Click it or ticket

[txrandom]

If you are on private property in Texas, you don't have to wear your seatbelt.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Zaitsev

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
In FL, you can't be pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt, but only get a ticket for not wearing it if they already pulled you over for speeding, expired tag, malfunctioning lights, etc.

Not true...that is a myth. They can stop you for not wearing your seatbelt solely. This was effective summer of 2005.

That is a national or Florida state law? Do you have a link? I don't doubt you, but just curious since I was pretty sure it was this way in Kansas too. I always hear the radio commercials that say"if you get pulled over and you're not wearing you seatbelt, you could get an additional fine...."

Florida.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: altonb1
the fact that they can pull you over and issue a ticket for not wearing the seatbelt AT ALL is what pisses me off. I know...there are dangers in not wearing the seatbelt, but there are certain types of accidents where the seatbelt would CAUSE more damage than not wearing one.

Besides, most municipailites are not concerned with your safety, etc--ticket revenue is simply a source of income for the governing agency in that area. If they truly cared, the money would be invested into something worthwhile and not factored into the budget.

Yeah, and they say that sober people get more injured than drunk people in certain types of accidents, since they tense up. Still a pretty contrived reason to drive drunk.

I can buy the lack of concern for your safety if we're talking about speeding. But considering that they have to scrape people off the pavement who would have gotten away with just bruises, and that taxpayer money funds the treatment of a lot of people who wouldn't have gotten injured if they'd buckled up, I'm not about to argue the seatbelt law.

How about this: You are free to not wear your seatbelt, however, in the case of an accident you will be billed the estimated difference between the cost of your accident (police response, medical units, airlift, medical care, towing your car now that there's no driver), and the cost of the accident if the driver had been belted.

In those exceedingly rare accidents you mentioned where being buckled up causes more injury than not, you get a check for the estimated difference.

Originally posted by: txrandom
If you are on private property in Texas, you don't have to wear your seatbelt.

If you are on private property pretty much anywhere, you don't have to wear your seatbelt.

 

[SampSon]

It's state funded information gathering. A best case scenario is that they get to ticket someone and generate revenue for the municipality in which they are working.

I would have asked the officer why he was taking your drivers license number down. As politely as possible of course.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: altonb1

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Winchester
Possibly to note that you have been warned and a ticket will be issued if you are ever pulled over for a seat belt violation.

that info card thing did say "this is your warning", so maybe you're right.

The fact that they can do that pisses me off. Would that be legal? Issuing a warning when you've done nothing wrong? Since ignorance of the law is no excuse, they can give you a ticket with first receiving a warning, so is the preemptive warning necessary?

the fact that they can pull you over and issue a ticket for not wearing the seatbelt AT ALL is what pisses me off. I know...there are dangers in not wearing the seatbelt, but there are certain types of accidents where the seatbelt would CAUSE more damage than not wearing one.

Besides, most municipailites are not concerned with your safety, etc--ticket revenue is simply a source of income for the governing agency in that area. If they truly cared, the money would be invested into something worthwhile and not factored into the budget.

i bet there are much more incidents where it would save you compared to hurt you.

I actually knew a guy who was involved in a relatively minor accident in which he slid off a road into a tree, however he was trapped by his seatbelt & burned to death when his car somhow caught fire & he couldn't get out.

Having said that, aside from trapping you in the car I can't think of any way having a seatbelt on would result in greater injury & I always buckle up as does anyone riding in my car with me.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Zaitsev

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
In FL, you can't be pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt, but only get a ticket for not wearing it if they already pulled you over for speeding, expired tag, malfunctioning lights, etc.

Not true...that is a myth. They can stop you for not wearing your seatbelt solely. This was effective summer of 2005.

That is a national or Florida state law? Do you have a link? I don't doubt you, but just curious since I was pretty sure it was this way in Kansas too. I always hear the radio commercials that say"if you get pulled over and you're not wearing you seatbelt, you could get an additional fine...."

Florida.

Yes, states can set their own enforcement of this law.

 

[Zedtom]

The wasted resources of law enforcement personnel for seat belt checkpoints in disgraceful. This is a situation where any alert driver encountering a slowdown for this reason can quickly snap on his belt and be in compliance.

Do seat belt laws specify lap and shoulder restraints? What if you had a seat belt on but it appeared to an outside observer that you were not buckled up?

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
In FL, you can't be pulled over for not wearing your seatbelt, but only get a ticket for not wearing it if they already pulled you over for speeding, expired tag, malfunctioning lights, etc.

Not true...that is a myth. They can stop you for not wearing your seatbelt solely. This was effective summer of 2005.

I don't know about Florida but in Virginia they cannot issue a seat belt ticket unless they are ticketing you for something else such as speeding, tail light out etc. Whether or not they can pull you over just because they see you not wearing a seatbelt is obviously open for interpretation since they can pretty much make up whatever they want as the reason for stopping you in the first place.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
The wasted resources of law enforcement personnel for seat belt checkpoints in disgraceful. This is a situation where any alert driver encountering a slowdown for this reason can quickly snap on his belt and be in compliance.

Do seat belt laws specify lap and shoulder restraints? What if you had a seat belt on but it appeared to an outside observer that you were not buckled up?

Don't worry the nanny staters who are nothing more than a modern version of the puritans will just toss you the old "it affects all of us because it affects insurance rates" argument if all else fails to justify their nannyism. We should all be grateful that there are people that are so complete in their lives that they have nothing but time on their hands to worry about everyone elses lives and well being. They will not be completely satisified until they have us all living in hermetically sealed bubbles protected from everything in the world but no doubt when that day comes they will find some chemical in the bubbles material that is causing us great harm and start worrying yet again.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: pontifex
I went to Wal-Mart during my lunch today and as I'm pulling into the entrance I see 2 cops standing in the roadway. I'm wondering if there was an accident or something going on. I pull up and roll my window down. cop says hi and says they're doing a seatbelt check.

he sees me wearing my seatbelt and says "glad to see you're wearing your seatbelt." I say "yes, I wear it all the time." He then asks me for my driver's license so he can see my driver's license number. He writes it down and then hands me this little Click it or ticket card that has info about the law and says I can go ahead. although I can't because the other cop has the car ahead of me still stopped and the cop that talked to me has another one pulled over in the lane next to me.

Why would they need my license number if they're just checking to see if people are wearing their seatbelts? is it just to show how many people they checked or something?

you're heart was all a twitter when they did that wasn't it?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: pontifex
I went to Wal-Mart during my lunch today and as I'm pulling into the entrance I see 2 cops standing in the roadway. I'm wondering if there was an accident or something going on. I pull up and roll my window down. cop says hi and says they're doing a seatbelt check.

he sees me wearing my seatbelt and says "glad to see you're wearing your seatbelt." I say "yes, I wear it all the time." He then asks me for my driver's license so he can see my driver's license number. He writes it down and then hands me this little Click it or ticket card that has info about the law and says I can go ahead. although I can't because the other cop has the car ahead of me still stopped and the cop that talked to me has another one pulled over in the lane next to me.

Why would they need my license number if they're just checking to see if people are wearing their seatbelts? is it just to show how many people they checked or something?

you're heart was all a twitter when they did that wasn't it?

all a twitter? lol why would it be all a twitter?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: pontifex
I went to Wal-Mart during my lunch today and as I'm pulling into the entrance I see 2 cops standing in the roadway. I'm wondering if there was an accident or something going on. I pull up and roll my window down. cop says hi and says they're doing a seatbelt check.

he sees me wearing my seatbelt and says "glad to see you're wearing your seatbelt." I say "yes, I wear it all the time." He then asks me for my driver's license so he can see my driver's license number. He writes it down and then hands me this little Click it or ticket card that has info about the law and says I can go ahead. although I can't because the other cop has the car ahead of me still stopped and the cop that talked to me has another one pulled over in the lane next to me.

Why would they need my license number if they're just checking to see if people are wearing their seatbelts? is it just to show how many people they checked or something?

you're heart was all a twitter when they did that wasn't it?

all a twitter? lol why would it be all a twitter?

because they asked for your license. i would be wonder why... what i did wrong.