Clock switching twice a year could potentially end

Red Squirrel

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This is great news. Hope this bill passes. People have been asking this for ages, it seems like governments are finally considering it. I don't care which one they pick, just pick one, and stick with it!

 
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We have a clock tower but it was hit by lightning years ago, they've been trying to raise money to get it repaired.

They've been paying a guy to go manually move the hands every 15 minutes. The guy can tell you what time it is just based on the position of sun, moon and stars. He used to actually base it off the bus routes until he found out the buses were basing their routes off the clock. Everyone started getting in to work late.
 

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We have a clock tower but it was hit by lightning years ago, they've been trying to raise money to get it repaired.

They've been paying a guy to go manually move the hands every 15 minutes. The guy can tell you what time it is just based on the position of sun, moon and stars. He used to actually base it off the bus routes until he found out the buses were basing their routes off the clock. Everyone started getting in to work late.

Marty?
 

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Yeah, wish they'd stop this palavar of faffing about with the clocks every year. I don't see the point of it. We aren't all subsistence farmers. It seems such a waste of effort. I don't mind whether they stick with 'daylight saving time' all year or with, er, 'normal time', just pick one and stick with it.

 

Red Squirrel

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Yeah, wish they'd stop this palavar of faffing about with the clocks every year. I don't see the point of it. We aren't all subsistence farmers. It seems such a waste of effort. I don't mind whether they stick with 'daylight saving time' all year or with, er, 'normal time', just pick one and stick with it.



This needs to be an actual movie. Should play the movie in theatres twice a year. Make it at 2:00am on the day we change the clocks.
 

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Oh, wow, till just now had no idea Europe was thinking of scrapping it as well.


Though sounds like another thing 2020 has messed up - the pandemic means it's all been put on hold.

Didn't know before that the whole business started in WW1 Germany.
 

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Oh, wow, till just now had no idea Europe was thinking of scrapping it as well.


Though sounds like another thing 2020 has messed up - the pandemic means it's all been put on hold.

Didn't know before that the whole business started in WW1 Germany.

huh.

we should be able to convince the Brexiteers that the non-EU UK needs to adopt 4 time changes per year, because it would be another way to differentiate themselves from the evil EU.

I think they'd support it, and it would totally be worth it.
 
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Red Squirrel

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Yeah I honestly don't see it happen this year, since all these articles seem to hint at "might". the good news is the fact that it's at least on the table though, so I really hope it does go through sooner rather than later. There is practically no benefits of this anymore. The disadvantages such as affecting mental health are worse than any little benefit that there are. It's pitch black before/after work either way in winter, so not much that can be done about that other than making workdays in winter 6 hours. I would not be against that. :p It seems to come fast too, once September rolls around it's like bam, no more light before/after work.
 

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Yeah I honestly don't see it happen this year, since all these articles seem to hint at "might". the good news is the fact that it's at least on the table though, so I really hope it does go through sooner rather than later. There is practically no benefits of this anymore. The disadvantages such as affecting mental health are worse than any little benefit that there are. It's pitch black before/after work either way in winter, so not much that can be done about that other than making workdays in winter 6 hours. I would not be against that. :p It seems to come fast too, once September rolls around it's like bam, no more light before/after work.

I still can't figure out if it ever had any positive value at all. Given that it came out of Kaiser Bill's Germany, and that guy was famously a Trump-style buffoon with obvious mental issues, presiding over a rule-bound dysfunctional culture, it seems possible it always was a lousy idea.

There must have been such a lot of unnecessary accidents and missed appointments and wasted time at every switch, over the century since.
 

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huh.

we should be able to convince the Brexiteers that the non-EU UK needs to adopt 4 time changes per year, because it would be another way to differentiate themselves from the evil EU.

I think they'd support it, and it would totally be worth it.

Well they've already attempted to put the calendar back 40 years, what's a few more hours?
 

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Yeah, wish they'd stop this palavar of faffing about with the clocks every year. I don't see the point of it. We aren't all subsistence farmers. It seems such a waste of effort. I don't mind whether they stick with 'daylight saving time' all year or with, er, 'normal time', just pick one and stick with it.


I'm actually running a bunch of tests at work for daylight savings time software transitions right now. We have to do this on most of our products. Its introduces tons of potential for errors. Its not that easy to code of course because time is linear and no amount of horseshit legislation can make it otherwise.

The US actually did something worse than nothing...they changed the times it happened at least once in the mid 2000s. Basically forcing a bunch of pointless software changes and work for no reason.
 

snoopy7548

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We should just set the clocks forward an hour at 4p.m. every weekday, and then back five hours Sunday morning to make up for it.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I'm actually running a bunch of tests at work for daylight savings time software transitions right now. We have to do this on most of our products. Its introduces tons of potential for errors. Its not that easy to code of course because time is linear and no amount of horseshit legislation can make it otherwise.

The US actually did something worse than nothing...they changed the times it happened at least once in the mid 2000s. Basically forcing a bunch of pointless software changes and work for no reason.

Yeah that was Bush I think. He could have been the best president ever if he chose to abolish it instead of moving it. There was zero logic to moving it, it just messed up lot of software. It does generate OT at my work though, since we need to change the DMS10s manually.
 

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We need to stay on the current time. This was useful years ago but we no longer need this. Just causes too many issues plus having more daylight never hurt the mindset unlike the darkness has.
 

HomerJS

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This needs to be an actual movie. Should play the movie in theatres twice a year. Make it at 2:00am on the day we change the clocks.
Could be the next Ricky Horror. Change the movie every year using the DST premise.


I have one question. What would be the movie showtime? If it's 1am is that two showings since 1am happens twice?
 

Artorias

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Thank fuck. It screws up my internal sleep cycle every time. Could we just stick to the original time, you know the one that everyone followed for thousands of years?
 

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It screws up my internal sleep cycle every time. Could we just stick to the original time, you know the one that everyone followed for thousands of years?
The problem was there were thousands of times then. Travel from one location to another and the clocks were all set differently (if they had clocks at all). Every town, every county, every state, every country could muck with the time zones and many did. At one point there were about 300 time zones in the US. The railroads had so many problems that they reduced it down to 100. Compared to that, I'm happy with the half dozen time zones in the US that occasionally change to daylight saving time.

I personally argue that the best option now would be 2 time zones in the continental US (Mountain and Central) and ditch standard time (keeping daylight saving time all year round).
 

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The problem was there were thousands of times then. Travel from one location to another and the clocks were all set differently (if they had clocks at all). Every town, every county, every state, every country could muck with the time zones and many did. At one point there were about 300 time zones in the US. The railroads had so many problems that they reduced it down to 100. Compared to that, I'm happy with the half dozen time zones in the US that occasionally change to daylight saving time.

I personally argue that the best option now would be 2 time zones in the continental US (Mountain and Central) and ditch standard time (keeping daylight saving time all year round).

I was also thinking about how dumb the 12 hour clock is. It should be a 24 hour clock in the digital age.