CNN Bias Again?

[SlowSpyder]

This is simply not true. There are a few mainstream editorial authors with a severe case of TDS, but CNN has used kid gloves on Trump relative to other networks.

I have to disagree, I've seen some examples of CNN going out of their way to be anti-Trump.

 

[realibrad]

That's ridiculous obfuscation. A monthly uptick is in no way demonstration of a trend. A longer timeline, like a year, is a lot more indicative of the facts. Even longer timelines indicate that illegal immigration peaked in 2008 & declined to a relatively stable number of such people in this country.

There is no invasion, no national emergency.

The question was asked in months. The last 4 month trend for border apprehensions has been upward. The jump from Sep to Oct was quite large. Compared to last year, the increase during those months was far less.

So, when the question was asked what has been different in the past 23 months, it seems reasonable to answer that it has gone up in the past 4 months. So, for about 1/5 of the window established in the original question, we have seen a large uptick in border apprehensions.

 

[Meghan54]

Meanwhile, Julie Hillrichs, spokeswoman for the Texas Border Coalition, a group of border mayors (including Darling), county judges and border communities focused on issues that impact border quality of life for more than 2.5 million people, tells TIME the Coalition believes the real way to increase security at the border would not be a wall, but increased investment in the legal ports of entry that already exist in their area.

“We have never supported the wall,” Hillrichs says. “The Border Coalition has consistently over the years stated we believe the wall is a wasted investment.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...residents-say-otherwise/ar-BBS5dzQ?li=BBnb7Kz



But the heck with the people who actually live and work where the "crisis" is centered and what they actually think, believe, and fully understand.

 

[SlowSpyder]

The question was asked in months. The last 4 month trend for border apprehensions has been upward. The jump from Sep to Oct was quite large. Compared to last year, the increase during those months was far less.

So, when the question was asked what has been different in the past 23 months, it seems reasonable to answer that it has gone up in the past 4 months. So, for about 1/5 of the window established in the original question, we have seen a large uptick in border apprehensions.

Any way you slice it, that is tens of thousands of apprehensions. To me that is a national emergency that needs to be dealt with. I imagine the amount of human/sex trafficking is outrageous. I wonder what percentage makes it across?

 

[realibrad]

Thing is it’s about a wall so it needs to be measured in terms of the walls life which will be years/decades at minimum.

That seems reasonable, but, your question was in the last 23 months.

As for the justification for the wall, I don't personally think there is in terms of the entire border. I do think we could use a physical barrier in more places we currently have. To build what Trump has said he wants would be a waste of money.

Trump as well as his opponents have turned the debate to be about a wall, when it should firmly be focused on immigration policy. The wall is at best a distraction for a policy that has little if any benefit to the US.

But, your question was what has changed in the last 23 months, and, my response seems like a valid answer.

 

[outriding]

Low for year, up for monthly.

Why should immigration be measured in years, and not months, days, weeks, decades?

I want the data by the minute. So when I see a slight increase for a minute I can use it to justify irrational conclusions

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You try so hard. Just happens to be a story that was abandoned that showed Trump to be in the right. Nothing to see here, keep your head buried in the sand.

No, you are saying an untruth. Trump was not shown to be right, anecdotes without any analysis was

Bonus points for Jim Acosta showing that physical barriers do indeed work.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jim-acosta-shows-walls-work-at-border-gop-politicians-tease

not reported.

Acosta? If you and your lord and masters are correct the places without walls would be in turmoil.

Nope, miles and miles of tranquility.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That seems reasonable, but, your question was in the last 23 months.

As for the justification for the wall, I don't personally think there is in terms of the entire border. I do think we could use a physical barrier in more places we currently have. To build what Trump has said he wants would be a waste of money.

Trump as well as his opponents have turned the debate to be about a wall, when it should firmly be focused on immigration policy. The wall is at best a distraction for a policy that has little if any benefit to the US.

But, your question was what has changed in the last 23 months, and, my response seems like a valid answer.

I’ll take that provided the definition of emergency is dependent upon whom you ask.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Wtf? No fox link to tell us about the bias in news?

 

[realibrad]

Any way you slice it, that is tens of thousands of apprehensions. To me that is a national emergency that needs to be dealt with. I imagine the amount of human/sex trafficking is outrageous. I wonder what percentage makes it across?

Its not a national emergency, that is silly. Yes, tends of thousands seems like a lot, but, its not the record by any means. It has correctly been pointed out that the larger trend is downward.

You are correct that human and sex trafficking is a big problem. The increase of 20,000 apprehensions is likely a signal that there is also an increase in those types of activity. Further, as the economy is doing better, its also likely that people are spending money on those types of things.

I think border security as well as immigration policy need to be improved. I think you are over-valuing the security and under-valuing the policy. We would benefit from more immigrants coming over vs keeping them out.

 

[realibrad]

I’ll take that provided the definition of emergency is dependent upon whom you ask.

Pretty much. I don't think its an emergency. SS just tried to make the case it was, and I think that is wrong.

 

[WelshBloke]

Someone post the video of Trump telling people not to let walls stop them, that they should climb over them, or go under them, or through them!

 

[HomerJS]

I have to disagree, I've seen some examples of CNN going out of their way to be anti-Trump.

Example. Absent that its just you spouting a baseless claim

 

[SlowSpyder]

Its not a national emergency, that is silly. Yes, tends of thousands seems like a lot, but, its not the record by any means. It has correctly been pointed out that the larger trend is downward.

You are correct that human and sex trafficking is a big problem. The increase of 20,000 apprehensions is likely a signal that there is also an increase in those types of activity. Further, as the economy is doing better, its also likely that people are spending money on those types of things.

I think border security as well as immigration policy need to be improved. I think you are over-valuing the security and under-valuing the policy. We would benefit from more immigrants coming over vs keeping them out.

I've been quite consistent in my stance. I think we need a more streamlined path to citizenship that even those that lack financial resources can take advantage of. I have good friends that are legal immigrants, I was best man at my friend's wedding, he is a legal immigrant. His wife is a legal immigrant. For them it took a lot of effort and time to become a citizens. I believe we need an overhaul here that vets whom we allow in but does make the process more accessible. I firmly do not believe we should be lax on illegal immigration.

That is great that it is trending downward, but it is still a huge number of people coming here illegally, and quite the cost to us. We're going to have to disagree, I think this is a problem that has been ignored for far too long and has become an emergency. I have little doubt that human trafficking is at a horrendous level today. A wall may not be a be all end all answer, but I think it does provide a lot of deterrence for the low hanging fruit.

 

[Jhhnn]

Poor Slow is upset because the Fake News Media criticized Dear Leader.

CNN is the Enemy of the People! Truth isn't truth! Wall! is the answer to all the hopes & fears of America!

 

[SlowSpyder]

Example. Absent that its just you spouting a baseless claim

My prime example that I've posted before is CNN's spin on Trump in Japan. They went out of their way to make him look bad and took things completely out of context to do so.

 

[HomerJS]

Any way you slice it, that is tens of thousands of apprehensions. To me that is a national emergency that needs to be dealt with. I imagine the amount of human/sex trafficking is outrageous. I wonder what percentage makes it across?

So now that someone has show you evidence it's not an emergency, it's an emergency because you say so?

Lame!

 

[SlowSpyder]

Someone post the video of Trump telling people not to let walls stop them, that they should climb over them, or go under them, or through them!

Metaphorical walls, not physical barriers.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You fucking imbecile. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IT IS BEING SUGGESTED THAT THIS STORY WAS ABANDONED DUE TO BIAS. No one is saying that new sources aren't allowed to add/remove stories at will. But IN THIS INSTANCE IT WAS DUE TO BIAS. If you cannot understand that, I am sorry for you. You try so hard to be a cheerleader.

Ok, here's you article. "People are giving anecdotal testimony that the wall works contrary to every finding of fact"

A Miss. congress critter was confronted with facts over his *demonstrable* lies and went "well you can believe liberal propaganda". No, facts are just that. It is you, he and the Trumpettes who wish to use the propaganda of lies, gaslighting over and over with what is best willful inaccuracies and treachery, seditious behaviors against the nation.


There is no crisis at the border. The crisis is your Reichfurer and his minions.

 

[SlowSpyder]

So now that someone has show you evidence it's not an emergency, it's an emergency because you say so?

Lame!

Yes, to me the levels of human trafficking and criminals sifting through the border has become an emergency. This is a problem that has gone on far too long and not been properly addressed. Do you think sex trafficking is bad? I do.

 

[HomerJS]

My prime example that I've posted before is CNN's spin on Trump in Japan. They went out of their way to make him look badly and took things completely out of context to do so.

Be specific. Did CNN report something that didn't happen? What was taken out of context?

 

[outriding]

Metaphorical walls, not physical barriers.

How about the metaphorical check that Mexico was to write us for the physical barrier?

 

[SlowSpyder]

How about the metaphorical check that Mexico was to write us for the physical barrier?

Right, it is in the trade deal.

 

[HomerJS]

Yes, to me the levels of human trafficking and criminals sifting through the border has become an emergency. This is a problem that has gone on far too long and not been properly addressed. Do you think sex trafficking is bad? I do.

I'm going to ask you 2 questions and be careful how you answer.

What is the #1 source for people in this country illegally?
Has Trump done anything about it?

Now let's get back to the so called "security emergency" at the Southern border.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Trigger warning: This is from Trump's Twitter account, it is a 1:30 video. It posts facts and figures. What is AT P&N's take on this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1083417521192165378