, she probably deserves the promotion. why can't you think win- win and just be happy for her?


i guess this is one way to call out UofP and take it to the national media. An MBA without a bachelors is fraud. it diminishes the value of a true MBA. does the boss know she doesnt have a bachelors?

bottom line is who cares?
 
Last edited:
BillGates

BillGates

Diamond Member
Nov 30, 2001
7,388
2
81
Just did the University of Phoenix website chat:


Katrina: Thank you for contacting the University of Phoenix. My name is Katrina, how may I help you today?

David: Hi Katrinia - I'm interested in one of your business MBA degrees.

David: It will help me with my career!

David: I only have a high school diploma - no college degree - so can I still enroll in this?

Katrina: I&#8217;ll be happy to answer your questions. A requirement to enroll into our Masters program is to have a Bachelors degree.

David: (I would do the online version.)

Katrina: We have other degree programs in he business field.

Katrina: *the

David: Ok - that's all I needed to know. Thanks!
 
C

Codewiz

Diamond Member
Jan 23, 2002
5,758
0
76
techs said:
I sympathize with the OP.
The University of Phoenix business program is not accredited by the largest accredition in the country.
Instead it is accredited by a group that sprang up in 1988 to specifically provide for inferior schools with no real standards.
The list of schools accredited by this group are a virutal who the f*ck are they list of colleges and online universities:
http://www.acbsp.org/p/cm/ld/fid=14

The organization was accepted by the US Department of Education however many corporations do not accept this and refuse to provide tuiition reimbursement for courses at these colleges.

However, the fact that they were even accepted as an accreditation association was thought to be political in that the for profit schools that make up the bulk of the members are large contributors to Republicans. An attempt was made to end their recognition in in 1991 when it turned out the schools standards were below that which was required for things like Federal student loan programs. The attempt failed due to Congress's involvement.
Click to expand...

The really sad part is that our veterans serving after 9/11 get great education benefits and we are allowing those dollars to go to these scam for profit schools. Veterans are flushing their benefits down the drain.
 
M

ModerateRepZero

Golden Member
Jan 12, 2006
1,572
5
81
SunnyD said:
It's not possible to not get any sort of secondary education and found a high successful multibillion dollar company.

That's just not possible, at all!
Click to expand...

I would argue that it's the exception that proves the rule.

Gates didn't drop out of Harvard because he "couldn't hack it" as a student, he dropped out to found a business. As someone pointed out, he did attend for 2 years.

Steve Jobs also dropped out of college, but that was because he didn't think he could afford to take regular classes. He still audited some classes, including the calligraphy class he mentioned in the Stanford commencement.
 
V

Vic Vega

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2010
4,535
4
0
Seems odd to be able to enter a graduate program without an undergraduate so I went to their website and did a live chat to find out more.

Gina: Thank you for contacting the University of Phoenix. My name is Gina, how may I help you today?


Bob: Hello Gina.


Gina: Hi Bob, how can I help you today?


Bob: Gina, I am interested in your MBA program but I do not have a bachelors degree. Is it possible to apply for and complete the MBA program without it?


Gina: I can assist you with the admission process. May I update the page you are currently viewing so you can view the admissions requirements?


Bob: Yes.


Gina: That should update your browser to the Admission Requirements. Click on Masters or Graduate programs to view this.


Gina: From what I can see, you would need to have your undergraduate or bachelor degree completed before you will be able to enter into the masters.


Bob: Thank you, Gina. That's what I needed to know. Take care and have a good day.
Click to expand...

This is what Gina showed me on the website:

To enter a graduate degree program, you must:

  • have an undergraduate degree from an approved regionally-accredited or nationally-accredited college or university, or hold a comparable degree from a recognized institution outside the United States.
  • have a cumulative grade point average of 2.5 (on a 4.0 scale) as shown on the undergraduate degree posted transcript.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom