Civilization V Coming This Fall

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minmaster

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instead of getting rid of stacking, they should put limits on how many people can be on the same tile at once.
 

jlee

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Nice!! I was just looking not too long ago to see if there was a new Civ coming out...this is awesome.
 

lozina

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WHAAAAAT ?!

Hex tiles ?!

Ranged Bombardment ?!

No more stacks of doom ?!

Limited Resources ?!


THEY HAVE INFILTRATED MY MIND AND ARE FEEDING OFF MY DREAMS!

GET THEM OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
 

acheron

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If you never played with some of the AI mods you should look into them as they make the game much more challenging at lower levels without cheating.

That said here's an interesting post, I don't know how legit it is:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5753192&postcount=23

According to that thread, sounds like Jon Shafer is the lead designer. Wherever I read that Sid was going to be must have been confused. Shafer was the lead designer for the Beyond the Sword expansion, which IMO is good news, since BTS was pretty awesome.
 

Daverino

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Hmph. I'm going to reserve judgment. I like to play the peaceful/culture/tech game more than the playing it as a war game. It seems that they are moving the emphasis to a war game. I love conquering civilizations with culture and building massive wealth by being the religious center of the world.
 

paperfist

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According to that thread, sounds like Jon Shafer is the lead designer. Wherever I read that Sid was going to be must have been confused. Shafer was the lead designer for the Beyond the Sword expansion, which IMO is good news, since BTS was pretty awesome.

I think you read the first post like I did:

"In addition to Civilization V, Firaxis Games is also currently developing Sid Meier's Civilization Network, a Civ game for Facebook. With Sid Meier leading design, Civilization Network will offer yet another option for world domination to both the casual gamer and the biggest fans of the series. It's another way to access the famously addictive world of Civilization."

They meant Sid is lead design on Civ Network not Civ 5. Not sure why they lobbed the 2 together, but it made it seem like Sid was involved with Civ again.

That's a good point about BTS and Shafer, that expansion was pretty brilliant and more like a stand alone game so Civ5 should be in good hands.
 

jdjbuffalo

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If you never played with some of the AI mods you should look into them as they make the game much more challenging at lower levels without cheating.

That said here's an interesting post, I don't know how legit it is:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showpost.php?p=5753192&postcount=23

Reading the Civ5-thread in Paradox Interactive's OT, a Danish guy has written down some info given in a Danish magazine:

Quote:
- Switch from squares to hexagons changing the way the game plays. More room for maneuvers and more tactical options.
- Changes to combat. More depth in combat, no more stacking of units. This will lead to bigger focus on terrain.
- Inspired by Panzer General.
- Reintroduction of Bombardment, now archers and siege equipment can shoot over melee units.
- Better diplomatic AI.
- More diplomatic options between players.
- Less "cheating" AI.
- Religion is not a factor anymore.
- Ressources are not infinite. For example one source of horse only supplies enough horses for 1 unit, but when that horseman dies the horses will respawn as a unit. (this confused me alittle, i guess we will have to watch it in action)
- City States as a sort of small countries that never develop beyond their single city. They can provide bonusses if you befriend them, or you can take over their land.
- Civics are out, now there is something called "Social Policies".
- About the same amount of wonders, the tech tree will feel familiar. Great People still in.
- Some victory conditions changed. For example in Conquest you only have to capture all the other capitals. Eliminates boring mop up phase.
- Unique Civ leader bonusses, no more standard "Spiritual" or "Financial".
- DirectX 11 support.
- Built in webbrowser. Sid Meier is also working on a facebook application of Civilization.
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"- Less "cheating" AI."

It looks like religion has been taken out :(

City states sound pretty interesting as does ranged bombardment and archers.

Overall it sounds and looks awesome! I've spent so many nights saying "just one more turn :D".

If the statements above are correct then a I worried about the two bolded parts.

I like that they are getting rid of the "stacks of doom" but at the same time we need easy ways to move lots of units. Also does that mean it's going to take 20 turns to take a city because you've got to keep moving units in and out of the the closest hex?

The resources issue is very worrisome. For the horses example, do you have to keep an army of workers ready to "build a pasture" for the next crop of horses to show up? What happens when you're in the middle of a war and building a Calvary brigade only to lose all your horse resources. What do you do then?
 

CraigRT

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OMG awesome!
I've played every Civ since the first one on a single floppy disc. All were great.
 

ManBearPig

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question: is it worth playing the original Civ IV if you have the expansions? Wouldnt it make the most sense to play the games that have extra stuff (in this case beyond the sword, since its the newest)?
 

sandorski

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Hmph. I'm going to reserve judgment. I like to play the peaceful/culture/tech game more than the playing it as a war game. It seems that they are moving the emphasis to a war game. I love conquering civilizations with culture and building massive wealth by being the religious center of the world.

Ya, that's the way I prefer to Play as well. Only time I get Militaristic is when someone decides to Attack me. Then I like to annihilate them or at least do double what they did to me.
 

paperfist

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question: is it worth playing the original Civ IV if you have the expansions? Wouldnt it make the most sense to play the games that have extra stuff (in this case beyond the sword, since its the newest)?

The BTS expansion pretty much doubled the original's content adding stuff like corporations, espionage, a whole bunch of new wonders, leaders and other changes that to me anyway there was no point in going back to the original.

Also Beyond the Sword has all the content of Warlords so you could skip that and BTS has some of the best scenarios I've ever played in Civ.
 

Exterous

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Just... One... More... Turn...
*5 hours later*
Just... One.. More... Turn...
*2 hours later*
Zzzzzz on keyboard.
*5 minutes later*
Morning alarm goes off.

Heh. The original Civ was my first computer game addiction so this does not bode well for my wife.

And I really really liked Panzer Generals so if they merge in this combat aspect right this could be a really awesome game
 

TheVrolok

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I feel dirty saying it, but I have never played a Civ game. I did adore Alpha Centuri though!
 

Tifosi248F1

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Announcement trailer here: http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/62125...videos/civilization5_trl_announce_022510.html plus some screenshots on IGN

Official site @ http://www.civilization5.com contains a few screenshots

Can't wait for this. Wasted so many hours on 4, gonna waste even more on 5. Looks like it's shaping up to be a good one. Some interesting changes like a hex tiles and circular city instead of square/cross, plus ranged attacks for certain units.


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Dorkenstein

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Wasn't he one of the guys who kind of ragged on games/gamers in general, even though he gets lots of work that way?
 

Tifosi248F1

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Aww man. I checked dates as far back as the 23rd and didn't see anything. Serves me right for not doing a search. Delete this or merge it or whatever.