CNN Breaking NEWS. Vials missing from Texas Tech. May contain bubonic plauge.

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richardycc

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I bet you 10cents that someone probably threw them out years ago, and they've just discovered that now, and making a big scare out of it.

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Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: maladroit
Yay a new thing for everyone to panic about.

No doubt.
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Who really cares?

amish
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: Hanpan
I was just on CNN.com checking out Bush's new plan for university admissions (without quotas) and there was a breaking news banner about some missing vials from Texas Tech. It seems to inidcate one or more of these may contain the bubonic plauge. Anyone have any details?

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"The symptoms are swollen, tender lymph nodes, fever, and extreme exhaustion. Ten to 20 people a year are infected in rural areas of the western United States, while globally there are 1,000 to 3,000 cases a year.

It can be treated with antibiotics, but if it isn't treated promptly, it can cause death. (let's not get too riled up about this.) :)

symptoms sound exactly like the symptoms of mono which i am now getting over, hmm i had fever sweating... couldnt move... maybe i had the plauge... but those are the exact symptoms of mono

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Mill

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: maladroit
Yay a new thing for everyone to panic about.

No doubt.
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Who really cares?

amish

Hey could you fix my name Amish? WB back the way. I was wondering where the hell you were last night.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: maladroit
Yay a new thing for everyone to panic about.

No doubt.
rolleye.gif


Who really cares?

amish

Hey could you fix my name Amish? WB back the way. I was wondering where the hell you were last night.


Last night?? I've been on a mandatory vacation for the last month. :D

amish
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: maladroit
Yay a new thing for everyone to panic about.

No doubt.
rolleye.gif


Who really cares?

amish

Hey could you fix my name Amish? WB back the way. I was wondering where the hell you were last night.


Last night?? I've been on a mandatory vacation for the last month. :D

amish

So, did you work on your tan then?
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: deftron
The bubonic plague is fairly common in wild rodents ..

Not too hard to find. Some lady in Arizona, I believe, got it from running over a mouse with her lawnmoer.

Anyways, it's not the same as the Black Plague, the famous midieval crisis, which kills you in like 1 day

Actually, it is since it's the same bacteria, Yersinia pestis, but it doesn't kill you in anything like one day.

It's really too bad that the press will doubtless go apesh*t over this since it's really not much of a threat as a bioweapon. NakaNaka's example of 100,000 in a city infected would be extremely hard to accomplish for several reasons. First off, it's quite difficult to culture large amounts of this stuff. You can grow it in a lab, but it tends to rapidly lose virulence over generations in such an environment. Growing it in more of a "natural" environment to where it won't lose virulence is a HUGE pain in the ass since you're basically culturing fleas. Even if you manage to somehow grow up a bunch of this stuff, you then have the problem of distribution since you have to hit people with live culture whereas anthrax conveniently forms the tough "spores" that can be stored in their inactive form and then spread around at a later date. So basically someone would have to rig up a tank of active culture in a plane or something and use that to spread it around. Any kind of warhead loaded with this stuff would just destroy the bacteria when it went off.


 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: maladroit
Yay a new thing for everyone to panic about.

No doubt.
rolleye.gif


Who really cares?

amish

Hey could you fix my name Amish? WB back the way. I was wondering where the hell you were last night.


Last night?? I've been on a mandatory vacation for the last month. :D

amish

So, did you work on your tan then?


With the weather around here lately I probably could have.... ;)

amish
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: deftron
The bubonic plague is fairly common in wild rodents ..

Not too hard to find. Some lady in Arizona, I believe, got it from running over a mouse with her lawnmoer.

Anyways, it's not the same as the Black Plague, the famous midieval crisis, which kills you in like 1 day

Actually, it is since it's the same bacteria, Yersinia pestis, but it doesn't kill you in anything like one day.

It's really too bad that the press will doubtless go apesh*t over this since it's really not much of a threat as a bioweapon. NakaNaka's example of 100,000 in a city infected would be extremely hard to accomplish for several reasons. First off, it's quite difficult to culture large amounts of this stuff. You can grow it in a lab, but it tends to rapidly lose virulence over generations in such an environment. Growing it in more of a "natural" environment to where it won't lose virulence is a HUGE pain in the ass since you're basically culturing fleas. Even if you manage to somehow grow up a bunch of this stuff, you then have the problem of distribution since you have to hit people with live culture whereas anthrax conveniently forms the tough "spores" that can be stored in their inactive form and then spread around at a later date. So basically someone would have to rig up a tank of active culture in a plane or something and use that to spread it around. Any kind of warhead loaded with this stuff would just destroy the bacteria when it went off.

I thought the black plague was Puerorum Pestis, and the bubonic was Yersinia Pestis.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: deftron
The bubonic plague is fairly common in wild rodents ..

Not too hard to find. Some lady in Arizona, I believe, got it from running over a mouse with her lawnmoer.

Anyways, it's not the same as the Black Plague, the famous midieval crisis, which kills you in like 1 day

Actually, it is since it's the same bacteria, Yersinia pestis, but it doesn't kill you in anything like one day.

It's really too bad that the press will doubtless go apesh*t over this since it's really not much of a threat as a bioweapon. NakaNaka's example of 100,000 in a city infected would be extremely hard to accomplish for several reasons. First off, it's quite difficult to culture large amounts of this stuff. You can grow it in a lab, but it tends to rapidly lose virulence over generations in such an environment. Growing it in more of a "natural" environment to where it won't lose virulence is a HUGE pain in the ass since you're basically culturing fleas. Even if you manage to somehow grow up a bunch of this stuff, you then have the problem of distribution since you have to hit people with live culture whereas anthrax conveniently forms the tough "spores" that can be stored in their inactive form and then spread around at a later date. So basically someone would have to rig up a tank of active culture in a plane or something and use that to spread it around. Any kind of warhead loaded with this stuff would just destroy the bacteria when it went off.

I thought the black plague was Puerorum Pestis, and the bubonic was Yersinia Pestis.
Nope, same bug. One's just a pneumonic infection is all, AFAIK. When you get the plague via a flea (for instance) it eventually works its way to your lungs. At this point, if you cough/sneeze/etc, you can infect another person's lungs directly (which kills you a lot faster than the systemic version).
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Condition taupe! I repeat: Condition taupe!


Ok, the President has now upgraded the alert from taupe to brown. I repeat: Condition brown. God help us if we ever reach Condition burnt umber.

 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Amish! You're back! I thought you had left AT permanently.

So had I!!! :)

The MODS, in their infinite wisdom, generosity and kindness, have allowed me to come back and soil their sacred forums. ;)

amish
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Amish! You're back! I thought you had left AT permanently.

So had I!!! :)

The MODS, in their infinite wisdom, generosity and kindness, have allowed me to come back and soil their sacred forums. ;)

amish

You have some brown on your nose.