Clark Favors Flag-Burning Amendment

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

I'm perfectly aware of how judicial review works. And it would take approximately 4 seconds for the amdendment to be challenged and brought before the courts.

you must have failed introductory gov't. if not, our schools suck

 

[wirelessenabled]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I thought burning the flag was the proper way to dispose of one.

You'd be correct. Ceremonially it would be the proper way to dispose of the Flag.

Now, I'm not at all in favor or people burning the flag in hate demonstrations, but alas - it is the freedom to do so and show your descent that makes America great.

CkG

Maybe dissent?

Seems to me the only descent that would favor an anti flag burning amendment would be a Neanderthal one.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Clark Tells Veterans He Favors Amendment to Ban Flag Burning, Breaking With Democratic Rivals

<snip>
Breaking with most of his Democratic rivals, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Tuesday he favors amending the Constitution to ban flag burning.
</snip>

CkG

It appears that Clark is simply telling his audience what they want to hear. At an American Legion. . . older crowd . . . lots of support for anti flag burning resolution. Much like when Gephardt, on the eve of the Supreme Court Affirmative Action ruling, told the NAACP that he would use executive orders to override any SC decision he didn't agree with.

How do you tell when a politician is lying . . .

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: wirelessenabled

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I thought burning the flag was the proper way to dispose of one.

You'd be correct. Ceremonially it would be the proper way to dispose of the Flag.

Now, I'm not at all in favor or people burning the flag in hate demonstrations, but alas - it is the freedom to do so and show your descent that makes America great.

CkG

Maybe dissent?

Seems to me the only descent that would favor an anti flag burning amendment would be a Neanderthal one.

Yes Mr.Spell checker. I don't type things up in M$Word and IESpell doesn't catch these things. Got anything constructive to say?

CkG

 

[Witling]

Man, I type it in AnandWord, and I often wish for a spell checker there. But I notice as I get older that I'm much more careless about homonyms. Does this happen too you two?

 

[KenGr]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: wirelessenabled

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I thought burning the flag was the proper way to dispose of one.

You'd be correct. Ceremonially it would be the proper way to dispose of the Flag.

Now, I'm not at all in favor or people burning the flag in hate demonstrations, but alas - it is the freedom to do so and show your descent that makes America great.

CkG

Maybe dissent?

Seems to me the only descent that would favor an anti flag burning amendment would be a Neanderthal one.

Yes Mr.Spell checker. I don't type things up in M$Word and IESpell doesn't catch these things. Got anything constructive to say?

CkG

I resisted the temptation when I first saw this, but I thought it may have been Freudian. Is that constructive?

 

[DaiShan]

I could never vote for clark, he is just another millitary man looking to cash in on his service, no doubt he is an upstanding guy, however we need someone with experience, and who will protect our civil liberties, clark is simply not the answer.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Whitling
It seems to me that there are only three reasons to burn the flag: (1) You need heat; (2) You need light; or (3) You want to make a political point. As much trash as we cover under the rubric of "free speech," it bothers me when a serious candidate favors banning flag burning. The exact kind of political gesture that the founding fathers meant to protect.

Only your third point is protected under the "Freedom of Speech" portion of the first ammendment. Local laws against flag burning supercede people's wants to burn the flag for your first two reasons as they are not expression (speech)

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: markuskidd
I may be seriously revealing my ignorance, but what do you mean by judial review?

Look up Marbury V Madison, read up on the history of Judicial review, this case established the Judicial branch as an effective balance against the legislative.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Clark Tells Veterans He Favors Amendment to Ban Flag Burning, Breaking With Democratic Rivals

<snip>
Breaking with most of his Democratic rivals, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Tuesday he favors amending the Constitution to ban flag burning.
</snip>

CkG

It appears that Clark is simply telling his audience what they want to hear. At an American Legion. . . older crowd . . . lots of support for anti flag burning resolution. Much like when Gephardt, on the eve of the Supreme Court Affirmative Action ruling, told the NAACP that he would use executive orders to override any SC decision he didn't agree with.

How do you tell when a politician is lying . . .

Just like when Bush repeated over and over again that when he was President wqe would not be the Worlods Policemen. Some say that 9/11 changed that but all you have to do is look at all the Neo Cons he has in his Administration then itsa obvious that he never meant to keep that promise as the NeoCons main Agenda was to be the "Worlds Policeman" which they could
implement their Agenda of Pax Americana..spread American Values throughout the World even by force if necessary.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
to paraphrase moonbeam: the day you can't burn the flag is the day you should.

I didn't see that. Excellent Moonie. Amazing once is a Blue Moon he actually makes sense.

Edit: Also obviously Clark is another one that feels the only job is to make as many new Laws etc as possibly can while in Office. We have got to get off this Mentality. We are overlawing the U.S. right out of existence.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Clark Tells Veterans He Favors Amendment to Ban Flag Burning, Breaking With Democratic Rivals

<snip>
Breaking with most of his Democratic rivals, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Tuesday he favors amending the Constitution to ban flag burning.
</snip>

CkG

It appears that Clark is simply telling his audience what they want to hear. At an American Legion. . . older crowd . . . lots of support for anti flag burning resolution. Much like when Gephardt, on the eve of the Supreme Court Affirmative Action ruling, told the NAACP that he would use executive orders to override any SC decision he didn't agree with.

How do you tell when a politician is lying . . .

Just like when Bush repeated over and over again that when he was President wqe would not be the Worlods Policemen. Some say that 9/11 changed that but all you have to do is look at all the Neo Cons he has in his Administration then itsa obvious that he never meant to keep that promise as the NeoCons main Agenda was to be the "Worlds Policeman" which they could
implement their Agenda of Pax Americana..spread American Values throughout the World even by force if necessary.

No, not really the same. GW repeated that over and over again whereas Gephardt hasn't repeated that little gem again and we'll have to see if Clark backs away from his statement to the American Legion or repeats it anywhere else.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Clark Tells Veterans He Favors Amendment to Ban Flag Burning, Breaking With Democratic Rivals

<snip>
Breaking with most of his Democratic rivals, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Tuesday he favors amending the Constitution to ban flag burning.
</snip>

CkG

It appears that Clark is simply telling his audience what they want to hear. At an American Legion. . . older crowd . . . lots of support for anti flag burning resolution. Much like when Gephardt, on the eve of the Supreme Court Affirmative Action ruling, told the NAACP that he would use executive orders to override any SC decision he didn't agree with.

How do you tell when a politician is lying . . .

Just like when Bush repeated over and over again that when he was President wqe would not be the Worlods Policemen. Some say that 9/11 changed that but all you have to do is look at all the Neo Cons he has in his Administration then itsa obvious that he never meant to keep that promise as the NeoCons main Agenda was to be the "Worlds Policeman" which they could
implement their Agenda of Pax Americana..spread American Values throughout the World even by force if necessary.

No, not really the same. GW repeated that over and over again whereas Gephardt hasn't repeated that little gem again and we'll have to see if Clark backs away from his statement to the American Legion or repeats it anywhere else.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Clark Tells Veterans He Favors Amendment to Ban Flag Burning, Breaking With Democratic Rivals

<snip>
Breaking with most of his Democratic rivals, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said Tuesday he favors amending the Constitution to ban flag burning.
</snip>

CkG

It appears that Clark is simply telling his audience what they want to hear. At an American Legion. . . older crowd . . . lots of support for anti flag burning resolution. Much like when Gephardt, on the eve of the Supreme Court Affirmative Action ruling, told the NAACP that he would use executive orders to override any SC decision he didn't agree with.

How do you tell when a politician is lying . . .

Just like when Bush repeated over and over again that when he was President wqe would not be the Worlods Policemen. Some say that 9/11 changed that but all you have to do is look at all the Neo Cons he has in his Administration then itsa obvious that he never meant to keep that promise as the NeoCons main Agenda was to be the "Worlds Policeman" which they could
implement their Agenda of Pax Americana..spread American Values throughout the World even by force if necessary.

No, not really the same. GW repeated that over and over again whereas Gephardt hasn't repeated that little gem again and we'll have to see if Clark backs away from his statement to the American Legion or repeats it anywhere else.

I see your point Dave

 

[markuskidd]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: markuskidd
I may be seriously revealing my ignorance, but what do you mean by judial review?

Look up Marbury V Madison, read up on the history of Judicial review, this case established the Judicial branch as an effective balance against the legislative.

I'm familiar with that, just couldn't see how it would apply to an amendment being passed... and it turns out that judicial review *doesn't* apply. Glad to know all is right in the world... sort of