Clinton Vows "No Safe Harbor" for USS Cole Attackers

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lozina
Weren't there several attacks foiled during Clinton's administration? LAX and millenium to name a few?

Ayup. And the capture of the Al Qaeda member in Port Angeles, WA led to uncovering Al Qaeda cells in Montreal and Jordan.

Uh - nope. The LAX bombing was LUCK - and had nothing to do with Clinton or Clarkes little "Shake the trees" plan. Unless ofcourse you are calling Janet Reno a liar.

Yes, by luck catching the guy led to further cells being discovered but they would have had nothing without luck and an alert Ms. Dean.

CkG

Of course it's luck, captain obvious. But luck doesn't happen by itself. Clinton administration committed the resources on the millenium, and one of those resources was lucky. If they didn't try, luck would not have helped them.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lozina
Weren't there several attacks foiled during Clinton's administration? LAX and millenium to name a few?

Ayup. And the capture of the Al Qaeda member in Port Angeles, WA led to uncovering Al Qaeda cells in Montreal and Jordan.

Uh - nope. The LAX bombing was LUCK - and had nothing to do with Clinton or Clarkes little "Shake the trees" plan. Unless ofcourse you are calling Janet Reno a liar.

Yes, by luck catching the guy led to further cells being discovered but they would have had nothing without luck and an alert Ms. Dean.

CkG

Still beating dead horses, eh, CkG?

Nope -that would be you beating a dead horse conjur. You keep trying to state it was more than it was. I'll call you on it every time too.

CkG

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lozina
Weren't there several attacks foiled during Clinton's administration? LAX and millenium to name a few?

Ayup. And the capture of the Al Qaeda member in Port Angeles, WA led to uncovering Al Qaeda cells in Montreal and Jordan.

Uh - nope. The LAX bombing was LUCK - and had nothing to do with Clinton or Clarkes little "Shake the trees" plan. Unless ofcourse you are calling Janet Reno a liar.

Yes, by luck catching the guy led to further cells being discovered but they would have had nothing without luck and an alert Ms. Dean.

CkG

Still beating dead horses, eh, CkG?

Nope -that would be you beating a dead horse conjur. You keep trying to state it was more than it was. I'll call you on it every time too.

CkG

I'm doing no such thing.

I was merely pointing out one of the ways the Clinton Administration uncovered additional cells. They could have just prosecuted that guy and been done with it but they investigated further and found cells in Montreal and in Jordan that were planning attacks.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lozina
Weren't there several attacks foiled during Clinton's administration? LAX and millenium to name a few?

Ayup. And the capture of the Al Qaeda member in Port Angeles, WA led to uncovering Al Qaeda cells in Montreal and Jordan.

Uh - nope. The LAX bombing was LUCK - and had nothing to do with Clinton or Clarkes little "Shake the trees" plan. Unless ofcourse you are calling Janet Reno a liar.

Yes, by luck catching the guy led to further cells being discovered but they would have had nothing without luck and an alert Ms. Dean.

CkG

Still beating dead horses, eh, CkG?

Nope -that would be you beating a dead horse conjur. You keep trying to state it was more than it was. I'll call you on it every time too.

CkG

I'm doing no such thing.

I was merely pointing out one of the ways the Clinton Administration uncovered additional cells. They could have just prosecuted that guy and been done with it but they investigated further and found cells in Montreal and in Jordan that were planning attacks.

Yet you agreed with lozina on the LAX story. Didn't Reno put that notion to rest? Thought so...

CkG

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lozina
Weren't there several attacks foiled during Clinton's administration? LAX and millenium to name a few?

Ayup. And the capture of the Al Qaeda member in Port Angeles, WA led to uncovering Al Qaeda cells in Montreal and Jordan.

Uh - nope. The LAX bombing was LUCK - and had nothing to do with Clinton or Clarkes little "Shake the trees" plan. Unless ofcourse you are calling Janet Reno a liar.

Yes, by luck catching the guy led to further cells being discovered but they would have had nothing without luck and an alert Ms. Dean.

CkG

Still beating dead horses, eh, CkG?

Nope -that would be you beating a dead horse conjur. You keep trying to state it was more than it was. I'll call you on it every time too.

CkG

I'm doing no such thing.

I was merely pointing out one of the ways the Clinton Administration uncovered additional cells. They could have just prosecuted that guy and been done with it but they investigated further and found cells in Montreal and in Jordan that were planning attacks.

Yet you agreed with lozina on the LAX story. Didn't Reno put that notion to rest? Thought so...

CkG

I answered "Ayup" to the first question posed by lozina.

Sorry, CkG...you can unwad your panties now.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Clinton Vows "No Safe Harbor" for USS Cole Attackers

In a ship-side ceremony commemorating the 17 young American men and women "standing guard for peace," who died in a terrorist attack on the USS Cole, President Clinton said the spirit of those honored today "must surely confound the minds of the hate-filled terrorists who killed them....To those who attacked them we say, you will not find a safe harbor. We will find you. And justice will prevail."

Speaking October 18 in Norfolk, Virginia, at a ceremony attended by members of Congress and the Cabinet, leaders of the U.S. armed services, and Secretary of Defense William Cohen, as well as USS Cole crew members injured in the attack and family members of the killed and injured, Clinton said of the victims that "All these very different Americans, all with their different stories, their lifelines and their love ties, answered the same call of service and found themselves on the USS Cole headed for the Persian Gulf where our forces are working to keep peace and stability in a region that could explode and disrupt the entire world."

Listing the lost crew members by name, Clinton recalled that some of them followed the family tradition of Navy service, others were bound for college, and one of them had worked for him in the White House. "In the names and faces of those we lost and mourn," he said, "the world sees our nation's greatest strength -- people in uniform rooted in every race, creed and region on the face of the earth, yet bound together by a common commitment to freedom and a common pride in being American."

He said "That same spirit is living today as the crew of the USS Cole pulls together in a determined struggle to keep the determined warrior afloat....Their tragic loss reminds us that even when America is not at war, the men and women of our military still risk their lives for peace."



Clearly, Clinton thought we were not at war after the attacks on our interests/citizens in East Africa, Saudi Arabia, New York, Saudi Arabia, Qatar...he owes us all an apology.

of course he did not, that is why we did not see a dept of homeland security or a war on terror in 1993 when the same target(WTC) was attacked what we got instead was in 1995 rules that made it even harder to gather intelligence to combat such threats.

then again that would ahve been unpopular, and we all know the avg. democrat only will do what is popular.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I see the apologists are out in force today...too funny

There is nothing to apologize for. Bush dropped the ball on 9/11/2001, not Clinton.

you are right, clinton did not drop the ball on 9-1-1 he dropped it on 2-26-1993 and the following 7 YEARS afterward

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I see the apologists are out in force today...too funny

There is nothing to apologize for. Bush dropped the ball on 9/11/2001, not Clinton.

you are right, clinton did not drop the ball on 9-1-1 he dropped it on 2-26-1993 and the following 7 YEARS afterward

And we all knew Al Qaeda was a worldwide terror organization in 1993?

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I see the apologists are out in force today...too funny

There is nothing to apologize for. Bush dropped the ball on 9/11/2001, not Clinton.

you are right, clinton did not drop the ball on 9-1-1 he dropped it on 2-26-1993 and the following 7 YEARS afterward

And we all knew Al Qaeda was a worldwide terror organization in 1993?

It was certainly well know by the time the Sudan offered him to us in what was it 97 and 98. It is perfectly clear that the previous administration fumbled badly on this one. The current administration had a lot of trouble picking up that fumble. Unfortunately 9-11 happened before they could fix the broken policy they inherited. Honestly after watching the commision hearings it is painfully obvious that there is nothing of any consequence there. All the commision members attempts to pin some sort of sinister conspiracy of foreknowledge on the current administration have been weak and embarrassingly easy to refute. their attacks actually lack coherence in fact since they keep swinging form portraying the administration as bumbling and incompetent to sinister and having warnings and choosing to not warn the public. Far as I am concerned the whole commission is a big waste of time and money.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: NesuD

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I see the apologists are out in force today...too funny

There is nothing to apologize for. Bush dropped the ball on 9/11/2001, not Clinton.

you are right, clinton did not drop the ball on 9-1-1 he dropped it on 2-26-1993 and the following 7 YEARS afterward

And we all knew Al Qaeda was a worldwide terror organization in 1993?

It was certainly well know by the time the Sudan offered him to us in what was it 97 and 98. It is perfectly clear that the previous administration fumbled badly on this one. The current administration had a lot of trouble picking up that fumble. Unfortunately 9-11 happened before they could fix the broken policy they inherited. Honestly after watching the commision hearings it is painfully obvious that there is nothing of any consequence there. All the commision members attempts to pin some sort of sinister conspiracy of foreknowledge on the current administration have been weak and embarrassingly easy to refute. their attacks actually lack coherence in fact since they keep swinging form portraying the administration as bumbling and incompetent to sinister and having warnings and choosing to not warn the public. Far as I am concerned the whole commission is a big waste of time and money.

When will the Clinton-bashers/Bush-God fanboys realize that the Sudan did NOT offer bin Laden to us?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Well, John Galt wants to talk about Clinton Clinton Clinton. Maybe Clinton molested him with a cigar.

Because I believe that if Clinton would have taken us to war after the, say, 3rd attack, 9-11 might have been prevented....see how dumb your arguments sound now?

What do you consider the 3rd attack? The USS Cole? It wasn't until Jan. 27, 2001 that the CIA confirmed Al Qaeda was to blame. Bush was in the White House.


But, if you're saying you would have supported Clinton in a pre-emptive attack in removing the Taliban and destroying Al Qaeda, I'm with you!

Earth to xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx....yoo hooo....