Originally posted by: Dumac
Originally posted by: ja1484
The first Halo was really the first true shooter that a console had ever seen, and thus it spread like wildfire.
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How in the world would Rome:Total War or CoH would be successful on consoles? You can't use games that require an extremely high number of keys/inputs for proper play. The RTS genre will never be great on a console controller, yet this doesn't make the game 'sophisticated'.
Saying the console audience can't handle 'the intensity, the graphics, and the gameplay' is retarded. The first too are overly ambiguous. What gamer sits down, plays, and then quits from thinking 'Oh, this game is to intense for me." or "I can't handle these graphics." Also, the third points is highly debatable.
The Call of Duty series, and rather, most FPSs in general, something PC gamers seem to cling to, have extremely simplified and straightforward gameplay that is a cinch to handle. In no way do I fault FPSs for this, but you seem to equate complexity of gameplay to the richness of a title's worth, when this is no way true.
There are tons of great games for consoles that are no way dumbed down. Honestly, I haven't played Company of Heroes as I've been busy with work, but I'm sure I would enjoy it. I would, however, also enjoy games I find just as 'sophisticated' which are on the PC. Console games tend to be more developed in other ways that PC games seem to lack now, including art, atmosphere, dialog and other potentially absorbing attributes.
Of course when you look at only gameplay, the PC will seem more complex, simply to the versatility of a kb+m. However, this doesn't necessarily make or break a game. Also, there are some complex console games that I hate to imagine playing on a PC (ex: fighting games in general). I don't think there are enough cons to rule out any gaming platform, which you basically stated.
Ever notice the only people making arguments such as Mac's are folks who haven't branched out into multi-platform gaming?
He speaks from ignorance, because that is all he can speak from.