Clone NTFS

NJLOAD

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How do I clone Win XP pro from one NTFS drive to a Larger NTFS drive? I am under the impression that Ghost only works with Fat32 drives because it has to use DOS.

Any help is appreciated.

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NJLOAD

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Can you verify if XP can be copied to another drive or if it has to be cloned? I thought I read in another post somewhere on these forums that you have to clone XP it can't be copied. Something about some files will not copy over.

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went from a 30GB Maxtor XP setup to a 160GB Maxtor(my current setup been using since Nov 2k3) using Maxtor's utilities CD..went from a 40GB Maxtor XP setup to a 120GB WD using WD's DLG tools ..went from a 60GB Maxtor XP setup to a 160GB WD using WD DLG tools..guess you should have no trouble doing so(all XP should be using sp1 or better before migrating to greater than 120 tho)..gl :)
 

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Ok. I'm going from a 40gig Maxtor to a 160gig Maxtor. The 160gig came with Maxtors tools I guess the newest version on a CD ROM, I guess I will try using that when I get home from work. I just thought I saw somewhere in the O/S forums that XP had to be cloned to a new drive.

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Clone/migrate same thing :) just make sure you have sp1 or better installed and there should be no issues moving from smaller hd to a larger hd all else remaining the same. Like I'd said ..did this back in Nov 2k3 with my current setup(still have the 30 GB in the 160 box incase of trouble..;)) and had no issues doing the deed. I also suggest having a decent battery backup as the process is not quick(think it took 2-3 hrs..but memory fuzzy on that).
 

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No problem, I just updated with SP2 last night.............Just want to make sure everything goes smooth. On your 160 gig did you have to make two partitions? or will SP2 format and be able to use the whole 160 gig? As of now mine is partitioned into two drives one around 120 gig and the other around 40 some gigs.

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Originally posted by: NJLOAD
No problem, I just updated with SP2 last night.............Just want to make sure everything goes smooth. On your 160 gig did you have to make two partitions? or will SP2 format and be able to use the whole 160 gig? As of now mine is partitioned into two drives one around 120 gig and the other around 40 some gigs.

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there might be a problem(last time tried using 2 or more partitions then migrating to a bigger drive was a 3.2GB to a 40GB ..was a failure..OS was 98 and some version of Linux..all the stuffz got jumbled..after showing by Maxtor as being a success:p this 3 yrs ago tho)
sp2 will be able to address 160GB as one partition ..not sure on 2 or more..if you attempt plz reply back to this thread if you would on your results..tia <edit>
As of now mine is partitioned into two drives one around 120 gig and the other around 40 some gigs.
you will be migrating from this or to it..?
 

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I will be going from the 40 gig single partition drive to the 160 gig (2) partitioned drive. If this is possible.
 

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Originally posted by: NJLOAD
I will be going from the 40 gig single partition drive to the 160 gig (2) partitioned drive. If this is possible.

from the 40 single to the 120GB partition..yes..to the 40GB partition..no ..you can always move into a bigger partition which is a good idea ..from a big partition to a smaller isn't
 

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I was planning on just using the smaller partition for data files. Going to put O/S on the larger partition. Or I might just Use SP2 and reformat the drive to the 160gig. Not sure yet.

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Ok, that did not work. I used Maxtor MaxBlast 3 utilities to copy my 40 gig working XP Pro setup to my new (2) partitioined 160 gig drive and when I disconnected the 40 gig and tried to boot to the new drive it loads to the welcome to windows blue screen and locks. I tried to disconnect everything on the machine except for the video card and it still locks. I then thought maybe it didn't like the partitioned drive so I have SP2 on the working drive and reformatted it to the full 160 gig and did another disk copy and still got no results, locks at the blue welcome screen.

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Lifer
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might be an sp2 problem as well..noticed when I upgraded a Dell 4550 from sp1 to sp2 that it took a long time on eyeballing the pid(product id= XP key). Very interesting ..wonder if placing the XP CD in with the new 160GB(single partition) and doing a repair or Recovery Console would bring it around..hope it works out tho and gl :) <edit> the Blue Welcome Screen..had no error messages..? then its most likely a pid/sp2 issue..
 

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I would like to give this a try, instead of doing a clean install on the new drive. The Recovery Console is all command line...............what would you use to try to repair this blue screen with no message lock-up?

I did a Chkdsk /p and found nothing already...........

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Originally posted by: NJLOAD
I would like to give this a try, instead of doing a clean install on the new drive. The Recovery Console is all command line...............what would you use to try to repair this blue screen with no message lock-up?

I did a Chkdsk /p and found nothing already...........

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NJLOAD

you can CHKDSK /R, FIXMBR, FIXBOOT and BOOTCFG /Rebuild from recovery console as well as /help I believe ..gl ..I'm still thinking it is an sp2 issue but haven't had time to experiment lately ..
 

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I will try these when I get home from work. I think the only one I didn't do is BOOTCFG.........Is there a way to convert back to Fat32 format on hard drives? I would really like to try GHOST but the version I have requires DOS mode and does not like NTFS file system.
 

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Originally posted by: NJLOAD
I will try these when I get home from work. I think the only one I didn't do is BOOTCFG.........Is there a way to convert back to Fat32 format on hard drives? I would really like to try GHOST but the version I have requires DOS mode and does not like NTFS file system.

you'll need at least Ghost 2k3 w/update2 to do ntsf..converting ntsf to fat32 isn't a good idea ..read some and more
 

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I wrote a post [link below] that will fix the problem you ran into. I ran into the same thing. It's because windows associates the unique ID of your old drive as C:, and the new one as G: or whatever. Follow the instructions I gave and it will fix that, even if you already have cleared off your old drive.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&amp;threadid=1392519

Scoll down the bolded text "What to if you get to the Login/Welcom Screen and there are no user accounts present". Hope it helps.