Clinton changes her tune. Vetting immigrants is no longer racist.

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Pens1566

Lifer
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Great. And now if you can tell us how or why that applies to the topic at hand, you get an extra snack after nap time.

You realize this is about mistakenly granting citizenship to immigrants that were already here. This actually has nothing to do with the vetting of refugees we let into the country. The only relation between these two is that both are about non American individuals, which just would be you xenophobically equating the two

You just stole his cookies ...
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Hey OP, please quote where Clinton said that vetting immigrants is racist. Until then, your thread is a waste of time.

The odds this request goes unanswered seem to be close to 100%. The only question is if the OP was duped himself or if he's trying to deceive people here.
 

Thump553

Lifer
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One thing Trumpites leave unsaid is that we already strongly vet immigrants. What the Trumpites apparently want is a system like was used in Jim Crow South regarding voter registration. We aren't going back there again.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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One thing Trumpites leave unsaid is that we already strongly vet immigrants. What the Trumpites apparently want is a system like was used in Jim Crow South regarding voter registration. We aren't going back there again.
Fuck, with the new Jim Crow laws they keep passing we're getting damn close though.
 

TheGardener

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ah, the aptly self-named OP..... Always planting a little turdlet, hoping it'll grow into a full turd....

You're an idiot.

Both of you are snide little masturbaters, who never add anything to a topic, but just stop long enough to hurl insults. Spew and run. Who cares what the likes of you think!

Hey OP, please quote where Clinton said that vetting immigrants is racist. Until then, your thread is a waste of time.

What's the difference between profiling and vetting? You can't vet unless you profile. Pres. Obama's executive order changed the game, by allowing anyone illegally entering the country to claim refugee status AND remain in the country, while things are 'sorted out'. There is no vetting there. Hillary Clinton has publicly supported Obama's executive order. So this is a change. But where are the details of how she will implement this so-called vetting?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Both of you are snide little masturbaters, who never add anything to a topic, but just stop long enough to hurl insults. Spew and run. Who cares what the likes of you think!



What's the difference between profiling and vetting? You can't vet unless you profile. Pres. Obama's executive order changed the game, by allowing anyone illegally entering the country to claim refugee status AND remain in the country, while things are 'sorted out'. There is no vetting there. Hillary Clinton has publicly supported Obama's executive order. So this is a change. But where are the details of how she will implement this so-called vetting?

You've taken ignorance to a whole new level. You can't vet unless you profile? I'm guessing you have a different definition of profiling than the rest of us. Go ahead and enlighten us on how vetting can only occur if you profile.

You also don't seem to understand the process one must go through to claim refugee status. Why don't you cite a reliable source for that claim as well. I'm sure you'll be back real quick with that info.
 

TheGardener

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Thank you for your challenge.

Simple on the first part. Whenever a minority group is asked questions, liberals refer to that as profiling. By questioning all illegal immigrants, that comes under the heading of profiling. That's a liberal definition, not a conservative one.

As to the process of claiming refugee status, I can help there too. Am I getting back to you soon enough? All of 10 minutes.

"But now President Obama has invented a new way to continue the influx of migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and do it in a way that is deemed “legal.” He will simply re-categorize them as “refugees.”

Secretary of State John Kerry announced Wednesday plans to expand a program to let Central Americans apply for refugee status before they attempt the long, arduous trip to the U.S.-Mexico border.

As such, Obama will place authority for the program under the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, who will pre-screen migrants from three Central American countries and decide which ones qualify as refugees eligible to come to the United States, the Associate Press reports.

“I am pleased to announce plans to expand the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program to help vulnerable families and individuals from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, and offer them a safe and legal alternative to the dangerous journey many are currently tempted to begin, making them easy prey for human smugglers who have no interest but their own profits,” Kerry said in a speech at the National Defense University.

Later Wednesday, Obama authorized the State Department to access up to $70 million from the U.S. Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund “for the purpose of meeting unexpected urgent refugee and migration needs.”

In December 2014, the U.S. began offering refugee status to Central American children who have parents already living legally in the U.S., but only a limited number have been approved.

The latest effort expands that program by moving applicants, both families and single individuals, into “safe zones” to await processing. In other words, the U.N. will be herding refugees into camps in Central America just as it has been doing in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, then permanently resettling them in the United States."

http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/obama-grants-refugee-status-to-new-wave-of-migrants/

So where's the beef? Err... vetting?
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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What's the difference between profiling and vetting? You can't vet unless you profile. Pres. Obama's executive order changed the game, by allowing anyone illegally entering the country to claim refugee status AND remain in the country, while things are 'sorted out'. There is no vetting there. Hillary Clinton has publicly supported Obama's executive order. So this is a change. But where are the details of how she will implement this so-called vetting?
Do you legitimately not know the answer to that question?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Gotta love idiot posters like you!

Thank you for your challenge.

Simple on the first part. Whenever a minority group is asked questions, liberals refer to that as profiling. By questioning all illegal immigrants, that comes under the heading of profiling. That's a liberal definition, not a conservative one.

As to the process of claiming refugee status, I can help there too. Am I getting back to you soon enough? All of 10 minutes.

"But now President Obama has invented a new way to continue the influx of migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and do it in a way that is deemed “legal.” He will simply re-categorize them as “refugees.”

Secretary of State John Kerry announced Wednesday plans to expand a program to let Central Americans apply for refugee status before they attempt the long, arduous trip to the U.S.-Mexico border.

As such, Obama will place authority for the program under the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, who will pre-screen migrants from three Central American countries and decide which ones qualify as refugees eligible to come to the United States, the Associate Press reports.

“I am pleased to announce plans to expand the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program to help vulnerable families and individuals from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, and offer them a safe and legal alternative to the dangerous journey many are currently tempted to begin, making them easy prey for human smugglers who have no interest but their own profits,” Kerry said in a speech at the National Defense University.

Later Wednesday, Obama authorized the State Department to access up to $70 million from the U.S. Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund “for the purpose of meeting unexpected urgent refugee and migration needs.”

In December 2014, the U.S. began offering refugee status to Central American children who have parents already living legally in the U.S., but only a limited number have been approved.

The latest effort expands that program by moving applicants, both families and single individuals, into “safe zones” to await processing. In other words, the U.N. will be herding refugees into camps in Central America just as it has been doing in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, then permanently resettling them in the United States."

http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/obama-grants-refugee-status-to-new-wave-of-migrants/

So where's the beef? Err... vetting?

See if you can find where these words appear in your post and then see if you have the mental capacity to understand how you just fucking owned yourself:

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Do you even know what vetting is? Because by all accounts you sure as shit don't.

I'm still waiting for your answer on how vetting can't occur without profiling.
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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As to OP's latest tangent, refugee has a very specific meaning in international law. The Executive Branch does have the authority under current law to determine which groups are to be treated as refugees. This decision can of course by challenged in court or Congress can change the underlying law/criteria. Obama can't just make it up though.

And your concept of profiling is sadly lacking. It is not just asking questions of minority persons,it is disparate law enforcement where the police base their decisions on who to stop, who to question, etc. based upon improper criteria alone, such as a person's race. Imagine a drunk driving road block where the police wave through everyone but those of Irish descent, as the Irish are well known heavy drinkers (at least in some people's opinions). Fair and proper law enforcement?

I'm being to see how OP could become so easily confused and wrongfully come to the erroneous conclusions that (a) the USA doesn't present vet immigrants and (b) Hillary Clinton was opposed to such vetting. Too much oversimplification of thought process fostered by an abundance of Trump speeches seasoned with Faux News mouthpieces's bullsh*t, Try frinding out the actual facts before spouting an opinion.
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Thank you for your challenge.

Simple on the first part. Whenever a minority group is asked questions, liberals refer to that as profiling. By questioning all illegal immigrants, that comes under the heading of profiling. That's a liberal definition, not a conservative one.

As to the process of claiming refugee status, I can help there too. Am I getting back to you soon enough? All of 10 minutes.

"But now President Obama has invented a new way to continue the influx of migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and do it in a way that is deemed “legal.” He will simply re-categorize them as “refugees.”

Secretary of State John Kerry announced Wednesday plans to expand a program to let Central Americans apply for refugee status before they attempt the long, arduous trip to the U.S.-Mexico border.

As such, Obama will place authority for the program under the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, who will pre-screen migrants from three Central American countries and decide which ones qualify as refugees eligible to come to the United States, the Associate Press reports.

“I am pleased to announce plans to expand the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program to help vulnerable families and individuals from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, and offer them a safe and legal alternative to the dangerous journey many are currently tempted to begin, making them easy prey for human smugglers who have no interest but their own profits,” Kerry said in a speech at the National Defense University.

Later Wednesday, Obama authorized the State Department to access up to $70 million from the U.S. Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund “for the purpose of meeting unexpected urgent refugee and migration needs.”

In December 2014, the U.S. began offering refugee status to Central American children who have parents already living legally in the U.S., but only a limited number have been approved.

The latest effort expands that program by moving applicants, both families and single individuals, into “safe zones” to await processing. In other words, the U.N. will be herding refugees into camps in Central America just as it has been doing in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, then permanently resettling them in the United States."

http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/obama-grants-refugee-status-to-new-wave-of-migrants/

So where's the beef? Err... vetting?


Yeah, you know you've jumped the credibility shark when you quote a WorldNutDaily article. Congrats good sir.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Both of you are snide little masturbaters, who never add anything to a topic, but just stop long enough to hurl insults. Spew and run. Who cares what the likes of you think!



What's the difference between profiling and vetting? You can't vet unless you profile. Pres. Obama's executive order changed the game, by allowing anyone illegally entering the country to claim refugee status AND remain in the country, while things are 'sorted out'. There is no vetting there. Hillary Clinton has publicly supported Obama's executive order. So this is a change. But where are the details of how she will implement this so-called vetting?

No, sorry, vetting is not the same as profiling. Profiling is simply one thing you might do when you vet. Clinton has consistently stated that she supports vetting of refugees. She has never called it racist. Apart from what she said recently about it, here is what she said in September of last year:

I think the United States has to do more, and I would like to see us move from what is a good start with 10,000 to 65,000, and begin immediately to put into place the mechanisms for vetting the people that we would take in.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-again-fails-screen-out-falsehood-oft-/

That should also put to rest the lie I'm seeing on a dozen conservative websites that Clinton just all the sudden backed Trump's plan. Trump said he wants to ban Muslims until a vetting plan is in place. Clinton doesn't want to ban a class of immigrants. She just wants to vet refugees, and always has.