Clinton's Syria Policy

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I thought we were talking about the general population, not representatives. If you want to talk just representatives look no further than the GOP primary debates. It's quite clear that most of the Republicans that voted no to Libya would have voted yes had it been a GOP President pushing for it. Meanwhile, 70 Democrats did vote against it even though it was their President pushing for it, so can you at least admit that those 70 might have the best interests of our nation in mind?
Spin...all spin and your imagination. If you look closely in front of you, you'll notice the inner surface of a huge bubble.
 
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I'll be sure to vote for the GOP so we won't have any more needless war.
No...instead vote for Hillary who has no issues flirting with WWIII by establishing a no-fly zone over Syria when Russia is actively using that airspace to defend their ally. Even Trump isn't that stupid.
 

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No...instead vote for Hillary who has no issues flirting with WWIII by establishing a no-fly zone over Syria when Russia is actively using that airspace to defend their ally. Even Trump isn't that stupid.

Really apparently she wants to do battle with the two most powerful forces in Syria. Attack ISIS and Assad, leaving what...... an intense and abiding hatred amongst all parties in Syria for the United States and all out anarchy. Really.... why don't we just carpet bomb the country and let God sort 'em out? I am developing a hatred that is almost pathological for neo-cons. By the time these idiots are done, Europe will be in flames.


But Hillary Clinton’s expected choice as Defence Secretary, Michèle Flournoy, has just co-authored a report by the Centre for a New American Security (CNAS) in Washington that recommends that the destruction of Isis should no longer be the overriding objective of the US in Syria, but that equal priority should be given to taking military action against President Bashar al-Assad and the Syrian Army. A new pro-US armed opposition would be built up to fight Assad, Isis, al-Nusra and other al-Qaeda clones, a process that the report admits could take years – and “during that time the dangers posed by Isis will remain”. This is not a marginal opinion among hawks in Washington, as a recently leaked memo from 51 serving State Department officials argued very much the same thing.


A new "pro-US armed opposition"..... ROFLMFAO!!! Jesus fucking Christ, where have I heard that before? (I think this meme started with Osama Bin Laden being the first "pro-US armed opposition"). 150 IQ or better and still functionally retarded or just corrupted beyond redemption from dirty Saudi money.....
 
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Nice diversion...but the reality here is that Democrats overwhelming supported military interventions in Libya and Syria while Republicans did not.

Libya
http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/493

Syria
Although there was no formal vote, Republications were largely against intervention in Syria.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...93a858-155c-11e3-804b-d3a1a3a18f2c_story.html

Not only that, instead of helping Syrian government fight against Terrorists ISis they helped Syrian rebels against the Syrian government and also Democrats and Obama/Crooked Hilary run away cowardly from Irak living our troops wreak and American interests in the region at the disposal of the terrorist ISL. Isis is a product of war in Irak and then worse than that Obama/crooked Hilary withdraw most our troops from Irak living the region free for the ISIS to grow and spread to Syria.
So you can safely say ISIS is a product of Obama/crooked Hilary.
 
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Not only that, instead of helping Syrian government fight against Terrorists ISA they helped Syrian rebels against the Syrian government and also Democrats and Obama/Crooked Hilary run away cowardly from Irak living our troops wreak and American interests in the region at the disposal of the terrorist ISL.

Our troops aren't there anymore. That was a good move and I approve of it. American kids are not expendable material to be wasted on lost causes. American treasure is not limitless and is best not wasted on unwinnable wars.
 

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Our troops aren't there anymore. That was a good move and I approve of it. American kids are not expendable material to be wasted on lost causes. American treasure is not limitless and is best not wasted on unwinnable wars.

I agree 100%, but if America was responsible for invading Irak and creating ISIS, America should also responsible for cleaning the mess behind,Remember ISIS are sending their terrorist troops all over the planet to kill everybody indescriminating
 
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Whether it be Clinton or Trump, new wars are imminent.

There was a recent non-scientific poll of service members about which candidate they prefer and Gary Johnson got more of the 3.5k votes than Shillary or Drumpf

I'd like to see a scientific poll on the same question.

It shows that the people who are most affected by unnecessary military actions would rather not have them. Perhaps the American people can learn from that....

for some reason I doubt it.



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I agree 100%, but if America was responsible for invading Irak and creating ISIS, America should also responsible for cleaning the mess behind,

Nope, fuck that. When America attempts to clean up a mess over there, WITHOUT FAIL we make it worse. Time to admit failure and just get out. Let them figure it out for themselves. Time to quit trying to pick winners. Time to quit bombing and shooting. With all the "help" we have given them, why are we the most loathed nation over there (perhaps surpassing Israel)? Perhaps they don't want us cleaning up messes by bombing them?
 
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I agree 100%, but if America was responsible for invading Irak and creating ISIS, America should also responsible for cleaning the mess behind,Remember ISIS are sending their terrorist troops all over tghe planet to kill everybody with no distinction,
We left Iraq well armed. They need to learn to defend themselves or succumb to those who will.

We should have never intervened in the first place, we gave them billions and billions to rebuild and have spilled enough of our blood on their soil. Enough is enough.
 

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There was a recent non-scientific poll of service members about which candidate they prefer and Gary Johnson got more of the 3.5k votes than Shillary or Drumpf

I'd like to see a scientific poll on the same question.

It shows that the people who are most affected by unnecessary military actions would rather not have them. Perhaps the American people can learn from that....

for some reason I doubt it.


Military purpose is to defend our Country and are necessary,not to defend or intervene in other countries unless they are invaded by other country.
even for that there should be a strong NATO to do that job with the contribution of all the member country's.
 

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We left Iraq well armed. They need to learn to defend themselves or succumb to those who will.

We should have never intervened in the first place, we gave them billions and billions to rebuild and have spilled enough of our blood on their soil. Enough is enough.

Well Armed? but a weak army and weak government,majority of people in Irak don't approve IRAK government,and fight against it with the help of ISIS.
 

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Well Armed? but a weak army and weak government,majority of people in Irak don't approve IRAK government,and fight against it with the help of ISIS.

So you are a neo-con. You should vote for Hillary. I am sure she will have troops back in Iraq within 4 years. More American boys chewed up in a meaningless meat-grinder and more billions spent to prop up a government that is a wholly owned subsidiary of Iran. Why should Iran spend their blood and their capital when we will do it for free?

Seriously dude, you have the same playbook as Hillary. Just vote for her. She will do the things you want America to do. She will bomb the Middle East into prosperity.
 

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Military purpose is to defend our Country and are necessary,not to defend or intervene in other countries unless they are invaded by other country.
even for that there should be a strong NATO to do that job with the contribution of all the member country's.

I don't believe I said anything different.....


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Every military adventure over there builds up new hate, breeds new terrorists and fosters instability.

I thought that was the master plan all along this decade, Instability created by economic, Terrorist and overthrown governments around the Mediterranean and Midle East.