CNNs Rick Sanchez bitch slaps Fox News/Bill O'Reilly

[0marTheZealot]

Ratings has nothing to do with quality nor accuracy.

McDonalds sells far more food than any other restaurant in this nation. Does that mean they serve the best food? Of course not.

The same goes for FoxNews.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Patranus
Hate to burst your (collective) bubbles but several independent studies have been conducted and have found the Fox New is the LEAST BIAS news outlet.


Furthermore....
CABLE NEWS RATINGS
THURS., MAY 29, 2009
FOXNEWS OREILLY 3,526,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,474,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,009,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,871,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,834,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,787,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,298,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,029,000
CNNHN GRACE 915,000
CNN COOPER 852,000

Facts speak louder than illogical liberal bias.

You talk about facts without putting anything on the table. Where are these facts that are done by "several independent studies." Name the source and links. Don't be Bill O'Reilly to defend Bill O'Reilly; have some respect for yourself.

On the other hand, what are you trying to prove by mentioning ratings? If it's to prove that they're popular, I'd agree. If anything else, I disagree. Remember when WWF, WWE, or whatever was(is) damn popular? You don't think it's all 'real' because they're popular, do you?

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: Drako
Does anyone actually watch Rick Sanchez?

I can't even let CNN play in the background when he's on. He and his Twitter 'Tards are oh so annoying.

 

[Rainsford]

The more interesting point in this thread is that Bill O'Reilly made the EXACT same point as the Washington Times when it came to alleged media bias in politically motivated terrorism coverage. I mean the exact fucking point. And it's kind of a stupid point, since not only did the media cover the anti-military terrorism, but that has nothing to do with what happened to an abortion doctor beyond some cheap-ass political point scoring. Anyone who made that argument should be ashamed of themselves. And they should be doubly ashamed of themselves if it wasn't even an independent thought they had. Being an asshole is bad enough, being an asshole who doesn't think for himself is worse.

I mean of course Bill O'Reilly is a douche-nozzle, do we really need a thread on that? The more interesting point is that this is a perfect example of the right-wing echo chamber in action. No one who isn't a complete fucking moron would independently come up with that argument, the fact that two influential right-wing media sources did so suggests that any appearance of independent thought is an illusion.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Patranus
Hate to burst your (collective) bubbles but several independent studies have been conducted and have found the Fox New is the LEAST BIAS news outlet.


Furthermore....
CABLE NEWS RATINGS
THURS., MAY 29, 2009
FOXNEWS OREILLY 3,526,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,474,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,009,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,871,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,834,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,787,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,298,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,029,000
CNNHN GRACE 915,000
CNN COOPER 852,000

Facts speak louder than illogical liberal bias.

You talk about facts without putting anything on the table. Where are these facts that are done by "several independent studies." Name the source and links. Don't be Bill O'Reilly to defend Bill O'Reilly; have some respect for yourself.

On the other hand, what are you trying to prove by mentioning ratings? If it's to prove that they're popular, I'd agree. If anything else, I disagree. Remember when WWF, WWE, or whatever was(is) damn popular? You don't think it's all 'real' because they're popular, do you?

Yeah, ratings are inverse factor for me. When the majority of Americans like the same things I like, I tend to reconsider my choices. Not that they're always wrong, but it's hard to underestimate the stupidity of the majority. The fact that the Democrats are suddenly popular has me worried as well

The studies Patranus is probably talking about are the same ones that have been bandied around for years. The ones I've seen referenced use an incredibly questionable methodology of defining the median political viewpoint as "unbiased" and any deviation from that as biased one way or the other. And all of the studies I'm aware of were conducted during the Republican majority. In other words, according to most "studies", if Republicans said the moon was made of cheese and the Democrats said it was made of rock, the "unbiased" viewpoint would have to be that the makeup of the moon was uncertain. The studies compared media bias relative to the viewpoints expressed by the various politicians in office at the time, NOT objective truth. Probably because determining objective truth is actually quite difficult.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Ratings has nothing to do with quality nor accuracy.

McDonalds sells far more food than any other restaurant in this nation. Does that mean they serve the best food? Of course not.

The same goes for FoxNews.

Thank you. The only people who should care about ratings are advertisers.


OTOH, maybe Fox viewers do think McDs is the best rest, and hence their expanded waistlines.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Mani
O'Rielly's audience mostly consists of bitter losers who intentionally keep themselves insulated from the hypocrisy in anything he says. Bill and his buddies have successfully convinced them that anything outside FNC or AM radio is "librul media" so a rival network attacking Bill and making him look like the clown he is won't do a thing to his ratings.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I also think that the stereotype of liberals being condescending and elitist is ridiculous, I have no idea how someone could possibly get that impression of liberals.

The truth hurts.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Patranus
Hate to burst your (collective) bubbles but several independent studies have been conducted and have found the Fox New is the LEAST BIAS news outlet.


Furthermore....
CABLE NEWS RATINGS
THURS., MAY 29, 2009
FOXNEWS OREILLY 3,526,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,474,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,009,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,871,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,834,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,787,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,298,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,029,000
CNNHN GRACE 915,000
CNN COOPER 852,000

Facts speak louder than illogical liberal bias.

You should stick to lurking.

 

[Red Irish]

Bill O'Reilly? The name identifies him as the descendant of one of ours that we shipped over on one of those boats when we were doing a bit of social weeding. To our relief, I think the RMA period has expired.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Ratings has nothing to do with quality nor accuracy.

McDonalds sells far more food than any other restaurant in this nation. Does that mean they serve the best food? Of course not.

The same goes for FoxNews.

Hey... as a fat angry white male (not old... sorry), I love my Cheeseburgers, Fries, and McNuggets. They are food made from heaven (surely, if I eat enough of them, I will be with the Gods).

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: RY62

Originally posted by: Genx87
Did I miss any intellectually stimulating conversation in this thread? No you say?

Nothing intellectually stimulating. Here's the condensed version of the thread.

1. O'Reilly stated something about the lib media that was false and later corrected himself on air.

2. O'Reilly labeled George Tiller as "Tiller the baby killer" and said that Tiller had blood on his hands.

3. Some nutjob killed the the guy who was killing babies and it's somehow O'Reilly's fault that the nutjob killed the killer.

4. Fox News sucks but has more viewers than all the other cable news networks combined.

5. Everyone of the people who are trying to feed us their version of the news is a douche.

:laugh::thumbsup:

 

[TheSlamma]

Bill thinks he can fight back with something.. he was talking about prime time.. LOL

And such a "humble" apology too

 

[DesiPower]

I don't watch cable news much either but during election season it was interesting to watch these channels, more like the NBA playoffs...
I watched several different shows and IMO O'Reilly Factor was the most entertaining. This guy really knows his job, although he is a right wing nut he did make himself sound like someone in the middle and that made his show interesting to watch. His apologizing for his mistakes and misreporting was price sell, I guess that's the key of keeping his ratings up.
All the others shows were pretty much someone's bitch.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: JD50
YAHFNCT

Yet Another HomerJS FNC Thread

Acutally YAHFNCLTTAAT

Yet Another HomerJS FNC Lying Through Their Ass Again Thread.

When they stop I'll stop.

 

[Pocatello]

Originally posted by: Drako
Does anyone actually watch Rick Sanchez?

I've tried, but I've come to a decision that he doesn't deliver the news. He talks a lot though.

 

[polarmystery]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Patranus
Hate to burst your (collective) bubbles but several independent studies have been conducted and have found the Fox New is the LEAST BIAS news outlet.


Furthermore....
CABLE NEWS RATINGS
THURS., MAY 29, 2009
FOXNEWS OREILLY 3,526,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,474,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,009,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,871,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 1,834,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,787,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,298,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,029,000
CNNHN GRACE 915,000
CNN COOPER 852,000

Facts speak louder than illogical liberal bias.

You should stick to lurking.

This. Popularity is not an indication for bias, it just means there are a lot of stupid people out there.