CNN Cuomo

[cytg111]

So was I the only one to miss this?

CNN suspends Chris Cuomo after probe shows he advised ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo

"These documents point to a greater level of involvement in his brother’s efforts than we previously knew," the network said Tuesday night.

www.nbcnews.com

Accountability. Say what?
From fake news CNN?
Cant be.

I am SHOCKED.

 

[Bitek]

Talk about a crash and burn from that family. Holy hell.

Gotta be maga if you want to behave like that

 

[Ajay]

What? Dude helps brother out in a time of need. Assuming he did it on his own time, what the hell does it matter. For better or worse, you help out your family members.
In other news, CNN covers its ass. Whatever.

 

[HomerJS]

The MSM holds their people accountable? Not so shocking? Maybe the next time you decide to self hypnotize on Fox you should remember this.

 

[Ajay]

The MSM holds their people accountable? Not so shocking? Maybe the next time you decide to self hypnotize on Fox you should remember this.

What? Is this directed to me? I probably haven't watched FOX in 15 years (when they actually had a news division). Anyway, I think this is just CYA, hence my comment.

 

[Brainonska511]

What? Dude helps brother out in a time of need. Assuming he did it on his own time, what the hell does it matter. For better or worse, you help out your family members.
In other news, CNN covers its ass. Whatever.

You help family members cover up their unethical or illegal actions?

 

[HomerJS]

What? Is this directed to me? I probably haven't watched FOX in 15 years (when they actually had a news division). Anyway, I think this is just CYA, hence my comment.

That was a general statement to loyal Fox News viewers who still take their bullshit seriously

 

[Ajay]

You help family members cover up their unethical or illegal actions?

I didn't read anything about a coverup. But providing advice, seeking out a good lawyer, even getting some background on what actually happened - seems like reasonable actions of a brother. If he did those things at work or on-air, well, eff him. Of course, he opens himself up to potential cross-examination for his actions - that is reasonable as well. Would I do it - IDK, hasn't happened, but I would support him even if he was a murderer; love of family isn't love if you back out at any sign of trouble. It would be a very tough position to be in, of course.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

love of family isn't love if you back out at any sign of trouble.

Love of family under all circumstances can be toxic.

 

[hal2kilo]

I mentioned in another thread that I was surprised CNN had not already fired him. That's Fox News type of BS. They finally did the right thing. And no, I haven't read any of the previous replies.

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't read anything about a coverup. But providing advice, seeking out a good lawyer, even getting some background on what actually happened - seems like reasonable actions of a brother. If he did those things at work or on-air, well, eff him. Of course, he opens himself up to potential cross-examination for his actions - that is reasonable as well. Would I do it - IDK, hasn't happened, but I would support him even if he was a murderer; love of family isn't love if you back out at any sign of trouble. It would be a very tough position to be in, of course.

If you're a journalist and you're helping out political candidates that your network covers without disclosing this to them that's unethical and CNN is right to discipline him.

As hal2kilo said, that's the sort of thing that Fox News and conservative media does. CNN is better than them.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Nobody has mentioned that Andrew Cuomo was a regular guest on his brothers show during the beginning of covid. Andrew Cuomo then got the idea to write a book about being the father of America during covid. All the while being investigated for abuse of power in office of a non sexual nature. The sexual abuse part came later.

CNN looks foolish for keeping Chris Cuomo on the air so long. His brother is guilty and they think the viewers of CNN forget "hey big brother, glad to have you here." Big brother is no longer governor and off air Chris Cuomo was acting as his brother, attorney and fixer.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Love of family under all circumstances can be toxic.

Love of family is/should be unconditional. you can love someone and still not agree with their actions, regardless of the circumstances.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Love of family is/should be unconditional. you can love someone and still not agree with their actions, regardless of the circumstances.

Sorry, let me rephrase. Support, willingness to do anything for someone, etc can be toxic. Most people conflate love with that.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Sorry, let me rephrase. Support, willingness to do anything for someone, etc can be toxic. Most people conflate love with that.

When you truly unconditionally love someone, you will support them, which doesn't mean you agree with what they did, and will be willing to do nearly anything for them.. If you think otherwise, you don't know what true unconditional love is. Unconditional love is not toxic.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

When you truly unconditionally love someone, you will support them, which doesn't mean you agree with what they did, and will be willing to do nearly anything for them.. If you think otherwise, you don't know what true unconditional love is.

Supporting toxic behavior is more likely to do harm than good, and so true 'support' (as in, helping a person) might come in the form of doing absolutely nothing, or the opposite of what the person wants. Gotta be careful with terms like 'unconditional support'.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Supporting toxic behavior is more likely to do harm than good, and so true 'support' (as in, helping a person) might come in the form of doing absolutely nothing, or the opposite of what the person wants. Gotta be careful with terms like 'unconditional support'.

Who said anything about supporting toxic behavior? Supporting someone does not mean you are supporting the behavior, or agreeing with the behavior.. You can still give someone you love unconditional support, and still not agree with their behavior.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Supporting someone does not mean you are supporting the behavior, or agreeing with the behavior.. You can still give someone you love unconditional support, and still not agree with their behavior.

What form of support would you give someone exhibiting toxic behavior that they're asking for your assistance with, or trying to bond with you over?

 

[vi edit]

I really struggle on this one. This has been a story/scandal since earlier this spring. My personal line was if Chris was using his position to vette and control narratives. It does look like that was happening to some extent. So he made his bed, time to sleep in it.

That said, I'm not going to convict a brother for supporting another. I'm just not. There is daylight between supporting the person and supporting the behavior.

 

[NWRMidnight]

What form of support would you give someone exhibiting toxic behavior that they're asking for your assistance with, or trying to bond with you over?

Where is Andrew Como asking his brother to assist him in sexually harassing women (His toxic behavior) or asking him to support such behavior? He's not. Andrew is asking his brother to help him navigate the repercussions of his behavior. His behavior has NOTHING to do with Chris, and as any loving brother would do, Chris is helping him navigate the path to have the best ending results.. It doesn't require him to support his brother's "toxic" behavior.. You are confusing Andrew's behavior with Chris supporting him thru his legal battle. They are completely two different things..

I also don't know where you pulled "Try to bond with each other" out of your ass from.. Andrew and Chris from what I have seen, have always had a pretty good relationship. However, I have only taken noticed over the last couple years since Andrew has been in the for front because of COVID.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Where is Andrew Como asking his brother to assist him in sexually harassing women (His toxic behavior)? He's not. Andrew is asking his brother to help him navigate the repercussions of his behavior. His behavior has NOTHING to do with Chris, and as any loving brother would do, they would help navigate the path to have the best ending results.. It doesn't require him to support his brother's "toxic" behavior.. You are confusing Andrew's behavior with Chris supporting him thru his legal battle. They are completely two different things..

I also don't know where you pulled "Try to bond with each other" out of your ass from.. Andrew and Chris from what I have seen, have always had a pretty good relationship. But, I have only taken noticed over the last couple years..

Hey now, I wasn't referencing Andrew or Chris in any of this, I was just responding to comments in this thread regarding unconditional love/support. I actually don't know enough about the details of this specific case to give a shit/reasoned response.

My personal take would be: if Chris was using his position to assist Andrew in either a coverup, or legal finagling to get himself out of trouble, that would be A Bad Thing. Otherwise, probably fine.

 

[vi edit]

My personal take would be: if Chris was using his position to assist Andrew in either a coverup, or legal finagling to get himself out of trouble, that would be A Bad Thing. Otherwise, probably fine.

That's sort of where I am. I don't have a brother, do have a sister and it's a different relationship. But say I did and we were close and he did something stupid (say cheat) and got kicked out of his house I'd probably offer him a couch for a bit to get on his feet. Same for my sister. I did foot the bill for her a bit when she was trying to figure out what to do with her life and let her stay at my place. I may not condone the cheating (which lets be clear is an ethical thing and not a legal thing) but I can still support him.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Hey now, I wasn't referencing Andrew or Chris in any of this, I was just responding to comments in this thread regarding unconditional love/support. I actually don't know enough about the details of this specific case to give a shit/reasoned response.

My personal take would be: if Chris was using his position to assist Andrew in either a coverup, or legal finagling to get himself out of trouble, that would be A Bad Thing. Otherwise, probably fine.

Did you pay attention to the thread title? What do you think the discussion and the mention of unconditional love/support was about? You where commenting about unconditional love/support when you don't even grasp what that means.. You somehow believe it means you unconditionally support a person's behavior, if you unconditionally love/support someone.. and that is 100% false. What you are trying to argue, has nothing to do with unconditional or support at all. What you are trying to argue falls under sanity and mental competencies, not love.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Did you pay attention to the thread title? What do you think the discussion and the mention of unconditional love/support was about? You where commenting about unconditional love/support when you don't even grasp what that means.. You somehow believe it means you unconditionally support a person's behavior, if you unconditionally love/support someone.. and that is 100% false. What you are trying to argue, has nothing to do with unconditional or support at all. What you are trying to argue falls under sanity and mental competencies, not love.

I was offering input onto a specific statement, not with some intention to derail a conversation, just to highlight a difference that should be taken into account. I never stated it had anything to do with the thread's subject specifically regarding Chris and Andrew.

 

[Ajay]

There is daylight between supporting the person and supporting the behavior.

^ This is exactly what I meant. Thanks for making this most important distinction!