Clinton’s popular vote lead surpasses two million.

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fskimospy

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buckshot24 said:
When an election is close enough where any one of 30 states can turn the result vs another election where one state and only one state could turn the result (in a popular vote) I think we're talking about two entirely different scenarios. You trying to equate them is the height of idiocy. And I don't think you're being objective in comparing your objectivity.
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Yes I fully realize that you're creating arbitrary distinctions to justify a position that you've become personally invested in not backing down on. You are seriously trying to make an argument where you think a national popular vote system is bad because the largest state in the union could swing an election in defiance of the 'collective decision of 49 states (which is ridiculous anyway considering about half of those agree with California, but whatever) but are fine with a system where one of the smallest states in the union could swing an election. Apparently if LOTS of states have the ability to cause what you consider to be a bad result this is better because reasons.

Stop trying to figure out how to defend what you said and start figuring out if what you said makes literally any sense. Use your head.

It is also funny that you think your proclamations about me personally mean anything.
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Yet you were perfectly comfortable making insinuations about me personally. Another fine example of your hypocrisy!
 
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fskimospy said:
Yes I fully realize that you're creating arbitrary distinctions to justify a position that you've become personally invested in not backing down on. You are seriously trying to make an argument where you think a national popular vote system is bad because the largest state in the union could swing an election in defiance of the 'collective decision of 49 states (which is ridiculous anyway considering about half of those agree with California, but whatever) but are fine with a system where one of the smallest states in the union could swing an election. Apparently if LOTS of states have the ability to cause what you consider to be a bad result this is better because reasons.
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The hallmarks of any close contest means small factors can change the result. In 2000 30 states could have made all the difference because it was such a close election. Yeah, I have no problem with that system.
Yet you were perfectly comfortable making insinuations about me personally. Another fine example of your hypocrisy!
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Yes, I don't think you're being objective here. But I'm also not using that opinion to make some point like you do, constantly. You say I'm the least rational person here and you want me to "think about what that means".

"You are literally the biggest hack on this forum, just think about that."

Is about the same thing you're saying about me.

As for the popular vote, this will not change anytime soon so enjoy the electoral college for the foreseeable future. Whether you like it or not it is a better system than a straight direct vote.
 
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fskimospy

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buckshot24 said:
The hallmarks of any close contest means small factors can change the result. In 2000 30 states could have made all the difference because it was such a close election. Yeah, I have no problem with that system.
Yes, I don't think you're being objective here. But I'm also not using that opinion to make some point like you do, constantly. You say I'm the least rational person here and you want me to "think about what that means".

"You are literally the biggest hack on this forum, just think about that."

Is about the same thing you're saying about me.

As for the popular vote, this will not change anytime soon so enjoy the electoral college for the foreseeable future. Whether you like it or not it is a better system than a straight direct vote.
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Yeah it would be horrible to use that opinion to make some point about someone.

buckshot24 said:
When it comes to Trump, you're a hack and you will never be satisfied with any disclosure. That is what he was talking about with "ilk" I'm guessing. You have a basic belief that Trump is a crook and no contrary information is going to dissuade you of these beliefs, ever.
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Hypocrite.
 
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Blackjack200 said:
I mean, if you had a shred of integrity you'd throw out Trump's largest margin state too if you wanted to make a "rest of the country" argument, but I think most in this thread see you for who you are.
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Are you going to apologize for impugning my integrity
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Yeah it would be horrible to use that opinion to make some point about someone.



Hypocrite.
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Sigh...

I believe those things but I don't expect you to ponder them as if they are objective fact.

Don't you have something better to do?
 
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Sheik Yerbouti

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buckshot24 said:
Are you going to apologize for impugning my integrity
Sigh...

I believe those things but I don't expect you to ponder them as if they are objective fact.

Don't you have something better to do?
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AHHH HAHAHHAHAHAHA integrity? You? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shitsnacks... that's good, that's rich.
 
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The Obama Erasure: "He Came Bearing Hope, He Leaves Full Of Fear"

It can't happen soon enough. Finally adult supervision will return to W.DC.

The Obama erasure will go far deeper than undoing domestic laws, or foreign deals. Mr Trump will repeal Obamacare, or alter it beyond recognition. He will “keep an open mind” about whether to pull the US out of the Paris agreement on climate change and quite probably blow up the US-Iran nuclear deal. These acts would undo Mr Obama’s most visible achievements. Less obvious ones, such as the ban on Arctic drilling and enhanced interrogation techniques and the intention of closing Guantánamo Bay (never completed) will also be consigned to the dustbin. It will be as if Mr Obama was never here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/obama-erasure-he-came-bearing-hope-he-leaves-full-fear
 
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momeNt

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IGBT said:
The Obama Erasure: "He Came Bearing Hope, He Leaves Full Of Fear"

It can't happen soon enough. Finally adult supervision will return to W.DC.

The Obama erasure will go far deeper than undoing domestic laws, or foreign deals. Mr Trump will repeal Obamacare, or alter it beyond recognition. He will “keep an open mind” about whether to pull the US out of the Paris agreement on climate change and quite probably blow up the US-Iran nuclear deal. These acts would undo Mr Obama’s most visible achievements. Less obvious ones, such as the ban on Arctic drilling and enhanced interrogation techniques and the intention of closing Guantánamo Bay (never completed) will also be consigned to the dustbin. It will be as if Mr Obama was never here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/obama-erasure-he-came-bearing-hope-he-leaves-full-fear
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The intention of closing. Such a glorious achievement.

I haven't visited their website in a while, but I guess it has moved from an economic alt website with their "Tyler Durden" posting Austrian economic opinion articles to come one come all contributor based bullshit.
 
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brycejones

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IGBT said:
The Obama Erasure: "He Came Bearing Hope, He Leaves Full Of Fear"

It can't happen soon enough. Finally adult supervision will return to W.DC.

The Obama erasure will go far deeper than undoing domestic laws, or foreign deals. Mr Trump will repeal Obamacare, or alter it beyond recognition. He will “keep an open mind” about whether to pull the US out of the Paris agreement on climate change and quite probably blow up the US-Iran nuclear deal. These acts would undo Mr Obama’s most visible achievements. Less obvious ones, such as the ban on Arctic drilling and enhanced interrogation techniques and the intention of closing Guantánamo Bay (never completed) will also be consigned to the dustbin. It will be as if Mr Obama was never here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/obama-erasure-he-came-bearing-hope-he-leaves-full-fear
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Arctic drilling will take years to undo. Nice to see you support torture since "enhanced interrogation technique" is just a euphemism for torture. You're a fucking idiot for even calling it the US-Iran nuclear deal since 5 other countries were involved in the discussions and are part of the deal as well.
 
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repoman0 said:
I don't think we should count Tennessee or Texas, but should count California. Tennessee and Texas are a net drain on the US while California is a net positive. Texas and Tennessee take in government welfare that California helps contribute to them. Therefore, the votes of people in Tennessee and Texas are worth less and we shouldn't count them in this exercise.

/shitty buckshit logic

edit: fine, Tennessee and Texas aren't enough ... add some other state so that the populations of the three equate to the population of California. It doesn't matter, the argument is stupid in this case and is stupid in buckshit's case.
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Still don't get it? Has to be intentional at this point.
 
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Balt

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IGBT said:
The Obama Erasure: "He Came Bearing Hope, He Leaves Full Of Fear"

It can't happen soon enough. Finally adult supervision will return to W.DC.
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Saw dumb headline, looked at user name, looked at link address. Ignored the rest.

Obama's problem wasn't that he's not an adult. In fact, his biggest weakness was that he expected other people to act like adults. Instead, he was greeted with insults and claims that he wasn't even an American, he was hellbent on the destruction of the U.S., and all sorts of other nonsense.

So yeah. If Obama feels any fear, it's because he actually cares about the course of this country. As a millionaire, he will personally be just fine.
 
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buckshot24 said:
Still don't get it? Has to be intentional at this point.
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There's not much to get. You are making a silly point completely and utterly lacking in any logical supporting argument. Everybody else is poking holes in your "logic" and you're ignoring it.

Ah, I get it now! The point I was missing is that we are arguing with a troll. When the troll is wrong, it shuts its ears and doubles down, and further argument with it is a pointless waste of time.
 
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repoman0 said:
There's not much to get. You are making a silly point completely and utterly lacking in any logical supporting argument. Everybody else is poking holes in your "logic" and you're ignoring it.

Ah, I get it now! The point I was missing is that we are arguing with a troll. When the troll is wrong, it shuts its ears and doubles down, and further argument with it is a pointless waste of time.
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No, that is incorrect.
 
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