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NuclearFusi0n

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Why do they suck so much? :confused:
(Please, no flames. Just lay out the facts and hopefully supporting evidence.)
 

MacGaven

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I will introduce you, El ClearChannel, to my pp.

[pee] On ClearChannel and its associates [/pee]
 

Kadarin

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To me, Clear Channel sucks largely because they are (in conjuntion with the Telecommunications Act of 1996) responsible for the dumbing down of American radio, and in part for the current mediocrity of the entire US music industry. In trying to appeal to the widest possible audience, Clear Channel, which owns a majority of radio stations in the US, has eliminated a lot of the depth by not playing music that appeals to smaller groups of people. Even the Top 40 format, bland to begin with, has been reduced to a 20-25 song rotation.
 

Cerb

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They suck because they bought all the good radio stations here.
Good thing I hate FM in general, huh? :)
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
To me, Clear Channel sucks largely because they are (in conjuntion with the Telecommunications Act of 1996) responsible for the dumbing down of American radio, and in part for the current mediocrity of the entire US music industry. In trying to appeal to the widest possible audience, Clear Channel, which owns a majority of radio stations in the US, has eliminated a lot of the depth by not playing music that appeals to smaller groups of people. Even the Top 40 format, bland to begin with, has been reduced to a 20-25 song rotation.

Clear Channel owns ~1200 radio stations. There are 13,000 in the country. That's not the definition of a "majority" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it's less than 10% of the market. If you don't like them, don't listen to their stations.

 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon


why does NPR suck so much? (carried on 4 times as many stations as clear channel)

Stupid analogy. I assumed you were smarter than that.
 

jaeger66

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They used the TCA of 1996 to expand everywhere and then cut 100,000 jobs, blacklist artists who don't fall in line with theit political views, and give loads money to the Republicans in exchange for favors from Bush when he was the governor of Texas. I guess if you believe that political favor should belong to whoever has the most money, and not the voters, then that sort of thing wouldn't bother you though.
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: jaeger66
They used the TCA of 1996 to expand everywhere and then cut 100,000 jobs, blacklist artists who don't fall in line with theit political views, and give loads money to the Republicans in exchange for favors from Bush when he was the governor of Texas. I guess if you believe that political favor should belong to whoever has the most money, and not the voters, then that sort of thing wouldn't bother you though.

Hmm, who signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 into law?

There's a lovely, amazing thing about radio. They base their programming on what most people listen to - that's what ratings are called. If people don't listen to particular channels, said channels change their programming to fit what the consumer wants, so they can attract advertisors, and thus make money. Wonderful thing, the free market.

It seems to me that if everyone griping here doesn't like Clear Channel, that's great. Get your friends together to boycott the particular stations that you feel are "doing you harm" and guess what - eventually they will change their programming to bring back listeners!
 

jaeger66

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Originally posted by: X-Man


Hmm, who signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 into law?

There's a lovely, amazing thing about radio. They base their programming on what most people listen to - that's what ratings are called. If people don't listen to particular channels, said channels change their programming to fit what the consumer wants, so they can attract advertisors, and thus make money. Wonderful thing, the free market.

It seems to me that if everyone griping here doesn't like Clear Channel, that's great. Get your friends together to boycott the particular stations that you feel are "doing you harm" and guess what - eventually they will change their programming to bring back listeners!

The issue isn't the TCA itself, but that it's had the exact opposite effect as intended. The FCC seems to have a very hard time saying no to corporations who promise to try their very hardest to be good. Instead of diversification, there has been consolidation.

Why it's been a disaster.
 

heartsurgeon

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Stupid analogy. I assumed you were smarter than that
sorry i disappointed you..

back to the topic..radio stations (except NPR) are primarily supported by advertising revenue..the
advertisers expect that their message will reach a certain audience, in a certain number, in certain "markets"
no audience - no advertising market.
apparently clearchannel has a market. now this could change. but their programming appears to be successful
enough that they are doing ok.

in "free markets" what ever that means to you, the marketplace determines the success of a business. (Republican point of view)
in totalitarian systems - the self-proclaimed "elites" decide what is best for the marketplace and impose their views on everyone (Democrat point of view)

if you don't like clearchannel stations..listen to something else
that's called freedom of choice.
comrade....i'm sure they have NPR where you are..
 

Vadatajs

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Why do they suck so much

why does NPR suck so much? (carried on 4 times as many stations as clear channel)


the day I hear pop on NPR, I'll question how the devil's first snowball fight went
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Stupid analogy. I assumed you were smarter than that

in "free markets" what ever that means to you, the marketplace determines the success of a business. (Republican point of view)

Unless you're Halliburton - in which case your political connections within the Republican Party determine your success.

in totalitarian systems - the self-proclaimed "elites" decide what is best for the marketplace and impose their views on everyone (Democrat point of view)

You forgot one - the current administration, in which the Yale educated, wealthy, well-connected executive decides what's best for the super-rich corporate crooks who got him "elected" and gives no thought at all to the middle class suburban dolts who voted for him.