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Claim About Biden?s Wealth Hits the Mark

GroundedSailor

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Claim About Biden?s Wealth Hits the Mark

Biden is ?one of the least wealthy members? of the Senate.
? Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, in an Aug. 24 TV interview


Wealth has taken a beating in this presidential campaign as John McCain tries to paint Barack Obama as an elitist and Obama fires back that McCain is so rich he can?t keep track of how many houses he owns.

And just a day after Obama named Joseph R. Biden Jr. , D-Del., as his vice presidential running mate, Dean appeared on C-SPAN highlighting not only Biden?s assets but also his lack of assets, financially speaking.

?Joe Biden has certainly been a good example of a working-class kid who grew up and got himself a scholarship to a great university, worked really hard and has really made good,? Dean said. ?One of the least wealthy members of the U.S. Senate, I think he remembers his roots and I think he?d tell you what a great country this is given his own experiences.?

Biden is a career politician. His main income is his salary as a U.S. senator. According to financial disclosure forms submitted May 15, Biden?s $165,200 salary as a senator in 2007 was supplemented with $20,500 he earned as an adjunct professor at Widener University Law School and a $112,500 advance from Random House Publishers for his book, ?Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics.?

Biden?s financial picture gets a little fuzzier after that, because although each senator?s financial disclosure statement includes assets, liabilities and earnings, the form does not require exact figures.Instead, officials check off a range under which each item falls.

So we know he has some income from several bank accounts, mutual funds and insurance policies. But he also lists liabilities, including loans against cash value of life insurance policies, $15,001-$50,000; a loan he co-signed to pay for his son?s college expenses, $15,001-$50,000; and a line of credit with the J. Wilmington Savings Fund Society for somewhere between $100,001 and $250,000.


The Center for Responsive Politics analyzes the possible ranges of net worth among senators, and in 2006 it determined that Biden?s net worth was somewhere between negative $302,980 and $277,997. But keep in mind, senators don?t have to declare the value of their primary residence. Property records show that Biden?s three-bedroom Wilmington, Del., home has an assessed value of $525,700.

Still, in 2006, the disclosed numbers ranked Biden dead last among U.S. senators.

?In the most recent rankings, 2006, he was the least wealthy, poorest I guess you could say, of the senators,? said Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research group. The center has not yet completed its rankings for 2007, but Ritsch said he has seen Biden?s 2007 report and his net worth ?hasn?t changed much. I suspect he?s still at the bottom of the list.?

It?s a heady list. Senators had a median net worth of about $1.7 million in 2006, and 58 percent of the members rated as millionaires, according to an analysis by the Center for Responsive Politics.

So where are the guys at the top of the tickets?

In 2006, Obama?s net worth was estimated at somewhere between $456,012 and $1,142,000, according to a CRP analysis. That earned him a ranking of 67th. But it?s a ranking that is sure to go up. Obama?s 2007 tax return showed earnings of $4.2 million, based largely on the sale of his books, ?Dreams from My Father? and ?The Audacity of Hope.?

McCain rode his wife?s coattails to No. 8 in the 2006 ranking among senators, with an estimated net worth of $36.4 million. Much of McCain?s wealth comes from his wife, Cindy McCain, who is chairman of Hensley & Co., her family?s Arizona beer distributorship.

So congratulations, Sen. Biden, you are in fact one of the least, if not the least, wealthy members of the U.S. Senate. For now. We bet book sales for a vice presidential candidate will soon change that. Still, we rate Dean?s comment True.

Interesting read.

This man, who has been a US Senator for over 30 years, still needs to mortgage his house to pay for his children's education. It's almost as if he is living paycheck to paycheck. Even adding the value of his home, his net worth is less than a million dollars.

Says a lot about his personal ethics.

 
Originally posted by: loki8481
what's with people trying to make wealthy people ashamed of it?

It's more like pointing out that he hasn't totally sold out like most of congress.
 
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.


 
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.

what about his son?
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.

what about his son?

OMFG!!! Barack Obama tried to get funding for a University and a Cancer Treatment Center in his state!!! And he actually got almost $200,000 for the University!!!

Loose the Hounds!!! We must run down and punish this miscreant!!!
 
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.

what about his son?

OMFG!!! Barack Obama tried to get funding for a University and a Cancer Treatment Center in his state!!! And he actually got almost $200,000 for the University!!!

Loose the Hounds!!! We must run down and punish this miscreant!!!

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.

what about his son?

OMFG!!! Barack Obama tried to get funding for a University and a Cancer Treatment Center in his state!!! And he actually got almost $200,000 for the University!!!

Loose the Hounds!!! We must run down and punish this miscreant!!!

Cancer treatment is a favorite special interest lobby of the loony left. No surprise there.
 
A guy making $100,000 + a year living from paycheck to paycheck? Yea right.

Sounds more like he has no clue how to manage his finances.

Oh and he lives in a half a million dollar house. He might not be Ted Kennedy or John Kerry rich, but he certainly is not a poor working class stiff.
 
Quick, how many houses you got McCain? :laugh:

When the Dems contrast that gaffe with Biden's modest background, McCain'll be absolutely cooked.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A guy making $100,000 + a year living from paycheck to paycheck? Yea right.

Sounds more like he has no clue how to manage his finances.

Oh and he lives in a half a million dollar house. He might not be Ted Kennedy or John Kerry rich, but he certainly is not a poor working class stiff.

It isn't possible to be a poor working class stiff while you are in congress because the salary automatically makes it so you aren't one. I think the point is his life is a senator and nothing else, he isn't using the office to get rich.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A guy making $100,000 + a year living from paycheck to paycheck? Yea right.

Sounds more like he has no clue how to manage his finances.

Oh and he lives in a half a million dollar house. He might not be Ted Kennedy or John Kerry rich, but he certainly is not a poor working class stiff.

I said "It's almost as if he is living paycheck to paycheck" or did you miss the beginning of the sentence? I recognize he is not a poor working class stiff as you call him, but one would expect that any senior politician who is being bought would not need to take loans for kids education, or have a line of credit.

My post was suggesting his personal ethics not his wealth (or lack of).

And do you have any idea of house prices in Wilmington? It's not Florida. I live about 30 minutes away from Wilmington and half a million gets you a good single family home, not a mansion. And the price is based on 2006 values. It's probably dropped 10-15% by now.



 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Quick, how many houses you got McCain? :laugh:

When the Dems contrast that gaffe with Biden's modest background, McCain'll be absolutely cooked.

Why do the some people think bringing up McCain's houses will win them any points? In the days after news of the "gaffe" broke, McCain actually went ahead of Obama in the polls.

When you compare McCain to Obama in that respect, you are comparing a man who has 7 homes to a man who bought a multimillion dollar home with assistance from a convicted felon, vacations in an exclusive private Hawaiin resort, and made 4 million dollars last year. Not that any of that is wrong... but is this really a winning comparison?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A guy making $100,000 + a year living from paycheck to paycheck? Yea right.

Sounds more like he has no clue how to manage his finances.

Oh and he lives in a half a million dollar house. He might not be Ted Kennedy or John Kerry rich, but he certainly is not a poor working class stiff.

What is the median house value in the area he lives in? What was the value of the house when purchased?
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

You're either trolling or stupid, which one is it?
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

If he hasn't been bought for over 30 years (as his net worth shows - even after earning a six figure salary as senator) there's slim chance he will be now. Specially with a high profile job as VP.

what about his son?

OMFG!!! Barack Obama tried to get funding for a University and a Cancer Treatment Center in his state!!! And he actually got almost $200,000 for the University!!!

Loose the Hounds!!! We must run down and punish this miscreant!!!

Cancer treatment is a favorite special interest lobby of the loony left. No surprise there.


I'd rather give the money to cancer research than for more tax breaks for big oil. That may actually do some good.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.



Like you GOD Bush? Who is in the pocket of big business.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

That is just how weak YOU are.. don't project too much
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

You're either trolling or stupid, which one is it?

You're either gay or a nun, which one is it?

See how that works?
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

That is just how weak YOU are.. don't project too much

*shrug* All throughout history, even back to the founding fathers, the wealthy were the ones spearheading the revolution, running the government and looking out for everyone else.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Nebor
His lack of income and wealth make him easily persuaded and bought off with money. Only the wealthy belong in government, as they aren't subject to such persuasions, and they are best able to put the interests of others, and not themselves, first.

You're either trolling or stupid, which one is it?

You're either gay or a nun, which one is it?

See how that works?

Let me break it down. What you wrote was incredibly stupid. You would either have to be insanely ignorant or the victim of a head injury to say that only the wealthy belong in government, so I figured I would give you an out by having you admit you were just trolling.

In some ways I hope that you actually believe that, because then I can make all sorts of fun of you. In other ways though I'm worried because I remember that you're trying to be an officer in the military and I know that if you're ever in charge of any of my friends they probably aren't going to be able to hide their contempt for your stupidity, and they might end up getting some NJP on your behalf... and that makes me sad.
 
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