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Sid59

Lifer
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been a law in California. I aways wear my seatbelt. even when i drive across the street to my friends place.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: TheEvil1
will not get in a car without putting it on.

Same here, wearing a seatbelt saved my life once, lesson learned :)

im luckily to be alive cause i had mine on imporperly when i was like 10 and we got in a accedent I huad butted the dash board. left a good dent. had to get 15 stitches in my forhhead, im luckily i didnt crack my skull or loose an eye
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget. </RANT>

Hey, I don't want to end up with blood on my tires or a dent on my car because some dumbass didn't buckle up and I hit his body. The fact that it's the law should make the chances of this lower. ;)

Granted... I wear my seatbelt all the time (my car has automatic seat belts, but when I get in any other persons car I still put it on. But still...

I believe if you're stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt, it should be your choice to endanger yourself. Anyone who's old enough to drive a car should know to wear the seatbelt. My opinion is that you should be liable for anyone in your car who's not over the age of 16, but anyone over that age, and especially over 18, should be liable for themselves. If someone wants to take themselves out of the gene pool, that's their own fault. If they're young enough to get in a car and not know about buckling up (granted, that should be like 10 and over, but I'll give it 16 just because that's when you are eligible to get a license) then you are old enough to take your life in your own hands.

In todays society, I take a lot of confidence in knowing that I can take my own life in my own hands. Many people say that if I get in an accident and I'm not wearing a seatbelt, I'm going to cause more damage... but that's not true. If I get in an accident where I'm going to be thrown through the window and cause damage to the car in front of me, I've more than likely caused major (almost the cost of the car) damage to the car. If I choose to die in the situation, that's my own constitutional right. The police should have no say in the matter whatsoever.

Like I said, the only people a person driving a car should be liable for should be the people that don't know any better... anyone else should be responsible for themselves and noone else.
 

Shockwave

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I dont wear one. But I'm the exception to the rule.
Been in 4 car accidents (serious), with 2 of the times resulting in the totaling of the vehicle. had I been wearing my seatbelt I would have been no better off, and most likely worse off, then if I wasnt wearing my seatbelt.
My friend was in an accident in which if he had been wearing his seatbelt he would be dead. The ceiling caved in on the car onto the seat. The force of impact and rolling had thrown him onto the floor of the car. If he would have been wearing his seatbelt, and thus strapped into the seat, he would have been crushed.

No, I dont wear my seatbelt. Experience has taught me its not always the best thing to do.
 

SinfulWeeper

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Sep 2, 2000
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It has been for some time here in Alaska. But now they are finally starting to enforce it.

I seen a cop outside our office window pull over 7 people in like just two hours :Q.
I made sure to put on my seat belt when I left :p
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws.


THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

</rant>

What happens when you fly through the windshield and your body hits a child and kills her?
 

KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws.


THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

</rant>

What happens when you fly through the windshield and your body hits a child and kills her?


What happens when you take a sh1t on an airplane and the sh1t falls from the sky and pokes you in the eye? Do you say "sh1t happens"?

KK
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws.


THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

</rant>

What happens when you fly through the windshield and your body hits a child and kills her?

That happens everyday.
rolleye.gif
 

tm37

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Jan 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws.


THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

</rant>

What happens when you fly through the windshield and your body hits a child and kills her?

WHat happens if I drive into a river and am unable to get the seatbelt off and die. Because that is more likely to occur than what you propose.

 

FeathersMcGraw

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Originally posted by: MachFive

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

Let's just say in the case of an automobile accident, the fewer resulting projectiles involved, the better.

Keep in mind that injury which isn't fatal to the person not responsible enough to wear a seatbelt may have financial impacts to health care and insurance systems, public or otherwise.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MachFive
F*CKING bullsh!t laws.


THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

If you choose not to buckle up, the penalty should ONLY be the risk of your own life - NOT lining the coffers of a state which is ineffecient with it's f*CKING budget.

</rant>

If you have other people in your car with you, then you are endangering their lives as well if you don't buckle up. Well known fact.
 

Modeps

Lifer
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I think movietickets.com should sue the US saying that the new slogan is too close to their slogan "To buy a ticket, just click it".

I agree with Machfive, it's the same crap that is happening with states banning cell phones while driving... soon we cant listen to the radio anymore, or cant have any passengers because talking to them is distracting.

If you have other people in your car with you, then you are endangering their lives as well if you don't buckle up. Well known fact.
You're an idiot. How is the driver not buckling up, endangering the lives of the other people in the car? OH CRAP THAT GUY JUST FLEW THROUGH HIS OWN WINDSHIELD AND DIED! NOW WE ALL DIE!
How is that a "well known fact"? I think you should shut up.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
will not get in a car without putting it on.


Yeh it doesn't matter if it is a law or not. Ever seen a close up of someone whose faced smacked a windshield cause they weren't wearing a seatbelt?


Originally posted by: Intake77
You're an idiot. How is the driver not buckling up, endangering the lives of the other people in the car? OH CRAP THAT GUY JUST FLEW THROUGH HIS OWN WINDSHIELD AND DIED! NOW WE ALL DIE!
How is that a "well known fact"? I think you should shut up.

well I was in an accident and had I not had my seatbelt I would have been knocked out silly. instead my seatbelt kept my face from smacking the windshield and I was able to steer the car away from oncoming traffic after getting rear ended by a idiot not paying attention.
 

Ulfwald

Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
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While a seatbelt may make you feel uncomfortable, just remeber what a cop friend of mine told me (he is also an EMT and Paramedic)

In all the years he has worked as a cop/medic, 99% of the people who are DOA never have their seatbelt on.

And for those people who don't use infant seats, you are STUPID!!!.
 

Modeps

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Oh, I wear my seatbelt all the time and wont drive without everyone having it on... anyone b1tches, I just say "Dont trust me that much."
 

chin311

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Feb 27, 2003
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they are doing this 'click it or ticket' here also, dont really bother me, if they are gonna pull you over, you know if your not wearing your seatbelt, thats the first thing you do, to avoid the ticket, so i dont think this campaign is gonna do much of any good. i rarely wear my seat-belt, dont know why, just never got in the habit, def. should tho....
 

LuckyTaxi

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Dec 24, 2000
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damn philly ... but when I call them about a fight outside my window they take hours to come!
 

Kilrsat

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Like I said, the only people a person driving a car should be liable for should be the people that don't know any better... anyone else should be responsible for themselves and noone else.

The problem isn't a safety issue really, it all comes down to the mighty dollar. Take a car full of individuals without health insurance for example. If they get in an accident, where they don't die, the state still needs to provide emergency health care. The fact is that the state will most likely never see this money back as the costs are simply extreme.

Now the idea is that if the people are wearing their seat belts, the emergency health care costs will be lower (on average). Thus saving the states huge amounts of money each year, money that could then be spent on more productive things.

If however you are suggesting that the state should then not be responsible for providing care to those that don't think to take any preventative measure in the first place, then yes, have optional seat belts and let natural selection take place.

This same type of financial argument is also pitched by the insurance companies, so states with active lobbies from insurance companies have extra motivation for making sure people are doing what they can instead of running up bills.

And yes, I wear my seatbelt and make sure everyone in my car wears theirs.
 

RyanM

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Originally posted by: lilcam
damn philly ... but when I call them about a fight outside my window they take hours to come!

Has anyone ever thought to themselves, "Hrm, I wonder if they took 75% of the street cops whose job is to drive around and look for moving violations, and then assigned them to round up the thousands of violent criminals who have skipped bail, or sent them to patrol areas of high violence, or hell, put them on petty theft cases like stuff being stolen from vehicles, how much would crime drop?"

The fact is, this "click it or ticket" mobilization is for one reason - To make up for the inefficient use of taxpayer's money by the government. Instead, the money should be applied where it would do the most good - solving EVERY crime, finding EVERY criminal, and ENFORCING the current laws on the books.

Except for ridiculous and unconstitutional (yeah, I said the U word) laws like this one.
 

JohnPaul

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Yea, my Rhode Island is also doing this, and no, I don't wear my seatbelt, and as stated above, if I get pulled over I will just slip it on. No ticket for me!! What fool wouldn't do that anyhow? I think it's my decision to not have the seatbelt on if I don't choose to, and besides, it will save money if I die instead of having to go to the hospital for any length of time, raising insurance rates. See, I am saving you seatbelt wearers money. BTW, I find it kind of rude to call anyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt stupid, since they could also call you stupid and site some statistic which shows wearing seatbelts can be dangerous in many situations. Some people don't like being restrained like that, myself included, and it has nothing to do with intelligence.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Intake77
I think movietickets.com should sue the US saying that the new slogan is too close to their slogan "To buy a ticket, just click it".

I agree with Machfive, it's the same crap that is happening with states banning cell phones while driving... soon we cant listen to the radio anymore, or cant have any passengers because talking to them is distracting.

If you have other people in your car with you, then you are endangering their lives as well if you don't buckle up. Well known fact.
You're an idiot. How is the driver not buckling up, endangering the lives of the other people in the car? OH CRAP THAT GUY JUST FLEW THROUGH HIS OWN WINDSHIELD AND DIED! NOW WE ALL DIE!
How is that a "well known fact"? I think you should shut up.

rolleye.gif


Let me try to explain it to you kid. There's been extensive research done on this. Anybody/anything that's not buckled up inside the car becomes a weapon inside the car in the event of an accident. Be it a book, TV, human body, etc. Now if you don't place that seat belt on your dumbass, you become an object in motion inside the car. There have been many reported cases of unbuckled people killing others inside the car because they were not strapped in. Immature kids like you don't deserve a license if you don't know the simplest things like this. It's basic physics.
 

Kelemvor

Lifer
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Wisconsin has had that law for a while now but it was always just for if you got stoped for something else they could get you for not wearing a seatbelt. Now they say they are cracking down so if they see you without one on, they'll find some other reason to pull you over and then say 'Oh look, you don't have a seatbelt on..."

But like others, it's just habit for me to put it on. CLose door, start ignition, put on seatbelt, shift into reverse... Doesn't require any thought at all.
 

Modeps

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Intake77
I think movietickets.com should sue the US saying that the new slogan is too close to their slogan "To buy a ticket, just click it".

I agree with Machfive, it's the same crap that is happening with states banning cell phones while driving... soon we cant listen to the radio anymore, or cant have any passengers because talking to them is distracting.

If you have other people in your car with you, then you are endangering their lives as well if you don't buckle up. Well known fact.
You're an idiot. How is the driver not buckling up, endangering the lives of the other people in the car? OH CRAP THAT GUY JUST FLEW THROUGH HIS OWN WINDSHIELD AND DIED! NOW WE ALL DIE!
How is that a "well known fact"? I think you should shut up.

rolleye.gif


Let me try to explain it to you kid. There's been extensive research done on this. Anybody/anything that's not buckled up inside the car becomes a weapon inside the car in the event of an accident. Be it a book, TV, human body, etc. Now if you don't place that seat belt on your dumbass, you become an object in motion inside the car. There have been many reported cases of unbuckled people killing others inside the car because they were not strapped in. Immature kids like you don't deserve a license if you don't know the simplest things like this. It's basic physics.

I love being immature and a kid. I also love posting flamebait sometimes.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Intake77
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Intake77
I think movietickets.com should sue the US saying that the new slogan is too close to their slogan "To buy a ticket, just click it".

I agree with Machfive, it's the same crap that is happening with states banning cell phones while driving... soon we cant listen to the radio anymore, or cant have any passengers because talking to them is distracting.

If you have other people in your car with you, then you are endangering their lives as well if you don't buckle up. Well known fact.
You're an idiot. How is the driver not buckling up, endangering the lives of the other people in the car? OH CRAP THAT GUY JUST FLEW THROUGH HIS OWN WINDSHIELD AND DIED! NOW WE ALL DIE!
How is that a "well known fact"? I think you should shut up.

rolleye.gif


Let me try to explain it to you kid. There's been extensive research done on this. Anybody/anything that's not buckled up inside the car becomes a weapon inside the car in the event of an accident. Be it a book, TV, human body, etc. Now if you don't place that seat belt on your dumbass, you become an object in motion inside the car. There have been many reported cases of unbuckled people killing others inside the car because they were not strapped in. Immature kids like you don't deserve a license if you don't know the simplest things like this. It's basic physics.

I love being immature and a kid. I also love posting flamebait sometimes.

Well you do a good job on the first 2 :) You must be very experienced.