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Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: sobriquet
I have a recording of Brucker 4 & 7 on Deutsche Grammophon with Chicago Symphony Orchestra under Baremboim. To my ear it's a fantastic recording and interpretation, but as always this is a very subjective qualification.

I'll check it out....the Deutsche really know how to make good recordings...the finest recording i have ever heard was german:D
 

oboeguy

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If you like those big, juicy symphonies, you must get into Brahms' symphonies (#2 is one of my all-time favorites, and I don't listen to that stuff too often), and, of course, Beethoven (helloooo?). Tchaikovsky, too, while you're at it. It shouldn't be too hard to find like a zillion recordings of this stuff.

BTW, if you can, try to get some of the old Cleveland Orchestra recordings with George Szell conducting. Some of the "Sony Classics", IIRC, fit the bill.

If you decide to get into baroque chamber music, let me know and I will hook you up. :)
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
If you have an SACD-capable system, I would strongly suggest looking into the new Live Stereo series from RCA. Some of the best recordings, like, evar. :)

Other than that, find a good classical store around you, take your time to talk to a guy there, that'll be the easiest way. you should be able to hear some of the stuff too.

No SACD Player:( I should get one shouldn;t I ...or a DVDA player..even better..or an all in one:D

I have a lot of the RCA Victor stuff...fantastic...I also love EMI and Deutche Grammaphone [sic]
Deutsche Grammaphon!
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: luvya
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
If you're into the Rimsky-Korsakov, of course you have to give "Scheherezade" a run, I played in an orchestra that did a fabulous concert of this last May. Scriabin can definitely be difficult to get into, depending on what you find of his. You would probably also like Dvorak, you can try out his symphonies (you know of course the famous no. 8 "New World"), or "Vodnik-(The Water Goblin)" for some terrific program music.

Err...from the new world is no.9 ;)
Anyway johnjohn, were you the person who send me the mp3 of your own playing of the Scriabin 1st piano concerto?

D'oh! You're right. My bad. But no. 8 is good too! :) hehe

No, I haven't played that concerto, though a friend of mine is performing it with orchestra this Sunday. Great piece.
 

Ogg

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as sobriquet tried to say... Anton Bruckner is good, check him out, but guys come on Gustav Mahler is a GOD !!!!

This man wrote the most unbelievable and passionate music ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:



Mahler - Chicago symphony orchestra - with guess who conducting, a god himself Sir Georg Solti :thumbsup:
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Ogg
as sobriquet tried to say... Anton Bruckner is good, check him out, but guys come on Gustav Mahler is a GOD !!!!

This man wrote the most unbelievable and passionate music ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:



Mahler - Chicago symphony orchestra - with guess who conducting, a god himself Sir Georg Solti :thumbsup:

I was listening to Mahler on my way back home a few minutes ago


Piece of the moment that I am blasting on the stereo and loving every minute of:

Piece: The Maiden In The Tower, Opr in One Act: Scene 3
Artist: Erland Hagegard, MariAnne Haggander
Album: Sibelius: Karelia Op11; Jungfrun i tornet
Composer: sibleius of course...

THE BASS's are SICK.....contrasted by MariAnne 's beautiful opera soprano and the chorus..sh!t this stuff is great...think of Lizt but LOUDER, and even more beautiful

<---loves cl. a little too much:eek:


I sincerely don;t know why critics i nthe 20s and 30s criticized Sibelius so much. His music is not overly "bombastic" and a "mess" ..it is truely some of the most passionate and most pleasing sound that I have yet to here....some of it almost brings me to tears..because I cannot play it..only a master like Heifetz (soloist) or the London Symphony Orchestra (orchestra part) can do it justice.....

I even have the Violin Concerto in D score...by the second page I gave up..it was ridiculously difficult....yet the few parts I could play are the best combination of notes I have ever played.


 

Ogg

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Ogg
as sobriquet tried to say... Anton Bruckner is good, check him out, but guys come on Gustav Mahler is a GOD !!!!

This man wrote the most unbelievable and passionate music ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:



Mahler - Chicago symphony orchestra - with guess who conducting, a god himself Sir Georg Solti :thumbsup:

I was listening to Mahler on my way back home a few minutes ago


Piece of the moment that I am blasting on the stereo and loving every minute of:

Piece: The Maiden In The Tower, Opr in One Act: Scene 3
Artist: Erland Hagegard, MariAnne Haggander
Album: Sibelius: Karelia Op11; Jungfrun i tornet
Composer: sibleius of course...

THE BASS's are SICK.....contrasted by MariAnne 's beautiful opera soprano and the chorus..sh!t this stuff is great...

<---loves cl. a little too much:eek:


<---loves cl. a little too much:eek:???????
Naaaaaaaahhhhhh, Impossible!!!!!


:beer:
 

GrumpyMan

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I have most everything everyone has mentioned here. I'm very impressed by the amount of people that like classical on this board. Good show.
 

Goosemaster

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Symphony No. 1 In E Minor Op. , sibelius, Complete Symphonies (Kurt Sand)



this stuff..man..it makes my day..I felt like sh!t after studying Physics for hours this mornign and this stuff lifts seemingly inumerable weights off my shoulder.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I have most everything everyone has mentioned here. I'm very impressed by the amount of people that like classical on this board. Good show.

:thumbsup:

Classical is truely the most enjoyable genre for me..perhaps Jazz and ROck and such have their moments ( RATM, Radiohead, Coldplay) but in the end, the fall drastically short of the bar Classical contineus to raise....


A piece I heard by beethoven sounds completely different when listened to after Mahler, Sibelius, prokofiev, Rach and the like.....as do they after hearing Beethoven..the genius in it all becomes more and more appearant as I listen to it more and more.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I have most everything everyone has mentioned here. I'm very impressed by the amount of people that like classical on this board. Good show.

I submit that people who have never listened to classical music have never heard the real artistry and passion of music. Metallica doesn't cut it. :)
 

Goosemaster

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If someone will hsot, I have some lossless if anyone want to sample something..unfortunately I moved all my lossless to itunes so it is mostly in apple lossless.....
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I have most everything everyone has mentioned here. I'm very impressed by the amount of people that like classical on this board. Good show.

I submit that people who have never listened to classical music have never heard the real artistry and passion of music. Metallica doesn't cut it. :)

Aye. THe complexity is far beyond that of a simple elementary rythym and even multiplayer rythyms.....its jsut sick how intelligent these composers of years past were..their logic, skill, comprehension..its mind boggling....
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
I have most everything everyone has mentioned here. I'm very impressed by the amount of people that like classical on this board. Good show.

I'd have *tons* more, but I'm paying my way through school. Once I get out, my book and music collection will rival any library.
 

spunkz

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has anyone heard the Sing We Christmas album by Chanticleer. it has some of the most beautiful acapella performances i have heard to date, coupled with cathedral acoustics.

Their performance of O Magnum Mysterium by de Victoria is amazing!
 

sobriquet

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Originally posted by: Ogg
as sobriquet tried to say... Anton Bruckner is good, check him out, but guys come on Gustav Mahler is a GOD !!!!

This man wrote the most unbelievable and passionate music ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:



Mahler - Chicago symphony orchestra - with guess who conducting, a god himself Sir Georg Solti :thumbsup:

I actually just pulled Solti conducting Chicago on Mahler 5 from the Music Library here at UCLA. It's an LP made in 1970 and man oh man does it sound amazing. The combination of Clevenger on horn, Herseth on trumpet and Jacobs on tuba (my hero) is just mind-boggling. I just sat there in awe for the entirety of the recording.
 

Chaotic42

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Since we're on the subject, which recording of Messiah do you guys recommend? The Amazon.com reviews have lots of bickering in them. I want a recording of the way it's supposed to be, not an interpretation or what have you.
 

sobriquet

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Since we're on the subject, which recording of Messiah do you guys recommend? The Amazon.com reviews have lots of bickering in them. I want a recording of the way it's supposed to be, not an interpretation or what have you.

I don't think there is such a thing. Even when there are "definitive" recordings available for a work, there is some dissent. Music is such a subjective entity that the only "right" way is the way that has the greatest effect on you. Obviously some interpretations go very (too?) far, making the work a joint venture between composer and performer. The only way to find a version you like is to experiment, or of course buy the "definitive edition." Find a public library near you with some recordings, or a local university with a music library. Just as different people see different things in a single painting, different performers see different things in a single score and different listeners hear different things in a single performance.

Oh, and by the way, I hate Messiah, so I can't give any recommendations.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I submit that people who have never listened to classical music have never heard the real artistry and passion of music. Metallica doesn't cut it. :)
True. While I argue with people (like my parents) who say there are no talented "modern" (e.g. rock, metal, etc.) musicians (my personal favorite, Dream Theater, and others prove this is not so), I don't think any one of them can come near many of the classical composers in composition. It's amazing to listen to a piece for the hundredth time and still hear something new. :)

For recommendations, of the two Rachmaninoff recordings I've heard, I prefer the Philips one of Zoltan Kocsis and the San Francisco Symphony. The other one was a live recording of Martha Argerich (sp?) and ... some other orchestra; to me, the noise during the quiet parts was a little annoying. Of course, if you prefer live performances, then this might be a good one to check out (sorry I can't remember any details as I don't have that one at home).