Cleansing a hard drive so noone can retrieve anything ever

Holysmoke36

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I use cyberscrub to erase data from hard drives, at least the Department of Defense standards.

I went to a good friends home and they had some files that could cause them harm as he was in the ministry.

I recommended we use cyberscrub and pay 50 bucks for it. Another tech he knew said just set the hard drive to zeros.

My question to you all is does setting the hard drive to zero keep both hardware and software forensics from retrieving data?

any articles or links would be greatly appreciated.
 

NokiaDude

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I use dban. It's free and it has a couple of options for wiping the drive. I use the quick wipe which writes zeroes to the drive. They also have the DOD wipe which does several passes and such.
 

Holysmoke36

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I agree, but I am trying to convince them that we need to do that and not setting to zeros. I am wondering if setting to zeros is effective or not. dban is a complete erase of hard drive, I want to selectively erase the files in question
 

FlyingPenguin

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There are different layers security. DoD 5220 with 3 or 7 times overwrite is the accepted standard. This is more than adequate for normal people and data. This is NOT adequate for banks, and very secure military and government files. They can go to the extreme of using 35 passes and/or destroy the platters.

I use KillDisk 3.0 Pro to wipe an entire drive and use DoD 3 overwrites for casual stuff, DoD 7 if it's important. I prefer Killdisk to some of the free ones because of it's features. For one thing it lets you select the drive you want to delete (if you have multiple drives) and asks for confirmation (unless you disable it). And it supports multiple security schemes.

I use Eraser 5.7 for erasing individual files. Like Killdisk you can configure it for the number of overwrites. It integrates into the Explorer shell so when you right click on a file or folder you have an option to "Erase" as well as a non-secure "Delete". It also does 3, 7 or 35 overwrites: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4221



 

HO

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Move desired data to new HD. Remove old HD containing BAD data, drive over it several times with your truck, then toss it on a bonfire.

100% effective.

Cost : about the same as the wiping software.
Peace of mind: Priceless.
 

Holysmoke36

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Originally posted by: FlyingPenguin
There are different layers security. DoD 5220 with 3 or 7 times overwrite is the accepted standard. This is more than adequate for normal people and data. This is NOT adequate for banks, and very secure military and government files. They can go to the extreme of using 35 passes and/or destroy the platters.

I use KillDisk 3.0 Pro to wipe an entire drive and use DoD 3 overwrites for casual stuff, DoD 7 if it's important. I prefer Killdisk to some of the free ones because of it's features. For one thing it lets you select the drive you want to delete (if you have multiple drives) and asks for confirmation (unless you disable it). And it supports multiple security schemes.

I use Eraser 5.7 for erasing individual files. Like Killdisk you can configure it for the number of overwrites. It integrates into the Explorer shell so when you right click on a file or folder you have an option to "Erase" as well as a non-secure "Delete". It also does 3, 7 or 35 overwrites: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4221



thanks
 

Holysmoke36

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a bunch of files called britney spears xxx, eminem xxx, teen porn xxx, etc.

I think it may have been a virus or spyware as these are not actual jpg files but exe files.
 

Zepper

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Yeah, Eraser does a good job on files/folders and it's a free download. If you need more secure than that, use a steamroller...

.bh.
 

bob4432

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what do you have on your machine that is that sensitive? or are you just paranoid? and if you are paranoid, why? i doubt anybody would go to any lengths that are required to retieve your data with more than just a single zero fill. again, assuming you are not a pedophile, mob guy or stealing documents from military bases.
 

Holysmoke36

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not sure if you're bright enough to read the entire thread, but I clearly stated that it was a friends computer who was in the ministry.

porn files on a ministers computer is loss of income, loss of career, loss of reputation, etc. etc. etc.

and to even mention pedophile is fvkn ridiculous.
 

thecoolnessrune

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I just use autoclave. Its free, comes in Floppy images and ISO's, and cleans really really good. You can use anywhere from a single pass 00000 fill all the way up to a 25 pass uber harddrive eraser. Granted it took us 8 hours to do a 3 pass on a 120GB drive. I couldn't imagine how long it would take to do 25 passes lol.
 

Chaotic42

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If you don't need the drive, remove the platters and destroy them with a grinding wheel.