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[CNN] Trump is against nuclear non-proliferation, or maybe not?

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flexy said:
If he refers to certain wars in the M.E. with more than questionable outcomes, then yes.

If he refers to stationed troops in, say Europe (like he did in the past), basically saying Germans, other Europeans etc. should get off their asses, take a leading role rather than having the US do all the work, better even "should pay the US for their presence" etc.. (as he argued)..then no.

Because it's the US which profits from their NATO presence here in Europe. The US's hubs to the Middle East, military bases and military hospitals, say in Germany. Missiles stationed on the outskirts of NATO, pointing towards East.

Do you think EUROPE "profits" from those missile bases?

We are a fucking first target in any potential conflict because of them.

We should not pay the US to have training grounds and bases in Europe, you should pay us 🙂

If you'd leave NATO and abandon EU bases I think it's more a strategic loss for you than for Europe.
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This is what I was talking about:

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Meghan54 said:
Guess you didn't watch the interview, did you? Here are a few instances during the interview you didn't watch in which Cooper said proliferation and once when Trump himself said proliferation, all used within the context of nuclear proliferation....a concept Trump seems unable to define or understand.




Again, from CNN's transcript of the interview: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1603/29/acd.02.html
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Ouch, Trump sounds bad when I hear him, it's even worse to read something like this.
 
SP33Demon said:
He wants less nukes in the hands of bad guys and more nukes in our allies' hands so we don't have to pay for their protection. Duh. You guys are pretty slow. And the OP adding the word proliferation is even funnier, that word never came up during the interview. Trump used the term nuclear global warming which implies non-ally countries getting nukes which he is against. He is for our allies getting nukes because it creates less reliance on us (obviously).
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Neither you nor Trump understand the concept of nuclear proliferation.
 
Subyman said:
Nuclear global warming is Trump's brain fizzling. He is totally out of his league.
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Leave Trump alone. Let him destroy the Republican Party so he can move on to destroying the democrats. Those are where the danger to the country are. Try to see the big picture.
 
zinfamous said:
Neither you nor Trump understand the concept of nuclear proliferation.
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it's fine that speedy has no concept of it, however, drumpf, wanting to be president, probably should. I forget, who did the repubs label a perpetual flip-flopper, was it WJ Clinton?
Anyway, drumpf is the penultimate flip-flopper, on some issues you barely have to wait an hour before he changes his stance.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
it's fine that speedy has no concept of it, however, drumpf, wanting to be president, probably should. I forget, who did the repubs label a perpetual flip-flopper, was it WJ Clinton?
Anyway, drumpf is the penultimate flip-flopper, on some issues you barely have to wait an hour before he changes his stance.
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Only Democrats can be flip-floppers. Donald is just... flexible. Yeh, that's it. Cuz he's so open minded.

It's kinda like more guns make us safer, right?
 
why would he even question our alliance with Korea or Japan? Just when you think he can't say something more stupid than previous, it gets worse.
 
evident said:
why would he even question our alliance with Korea or Japan? Just when you think he can't say something more stupid than previous, it gets worse.
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He is talking about not funding that shit anymore, he didn't say breaking the alliance. It comes down to money and they aren't providing enough in return for what we are giving them monetarily. We can still send resources to help them if they are ever attacked, we don't need to have costly resources there 24/7 when it can be better used here.
 
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SP33Demon said:
He is talking about not funding that shit anymore, he didn't say breaking the alliance. It comes down to money and they aren't providing enough in return for what we are giving them monetarily. We can still send resources to help them if they are ever attacked, we don't need to have costly resources there 24/7 when it can be better used here.
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Sorry, I disagree with this. They are our key allies in the asia pacific region, world economic powerhouses where we wield tons of influence. to "not fund that shit" means we lose our influence, lose or diminish our military and bases there and let china take over even more than they already are. I don't see any reasonable republican or democrat agreeing with nuclear proliferation of the korean peninsula or scaling back our alliance with South Korea or Japan. we need them as much as they need us in containing china, forget about north korea even. can you explain how nuclearizing south korea and japan, and diminishing our military there makes america great again?

this is probably the most concrete and dangerous policy statements he's made.
 
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SP33Demon said:
Nowhere in the OP did it say anything about proliferation. It has nothing to do with that term so Trump refused to address it, duh.
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The OP has a link to the transcript where the interview mentions it 7 times. You don't bother to read anything though, so it is par for the course. Keep on Trumpeting, curious to see what you will be defending next week.
 
SP33Demon said:
Nowhere in the OP did it say anything about proliferation. It has nothing to do with that term so Trump refused to address it, duh.
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You have got to be one of the most willfully ignorant saps on this board. Never read a damned bit of the transcripts nor watched the talk, did you? Trump used the word proliferation more than once during the talk, Cooper used it several times without mistake.

Post #25 shows several uses of the word, including once by Trump. So you were saying?

My suggestion.....quit the 'roids.....they're rotting your brain and most likely will make your scrotum and contents dry up and turn you into Caitlyn Jenner, if it hasn't already.
 
evident said:
Sorry, I disagree with this. They are our key allies in the asia pacific region, world economic powerhouses where we wield tons of influence. to "not fund that shit" means we lose our influence, lose or diminish our military and bases there and let china take over even more than they already are. I don't see any reasonable republican or democrat agreeing with nuclear proliferation of the korean peninsula or scaling back our alliance with South Korea or Japan. we need them as much as they need us in containing china, forget about north korea even. can you explain how nuclearizing south korea and japan, and diminishing our military there makes america great again?

this is probably the most concrete and dangerous policy statements he's made.
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Yep. There are a lot of advantages to the spread of our military in both an economic sense and a regional stability sense. There are major shipping routes in these areas and big economies that we trade with. The key to our military use is to elect leaders that don't use it blindly and instead adopt the TR approach of "speaking softly, yet carrying a big stick."

Plus, I don't think the South Koreans would be too happy about a heavily re-armed Japan. There's a lot of enmity between those two countries.
 
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