CNET: Is AMD still relevant?

[Phynaz]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57448692-92/is-amd-still-relevant/

I have to agree about AMD over promising.

 

[grimpr]

Somehow the cnet author missed the boat with the news.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/amd-shows-off-its-first-windows-8-concept-tablet-at-computex-201/

 

[podspi]

I think it depends on what we're talking about.

If we're talking about consumers of lower-end desktops and laptops (and low/midrange ultraportables?), then yes AMD is still relevant. They have products that I think are good value propositions for some consumers.

If we're talking about the tablet market, then no (and Intel is only barely so at this point).

If we're talking about AMD as a constraint for Intel's pricing, probably not.

And if we're talking about AMD as the GPU company, then yes.

 

[piesquared]

It's a good sign that intel is feeling the heat again when it starts sponsoring articles like these. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that Trinity leaves consumers with a much more satisfying experience than it's competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIYWFej-_wg

 

[futurefields]

It's a good sign that intel is feeling the heat again when it starts sponsoring articles like these. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that Trinity leaves consumers with a much more satisfying experience than it's competition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIYWFej-_wg

Trollololololollllllllll


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[JeffreyLebowski]

Somehow the cnet author missed the boat with the news.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/06/amd-shows-off-its-first-windows-8-concept-tablet-at-computex-201/

1366 x 768 display. teh fail

 

[thilanliyan]

If AMD doesn't have something good in Piledriver desktop CPUs, I'm going back to Intel for the first time since 2008.

 

[lifeblood]

If AMD doesn't have something good in Piledriver desktop CPUs, I'm going back to Intel for the first time since 2008.

If Piledriver is competitive for gaming I will get one, but unless AMD really makes something good beyond PD that will be my last CPU from them. By surrendering the high end, they surrendered me. The only reason I don't go Intel now is I'm too busy (and poor) to swap both CPU and motherboard.

I also have to admit their labeling of the Brazos 2.0 GPU a 7XXX model really leaves a bitter taste as well. I can kinda overlook their labeling VLIW-4 GPUs as 7000 series, but to label a VLIW-5 GPU that? That's just deceptive to the point of immorality.

 

[piesquared]

Trollololololollllllllll

What's 'Trollololololollllllllll' about that? The video clearly shows a more satisfying experience on Trinity than ivybridge.

 

[Lonbjerg]

What's 'Trollololololollllllllll' about that? The video clearly shows a more satisfying experience on Trinity than ivybridge.

In a very limited segment.
Look at the sales figures.
A single light dosn't make the night go away.

 

[Dinkydau]

Of course AMD is still relevant. Look at the prices of intel's server CPUs, then look at the prices of AMD's server CPUs. Look at all those folding@home freaks who have dual- or quad-cpu systems with opteron CPUs. Look at cray:
http://www.cray.com/xe/AMD/

 

[ShintaiDK]

Of course AMD is still relevant. Look at the prices of intel's server CPUs, then look at the prices of AMD's server CPUs. Look at all those folding@home freaks who have dual- or quad-cpu systems with opteron CPUs. Look at cray:
http://www.cray.com/xe/AMD/

1 out of 20 uses AMD there....

AMD is irreleveant today in the performance/server/enthutiast segments. And they are really struggling in the mainstream. But they can do quite well in the value segment (OR essentials as AMD calls it.). And thats where Rory is focusing it now.

Maybe the last FX CPU on that roadmap as well.

 

[futurefields]

What's 'Trollololololollllllllll' about that? The video clearly shows a more satisfying experience on Trinity than ivybridge.

Oh really? What's your sample data? A crowd of fanboi's at an AMD conference?

Read my comments on that video. I'm the guy named futurefields. That will show you how I feel about AMD.

They are a ridiculous company, hilarious how they buy ATi and now they are a "great graphics company known for their legendary graphics" lol...

Good luck man.

 

[Vesku]

Brazos 2.0 is their emergency stopgap resulting from canceling the first iteration of 28nm Brazos replacement. 28nm rollout has been too slow for bottom tier APU to be profitable, so they punted.

 

[Don Karnage]

What's 'Trollololololollllllllll' about that? The video clearly shows a more satisfying experience on Trinity than ivybridge.

Why should I care about integrated graphics again?

 

[piesquared]

In a very limited segment.
Look at the sales figures.
A single light dosn't make the night go away.

Sales figures are completely irrelevant, and as we've seen many many times in the past involving intel, has nothing to do with technical merit or consumer appeal. I'm not advocating for IntEl or their shareholders. If AMD is irrelevant with products that give consumers a better user experience at a lower price, then that simply screams more monopolistic market abuse by a company with a fear of competition.

 

[gevorg]

was CNET ever relevent in making these kind of calls? :whiste:

 

[futurefields]

Why should I care about integrated graphics again?

AMD's target market is the bottom feeder.

"I just want the cheapest computer that will run WoW and D3 @ 30-40fps"

And that's fine.. that's what they are there for. I just think it's hilarious when people try to act as though they are still somehow competitive with Intel.

The fact is Intel could put AMD out of business. They could easily price their chips even less, and just completely annihilate the price/performance benchmark, more than they do already. Intel *let's* AMD survive.

 

[piesquared]

Oh really? What's your sample data? A crowd of fanboi's at an AMD conference?

Read my comments on that video. I'm the guy named futurefields. That will show you how I feel about AMD.

They are a ridiculous company, hilarious how they buy ATi and now they are a "great graphics company known for their legendary graphics" lol...

Good luck man.

You're the guy named futurefields in the comments? Oh good thanks for tip, never would have guessed othewise.

Sample data? lol Go bang your head on concrete for a few minutes.


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[Homeles]

AMD's target market is the bottom feeder.

"I just want the cheapest computer that will run WoW and D3 @ 30-40fps"

And that's fine.. that's what they are there for. I just think it's hilarious when people try to act as though they are still somehow competitive with Intel.

The fact is Intel could put AMD out of business. They could easily price their chips even less, and just completely annihilate the price/performance benchmark, more than they do already. Intel *let's* AMD survive.

Of course they do. Intel would get the government hammer if AMD disappeared.

 

[piesquared]

AMD's target market is the bottom feeder.

"I just want the cheapest computer that will run WoW and D3 @ 30-40fps"

And that's fine.. that's what they are there for. I just think it's hilarious when people try to act as though they are still somehow competitive with Intel.

The fact is Intel could put AMD out of business. They could easily price their chips even less, and just completely annihilate the price/performance benchmark, more than they do already. Intel *let's* AMD survive.

Speaking of Trololololllllllllll's

 

[futurefields]

Of course they do. Intel would get the government hammer if AMD disappeared.

Absolutely. So I don't know why anyone thinks there is a real performance competition going on here.

 

[futurefields]

Speaking of Trololololllllllllll's

You say stuff that is flat out incorrect man. You need some help, like a real serious reality check. Go look at some benchmarks.

Download a free to try audio program like REAPER and compare how many audio plugins you can run on the slowest i5 compared to the fastest AMD bulldozer before your cpu starts to choke.

You will see what a joke AMD's architecture is.

 

[Schmide]

Since this thread is going to hell in a handbasket. I'll say it.

LOL_Wut_Axel stops posting and futurefields takes over at that time. I wish I had access to the IP access lists.

 

[piesquared]

You say stuff that is flat out incorrect man. You need some help, like a real serious reality check. Go look at some benchmarks.

Download a free to try audio program like REAPER and compare how many audio plugins you can run on the slowest i5 compared to the fastest AMD bulldozer before your cpu starts to choke.

You will see what a joke AMD's architecture is.

Consumers could care less about benchmarks, they are meaningless. They're only relevant to the shrinking online benchmarking addicts. Consumers care about user experience and how they interact with their devices on a daily bases. If their system gives them off the chart SuperPi numbers but stumbles and stutters in a game they like to play, do you honestly believe they would give a rats ass about the benchmark? If benchmarking is your holy grail, run some OpenCl or C++ AMP compiled benchmarks. Benchmarking can give you any number of different results.