CM 212+ mounting question

[LuluTheMonk]

I just mounted the 212+ onto my 2600k. The cooler can still twist and turn even though all 4 screws cannot be tightened anymore. Is this normal?

 

[theAnimal]

Mine was the same.

 

[Anomaly1964]

Mine was the same.

Ditto, a BIT of play in mine too...but not concerned, good temps.

 

[Slammy1]

Mine's the same, I'm a bit concerned but haven't fully tested it yet. I'd say about 10-15 degree twistability, it'll be a while before I trust it.

 

[Hogan773]

Mine's the same, I'm a bit concerned but haven't fully tested it yet. I'd say about 10-15 degree twistability, it'll be a while before I trust it.

Mine can twist also about 10-15 degrees. But I think its definitely not moving VERTICALLY so its making good contact with the CPU....just rotating a bit with the thermal paste acting to allow it to slide

 

[LuluTheMonk]

Thanks, Looks like with my 2600k, OC to 4.2 using OC Genie on my MSI GD65, mid 40's idle, high 60's and touches 70 occasionally with prime95 running. Sound reasonable?

 

[Hogan773]

Thanks, Looks like with my 2600k, OC to 4.2 using OC Genie on my MSI GD65, mid 40's idle, high 60's and touches 70 occasionally with prime95 running. Sound reasonable?

My 2600K is OCed to 4.2ghz and idles at 25-30C, under Prime 95 runs in the 50-55C range. This is with Hyper 212+. My VCore is at 1.22 area. Maybe your "OC Genie" is running it at much higher voltage? Or maybe I just have a case with more airflow. Not sure why the big difference in temps.

 

[LuluTheMonk]

OC Genie has it set to 1.35 I think. However my system reported ambient is 33-35.

 

[Hogan773]

OC Genie has it set to 1.35 I think. However my system reported ambient is 33-35.

Alrighty then.....95 degrees Farenheit. I guess you keep your home office a tad bit warmer than I prefer

 

[LuluTheMonk]

Hmmm, not sure what is going on now, but I tried using this guide:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to-overclock-the-intel-core-i5-2500k/5

Declocked my RAM to 1333 from 1600 for the time being.

So am no longer using OC Genie.

At 4.5 GHz running Prime95 for 30+ minutes:

VCore: 1.285
CPU IO (VCCIO): 1.17V
System Agent Voltage (VCCSA): 1.185V

Disabed C1E Support, Limit CPUID Maximum, Power Technology and OverSpeed Protection
I have the fan set to 75% with a target of 60 degrees

Everything seems stable so far, however, I think I would like to utilize the speed step technology, and would prefer to have my CPU at 1600 when idling, and spin up to 4.5 on load. What do I need to do differently to achieve this?

 

[zi0n.]

Mine did when I first mounted it, then I started to get cpu led errors so I unmounted and mounted it again, now it doesn't even move! Now..... I'm pretty sure when my p67 replacement gets here it's gonna be a pain in the a$$ again.

 

[Hogan773]

Hmmm, not sure what is going on now, but I tried using this guide:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/01/07/how-to-overclock-the-intel-core-i5-2500k/5

Declocked my RAM to 1333 from 1600 for the time being.

So am no longer using OC Genie.

At 4.5 GHz running Prime95 for 30+ minutes:

VCore: 1.285
CPU IO (VCCIO): 1.17V
System Agent Voltage (VCCSA): 1.185V

Disabed C1E Support, Limit CPUID Maximum, Power Technology and OverSpeed Protection
I have the fan set to 75% with a target of 60 degrees

Everything seems stable so far, however, I think I would like to utilize the speed step technology, and would prefer to have my CPU at 1600 when idling, and spin up to 4.5 on load. What do I need to do differently to achieve this?

This seems too complicated. You shouldn't need to turn off C1E etc etc. All I did on mine was change the multiplier and the voltage. I chose to use offset voltage MINUS 0.05 which runs around 1.22-1.24 at load at 42X.

 

[Username455]

Sorry this is somewhat of an old thread,

I just built two computers using the cm 212+ on a core i5 2500k. One of them is rock solid (although a few degrees crooked for whatever reason). The other twists back and forth like the OP mentioned.

Could this be from too much thermal paste? Or, and I havent actually looked yet, could the bracket be placed on wrong. I know there is a small piece of metal coming up from the heat sink that locks the braket in place.. Maybe I missed that little piece?

And if that is the case and I remove the braket, would I need to remove and clean the heat sink? At the moment however both stay at 60 @ full load.

 

[dwightdegroff]

I have had mixed experiences.

My previous build: LGA 775 did not have any play in the CM 212+

When I upgraded to LGA 1155, the MSI board I initially purchased had play in the cooler similar to what you have described. The MSI board had to be RMA'd as it was defective. I replaced it with an ASUS board, and the CM 212+ has no play after being installed in this latest board. Perhaps the motherboards have differing thicknesses?

 

[dma0991]

I have had mixed experiences.

My previous build: LGA 775 did not have any play in the CM 212+

When I upgraded to LGA 1155, the MSI board I initially purchased had play in the cooler similar to what you have described. The MSI board had to be RMA'd as it was defective. I replaced it with an ASUS board, and the CM 212+ has no play after being installed in this latest board. Perhaps the motherboards have differing thicknesses?

I have tried mounting a CM Hyper212+ before and it does not make sense that the thickness of the motherboard would play a role of having a degree of play with it. There are sort of bolts that would be screwed to the bracket and the X bracket would be screwed on the bolt. I think it has more to do with how tight you're willing to tighten and how viscous your TIM is.

 

[aigomorla]

Sorry this is somewhat of an old thread,

I just built two computers using the cm 212+ on a core i5 2500k. One of them is rock solid (although a few degrees crooked for whatever reason). The other twists back and forth like the OP mentioned.

Could this be from too much thermal paste? Or, and I havent actually looked yet, could the bracket be placed on wrong. I know there is a small piece of metal coming up from the heat sink that locks the braket in place.. Maybe I missed that little piece?

And if that is the case and I remove the braket, would I need to remove and clean the heat sink? At the moment however both stay at 60 @ full load.

welcome to AT.

To answer your question it could also be the state in which the paste is at.
When paste is cooled, it gets hard, sometimes bonds to the sink and IHS.

When it gets heated up, its oil based, so it will get viscous, and should twist around.

Also the age will effect paste in general.


Common myth is that the paste needs to cover the entire IHS.
IHS being the metal cover ontop of your cpu, where u see the words intel printed and such.

This is a myth, you only need paste over the die location.
The IHS is nowhere near complicated to distribute heat evenly thoughout the entire IHS.

So this is why the Rice grain method is always the best method, as it usually will get the entire die area under the IHS, and not give you too much paste.

And having too much paste is bad.
Paste is not as efficient as metal, so having too much paste, would be like, you insulating between the sinks, then you filling the microgaps.

Paste is better then air tho, dont get me wrong... but paste is meant mostly for metal to metal air micro gaps.

The spacers to fill in the macro gap are usually called Pads.

 

[MadScientist]

This has been discussed here a few times before. The CM Hyper 212+ is an HDT cooler. The single rice grain size drop method does not work well for this type of cooler. The channels between the heat pipes and the mounting base should be filled in first. The CM Hyper 212+ has deep channels. I found that the double line on the center mounting base partitions method in the benchmarkreviews article worked best for my CM Hyper 212+ cooler. It twists, but only a few degrees left or right.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=38&limit=1&limitstart=5