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zendari

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Originally posted by: zendari
When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President?

I guess when you have such strong support, you're the 2nd sitting president since 1934 to pick up seats in midterm elections, the radical left is critisizing you! :laugh:

Didn't answer the question.
 

GroundedSailor

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The republicans hated Clinton for his popularity and and tried every which way to bring him down. They succeeded in moving the country more republican but his personal popularity remains high to this day. They still have not given up on the hatred they spread during his presidency.

It's time to move on. He's no longer a voice in any power play and he's entitled to his opinion as is every ex president.

Also it's absurd to accuse ANY ex president of hating America! Grow up.



 

Strk

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: zendari
I thought Presidents are usually reluctant to criticize their successors.

Not when it comes to recent democrats. The hatred runs deep and the American people see it for what it is worth.

Listen carefully, and you'll hear the sound of me playing the world's smallest violin for your pain.

Any Republican who claims with a straight face that Clinton received less "hatred" from his opposition than President Bush does is a liar or a fool or both. Clinton was constantly villified by both mundane and prominent Republicans, and indeed they tried their hardest to take away his presidency altogether.

It makes me wonder - and I honestly don't mean this as a dig - whether your youth prevents you from seeing this. You guys were both in junior high when Bush was elected, no? I think you've forgotten, or were unaware at the time, how searing the criticism of President Clinton was.

When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President? Link?

And Congressman John Conyers is working to impeach the president.

Where in his post does he talk about that? He made a general statement, which is impossible to deny.

Saying Clinton never received criticism is like saying, well, Bush never receives any. (And deserving depends on the person, yada yada..... don't want to give food for the fire here ;))
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: zendari
When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President?

I guess when you have such strong support, you're the 2nd sitting president since 1934 to pick up seats in midterm elections, the radical left is critisizing you! :laugh:

Didn't answer the question.

I don't know the answer, but I do know Bush is the lowest rated president since WW2 adside from Nixon! :laugh: I'm sure those additional seats picked up are looking at those numbers quite nervously....can you say "lame duck"? :laugh:

With numbers like that, EVERYONE must be bashing you! :laugh:
 

1EZduzit

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We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else

All the Clinton haters have to just be beside themselves. Clinton's right and the people know it.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Strk

Where in his post does he talk about that? He made a general statement, which is impossible to deny.

Saying Clinton never received criticism is like saying, well, Bush never receives any. (And deserving depends on the person, yada yada..... don't want to give food for the fire here ;))

It was the topic of mine and genx87's original statements.
 

Starbuck1975

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Well that may have been the reason, but we all know why the Republicans attempted to impeach Clinton...because he was a Democrat. The Democrats would have done the exact same thing if things were reversed. It was all about politics, the reason was just for us
Well we all know the Clinton impeachment fiaco was a partisan motivated attack on the Presidency, similar to what Bush has endured from the left.

Of course if our sitting Presidents would demonstrate the strength of character to make good judgments, the opposing side wouldn't have so much ammunition to use against them.

The republicans hated Clinton for his popularity and and tried every which way to bring him down. They succeeded in moving the country more republican but his personal popularity remains high to this day.
Everyone loves a playa, even if his game was trailer trash.
 

Engineer

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Question: Does anyone here think that the greatest spending GOP machine in the history of the US is going to cut spending to pay for the rebuilding effort of N.O.?

Should we borrow the money and repay later with interest or raise taxes now if no spending cuts?

Simple questions....
 
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Originally posted by: zendari

When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President? Link?

And Congressman John Conyers is working to impeach the president.

You haven't answered my concern. Are you seriously arguing that President Bush gets more heated criticism than President Clinton did?
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari

When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President? Link?

And Congressman John Conyers is working to impeach the president.

You haven't answered my concern. Are you seriously arguing that President Bush gets more heated criticism than President Clinton did?

Not at all, merely that I've read elsewhere that its rather unusual for a former President to be giving the criticism.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari

When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President? Link?

And Congressman John Conyers is working to impeach the president.

You haven't answered my concern. Are you seriously arguing that President Bush gets more heated criticism than President Clinton did?

Not at all, merely that I've read elsewhere that its rather unusual for a former President to be giving the criticism.

Clinton kept his lip zipped for almost five years now. IMO, he waited too long to criticize the imbecile that destroyed eight years of progress. As a matter of fact, Bush could hardly do any worse if he was an agent for a foreign government actually TRYING to ruin America.


 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: zendari

When did Bush I, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon criticize the Clinton administration after he became President? Link?

And Congressman John Conyers is working to impeach the president.

You haven't answered my concern. Are you seriously arguing that President Bush gets more heated criticism than President Clinton did?

Not at all, merely that I've read elsewhere that its rather unusual for a former President to be giving the criticism.

Clinton kept his lip zipped for almost five years now. IMO, he waited too long to criticize the imbecile that destroyed eight years of progress. As a matter of fact, Bush could hardly do any worse if he was an agent for a foreign government actually TRYING to ruin America.

Bush Sr crticized Clinton in less then a year.

In addition, at a speech in a San Antonio middle school in October, 1993, George Bush, Sr. criticized Bill Clinton for mucking up the Somalia operation. The following quote is from a newspaper story dated Oct 15, 1993, by Sandy Grady, called "Bush throws stones from glass house.".

``What's the mission? In the Gulf it was to get Saddam out of Kuwait ... Then you got to know how they're going to do it ... Then you've got to know how they're going to get out of there.''


Bush said his humane approach _ feed starving Somalis until United Nations peacekeepers took over _ was being scrambled.



``They (U.S. troops) took food in. They weren't fighting ... I just hope the mission doesn't get messed up now, that we get into an equation where we don't know the answer to those three questions.''

Ike critcized JFK:

When Dwight Eisenhower left office, in 1961, he was unimpressed with the man elected to succeed him, and he stayed that way for the next two years. He thought Kennedy's show-business friends sullied the dignity of the White House, and he was appalled by JFK's deficit spending. In 1963 he wrote a magazine article violently attacking the idea. Deficit finance, he warned, "through history has lured nations to ... economic disaster." Ike liked to repeat the old saw "You can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much."
EX-PRESIDENTIAL CRITICISM OF INCUMBENTS

But it's not fair when Clinton speaks out. Lame supporters for a lame President if you ask me.

 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else

All the Clinton haters have to just be beside themselves. Clinton's right and the people know it.

I don't know where you get your information from, but that is so incredibly untrue, it's not even funny. In fact, we have borrowed money from somewhere else for pretty much every single conflict we've ever had.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else

All the Clinton haters have to just be beside themselves. Clinton's right and the people know it.

I don't know where you get your information from, but that is so incredibly untrue, it's not even funny. In fact, we have borrowed money from somewhere else for pretty much every single conflict we've ever had.

That's a quote from the article in the OP. You got links to disprove it? Be my guest.
 

dannybin1742

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Oh look a democrat playing class warfare again. How cute.

oh look the usual answer from a fox news viewer.


you don't know what class warfare is........ when the poor come to cut your head off then you can scream class warefare, until then, STFU
 

Gamingphreek

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Clinton is such a douche

Additionally, i sincerely doubt that Clinton would be elected again and again if there were no limits. He was a horrible president who thought with his d!ck instead of his brain. I know he was very intelligent so why did he make such stupid decisions.

As for the "booming economy and warless era"...please!

That "booming economy" could have very well been set up by Reagan and Bush before him, he just happened to come into term at the time where the effects peaked. Not saying it did, but it is a very legitimate argument.

As for no wars. Ok, Somalia. They kill a couple of our troops and clinton decides to screw any progress we had made thus far, and simply withdraw all troops. Yeah good idea :roll:. Not to mention the continuous bombing of Kosovo, and Iraq.

Also many forget to mention that Clinton, in all of his wisdom, decided to lend Afghanistan some of our tech, which is now making it nearly impossible for us to track Osama.

Not to mention he LIED in under oath, in the court of law, in front of the entire nation. Way to set a good example there Bill :roll:

Im not saying Clinton is the end all evil person, and i know many democrats consider him a great figure head, but some of these arguments simply have NO basis, whatsoever.

-Kevin
 

Gamingphreek

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oh look the usual answer from a fox news viewer.

While still conservative, i would definitely say that FOX is less biased than CNN, or NBC. What i am trying to say in that mess, is that Fox is much less conservative than CNN and NBC are liberal. Dont kid youself here, FOX may be conservative but not to the extent that some of those news anchors on CNN and NBC.

-Kevin
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
oh look the usual answer from a fox news viewer.

While still conservative, i would definitely say that FOX is less biased than CNN, or NBC. What i am trying to say in that mess, is that Fox is much less conservative than CNN and NBC are liberal. Dont kid youself here, FOX may be conservative but not to the extent that some of those news anchors on CNN and NBC.

-Kevin

Marginalized yourself with this post. Congrats.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Clinton isn't in office anymore, he has a right to free speech. Nobody is forcing you to read what's on his site. He is entitled to say whatever the hell he wants, and this is not class warfare Genx. It's a matter of NOT giving the wealthier more wealth and repealing back tax cuts that were given to them. They were doing just fine before the tax cuts were enacted. I fail to see why you continue to defend them...

You just defined two groups of people based on income. That is class warfare.

It absolutely IS Class Warfare. The war was started by the rich.

It is way past time for the common man to take the Country back from the rich.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Question: Does anyone here think that the greatest spending GOP machine in the history of the US is going to cut spending to pay for the rebuilding effort of N.O.?

Should we borrow the money and repay later with interest or raise taxes now if no spending cuts?

Simple questions....

Any takers? Are they going to cut spending, raise taxes, or borrow?

( There are a few here that would spend more, cut taxes and borrow the whole thing - probably a few in DC too)

 

raildogg

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I loved Clinton but he had the worst foreign policy of any US President in the history of this nation. we are paying for that today.

i do listen to Clinton any time he says something about domestic policy though because he knows what he is talking about, unlike our current leaders. this man knows how to play politics and how to score points. and on the comments Clinton is making, a lot of them i agree with.

Milosovic was fighting terrorists and killing innocents. if he only fought and killed terrorists, that would be one thing. but his thugs committed genocide. entire villages were wiped out. we did the right thing by taking action

as for Bush not being the man Clinton was, that is unture. Bush is quite the man Clinton was, if not more. he has deep beliefs and a core. this is something Democrats will never understand

as for ex-Democrats criticizing current Republican presidents? so what? they are citizens of a free country, let them speak their mind.

the Republicans acted the same way towards Clinton like the Democrats are acting towards Bush now, except 9/11 happened and we have a so-called war on terror to fight. a war on terror to fight with such allies as Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and others.
 

coolkatz321

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
oh look the usual answer from a fox news viewer.

While still conservative, i would definitely say that FOX is less biased than CNN, or NBC. What i am trying to say in that mess, is that Fox is much less conservative than CNN and NBC are liberal. Dont kid youself here, FOX may be conservative but not to the extent that some of those news anchors on CNN and NBC.

-Kevin

Any credibility you may have had, which was very little at best, is now gone. You are out of your mind to say that statement. All the anchors on CNN and MSNBC report the news. Fox Spews reports it with opinios... their opinions. It's the least fair and balanced news station in the world. Even some Republicans will tell you that. They praise Bush for destroying the world, and have no liberal views on the show. The FN daily agenda always consists of some way to slant the left. See Outfoxed if you don't believe me. And yes, Outfoxed was made by a liberal, but EVERYthing in it is true. It's all facts, and very well researched.