Clinton’s popular vote lead surpasses two million.

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The margin of California would be enough to overtake 31 states, combined, this year.

And Trump would have won the popular vote by 1.5 million without California.

He could...you know...be a better candidate that reaches more people in all walks of life..but..that would be silly to try and win by more people liking you all over the US.
 

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He could...you know...be a better candidate that reaches more people in all walks of life..but..that would be silly to try and win by more people liking you all over the US.
Always keep in mind that he is President-Elect when making these kinds of statements.
 
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If you threw out Texas you wouldn't need to get to 270 EC votes and Trump would still have more popular votes (without California). You'd only need 251 EC votes without Texas and Trump would still have enough. California is only 8.6% of the population but enough to totally override the rest of the country due to them being so uncompetitive. An EC system prevents such an imbalance and why we should keep it.

How is CA uncompetitive? 60% dem and 40% GOP is not that crazy. Also i wonder how many repubs stay home on voting day due to the EC. Could even swings CA's large population closer to GOP with a popular vote system.
 

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49 States wanted Trump and gave him the popular vote in those states and 1 state wanted another candidate but California wouldn't be dictating anything?
 

Balt

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49 States wanted Trump and gave him the popular vote in those states and 1 state wanted another candidate but California wouldn't be dictating anything?

You.. you realize.. California isn't a conscious being... right?
 

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49 States wanted Trump and gave him the popular vote in those states and 1 state wanted another candidate but California wouldn't be dictating anything?

Buckshot on why Pennsylvania's power under the national popular vote magically shouldn't count: 'it's unlikely that they will go heavily for one candidate so therefore their power doesn't count!'

Buckshot on California under the national popular vote: 'we shouldn't have a national popular vote because of this insanely unlikely event where literally every other state in the entire country votes for one candidate by a small margin which would then be overridden by California!'

Logical consistency is not your strong point.
 

agent00f

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Buckshot on why Pennsylvania's power under the national popular vote magically shouldn't count: 'it's unlikely that they will go heavily for one candidate so therefore their power doesn't count!'

Buckshot on California under the national popular vote: 'we shouldn't have a national popular vote because of this insanely unlikely event where literally every other state in the entire country votes for one candidate by a small margin which would then be overridden by California!'

Logical consistency is not your strong point.

Logical inconsistency is evidently advantageous for him. Rather makes sense people without much intellect use other methods to win.
 

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Buckshot on why Pennsylvania's power under the national popular vote magically shouldn't count: 'it's unlikely that they will go heavily for one candidate so therefore their power doesn't count!'

Buckshot on California under the national popular vote: 'we shouldn't have a national popular vote because of this insanely unlikely event where literally every other state in the entire country votes for one candidate by a small margin which would then be overridden by California!'

Logical consistency is not your strong point.
Accurate representation of what I say isn't one of yours.
 

Abwx

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The world we live in.

That must be a world of drugs :

49 States wanted Trump and gave him the popular vote in those states and 1 state wanted another candidate but California wouldn't be dictating anything?

He didnt got the popular vote since Clinton got 2 millions more votes, he got the states votes, wich is different.

That being said never a democrat candidate had such low rating in the opinion of the european leftist and moderate right wings as she s perceived as a neo cons in disguise, wich she undoubtly is as revealed by Wikileaks...
 

buckshot24

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That must be a world of drugs :



He didnt got the popular vote since Clinton got 2 millions more votes, he got the states votes, wich is different.

That being said never a democrat candidate had such low rating in the opinion of the european leftist and moderate right wings as she s perceived as a neo cons in disguise, wich she undoubtly is as revealed by Wikileaks...
Hey Fidel, I know Trump didn't have more votes nationwide, maybe if you read the rest of the post you were quoting that would become obvious.
 
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Just think about that, you thought I was saying Trump won 49 of 50 states? How about a little charity?
how about a little less bullshit?
you 'guaranteed' that drumpf would play less golf than Obama, but when called on it, you backed out. Now you claim that drumpf won the popular vote in 49 out of 50 states, and you're backing out of that. You are a hack, a coward, and a everglowing twatwaffle.
 

Abwx

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Hey Fidel, I know Trump didn't have more votes nationwide, maybe if you read the rest of the post you were quoting that would become obvious.

Certainly but wininng the popular votes in 49 states wasnt enough to win the popular vote for the whole country.

In light of this fact one must admit that there s something fishy in the US electoral system for president election, the fact that one can be elected with as much as 2 millions votes deficit should ring a bell that the country is not democratic for this election, wich was a willfull decision of the bunch of criminal land grabbers and other slave owners that you call your founding fathers..
 
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49 States wanted Trump and gave him the popular vote in those states and 1 state wanted another candidate but California wouldn't be dictating anything?

For reasons?

It's a stupid line of argument because you're arbitrarily leaving out a state. Why are you arguing over California when you could say we should ignore New York and Massachusetts (while counting California), then Donald John Trump won the popular vote in 48 states. But you'll never let facts or logic get in the way.