Civil Union support because of Faith?

[CADsortaGUY]

Dean Says Faith Swayed Decision on Gay Unions
But wait...
Dean Didn't Mention Faith in 2000 Speech

2 stories - two takes on the decision. I guess AP has it out for dean

I personally don't think "Faith" had anything to do with his decision, because I think he did it as an "equal rights" type thing....although I don't agree with that premise at all.

bash/defend away

CkG

 

[glenn1]

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

Howard, Howard, Howard. For your own sake, you need to stop shooting off your big mouth about things which will only make you look like an idiot. Speaking on religious points of view needs be one of the top things on your list NOT to talk about, because you suck at it.

 

[sandorski]

Mountain/Molehill

Does everyone give credit to every influence with each decision? The second article seems self-explanatory as to why he may have not mentioned it, it's just not a Vermont thing.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: glenn1

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

Howard, Howard, Howard. For your own sake, you need to stop shooting off your big mouth about things which will only make you look like an idiot. Speaking on religious points of view needs be one of the top things on your list NOT to talk about, because you suck at it.

well he does have a point

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Well . . . if current trends are any indication . . . the American public isn't very interested in reasoning anyway.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Well . . . if current trends are any indication . . . the American public isn't very interested in reasoning anyway.

Sly attempt at saying the public is stupid?

CkG

 

[Genesys]

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

1. You're assuming God actually creates people
2. If God does create people, you're assuming that you know how he goes about it.
3. Genetics could cause homosexuality although the research in that area has been inconclusive thus far.

 

[Cerb]

Lefties want Dean becauser they like him.
Righties and moderates want Dean because he makes *any* other candidate look better, including our (sometimes) good ol' GWB.
That's about it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Read it.

Of course you have control over your "decisions", that's just the point. What is a "decision" and what is not?

What if no chicks are "hot"? What if a dude seems "hot"?

Hermaphrodytes(sp)(those born with both sexual organs) are an interesting study on sexuality and the "choice" issue. The reason is that traditionally(probably still) parents would choose a sex for the child, then the doctor would perform the necessary procedure to physically shape the child into that sex. It was thought at that time, that if a child would be raised a certain way(boy or girl) then that was the way they would be. Unfortunetly, that proved not to always be true. Many Hermaphrodytes, totally unaware of the condition they were born with, always felt odd, as if they were the opposite sex. They were attracted to the same sex, they acted like the opposite, they were not comfortable as the sex they physically were given. Now you can throw words around like "decision", "Free Will", and others all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that things are not as easy as you seem to think they are.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

but you do control on how you act on your attractions/thoughts/feelings. if you know it's wrong [morally unacceptable or socially unacceptable or however you wish to determine what is right and what is wrong] then DONT DO IT. We all know that doing drugs are both morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable, and so far the majority of America thinks that homosexuality is morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable. Therefore, dont do drugs and dont drill other dudes in the butt [or muff dive if you're of the female persuasion]

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

1. You're assuming God actually creates people
2. If God does create people, you're assuming that you know how he goes about it.
3. Genetics could cause homosexuality although the research in that area has been inconclusive thus far.

1) you're assuming im talking about the Christian God.
2) since you based your post on the assumption that im talking about the Christian God, then from the Holy Bible, it says that homosexuals are an abomination to God
3) remember the scientific method, and some terms related to science: nothing in science is ever proven, the results only support or thwart the hypothesis.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

but you do control on how you act on your attractions/thoughts/feelings. if you know it's wrong [morally unacceptable or socially unacceptable or however you wish to determine what is right and what is wrong] then DONT DO IT. We all know that doing drugs are both morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable, and so far the majority of America thinks that homosexuality is morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable. Therefore, dont do drugs and dont drill other dudes in the butt [or muff dive if you're of the female persuasion]

Ah, the good 'ol "well I'm pretty sure the majority thinks this way so it must be right" argument. The majority also thought it was socially acceptable to keep the n!ggers down. The majority in Nazi Germany thought it was socially acceptable to exterminate Jews.
Basing your argument on what's morally acceptable by the majority is as weak as wet newspaper.

Furthermore, what IS your argument? Or are you just bashing Howie and gays for no particular reason as usual?

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Well . . . if current trends are any indication . . . the American public isn't very interested in reasoning anyway.

Sly attempt at saying the public is stupid?

CkG

I thought that was a given and really went without saying....

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

but you do control on how you act on your attractions/thoughts/feelings. if you know it's wrong [morally unacceptable or socially unacceptable or however you wish to determine what is right and what is wrong] then DONT DO IT. We all know that doing drugs are both morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable, and so far the majority of America thinks that homosexuality is morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable. Therefore, dont do drugs and dont drill other dudes in the butt [or muff dive if you're of the female persuasion]

Ah, the good 'ol "well I'm pretty sure the majority thinks this way so it must be right" argument. The majority also thought it was socially acceptable to keep the n!ggers down. The majority in Nazi Germany thought it was socially acceptable to exterminate Jews.
Basing your argument on what's morally acceptable by the majority is as weak as wet newspaper.

Furthermore, what IS your argument? Or are you just bashing Howie and gays for no particular reason as usual?

well, its kind of a different argument when you start trying to tie in oppression of black people and their plight to get treated equally in society with homosexuals and their plight to have their choices deemed acceptable by society. and no, the majority in Nazi Germany didnt really think it was acceptable to exterminate Jews, do some research on the subject. Hitler thought it was fine and dandy, the SS thought it was fine and dandy, but the majority of Nazi Germany were Christian or Catholic and had conflicting views on Jew extermination. They liked that Hitler had brought Germany back to her former glory and that they were going to make the Allies pay for the Versailles treaty, but they didnt like the Jew extermination [it was either shut up and take it or join the Jews in the extermination camps]

if youre going to start comparing homosexuals and their 'plight' to that of black people and that of Jews, then im going to start equating homosexuality to murder and thievery and child molestation. and we all know how that goes, you lefties start balking at that and saying that its ludicrous for me to do such because murder and thievery are destructive while homosexuallity is not. well, if its not ok for me to make such decision based comparisons, then its not ok for you to make wild exaggerations by comparing OPPRESSION and GENOCIDE to intolerance.

and how do you think the US got to where it is today, by throwing out our moral beliefs and acting on every little whim that our hearts desired? oh no my friend, if we go down this path then we are going to open up a whole pandoras box, pretty soon we'll be caving to demands by polygamists [sp?], pedophiles, and necrophiliacs.



oh, and my argument is this, homosexuality is not acceptable [either morally or socially] so therefore it gets no special treatments or acknowledgements.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

but you do control on how you act on your attractions/thoughts/feelings. if you know it's wrong [morally unacceptable or socially unacceptable or however you wish to determine what is right and what is wrong] then DONT DO IT. We all know that doing drugs are both morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable, and so far the majority of America thinks that homosexuality is morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable. Therefore, dont do drugs and dont drill other dudes in the butt [or muff dive if you're of the female persuasion]

Ah, the good 'ol "well I'm pretty sure the majority thinks this way so it must be right" argument. The majority also thought it was socially acceptable to keep the n!ggers down. The majority in Nazi Germany thought it was socially acceptable to exterminate Jews.
Basing your argument on what's morally acceptable by the majority is as weak as wet newspaper.

Furthermore, what IS your argument? Or are you just bashing Howie and gays for no particular reason as usual?

well, its kind of a different argument when you start trying to tie in oppression of black people and their plight to get treated equally in society with homosexuals and their plight to have their choices deemed acceptable by society. and no, the majority in Nazi Germany didnt really think it was acceptable to exterminate Jews, do some research on the subject. Hitler thought it was fine and dandy, the SS thought it was fine and dandy, but the majority of Nazi Germany were Christian or Catholic and had conflicting views on Jew extermination. They liked that Hitler had brought Germany back to her former glory and that they were going to make the Allies pay for the Versailles treaty, but they didnt like the Jew extermination [it was either shut up and take it or join the Jews in the extermination camps]

if youre going to start comparing homosexuals and their 'plight' to that of black people and that of Jews, then im going to start equating homosexuality to murder and thievery and child molestation. and we all know how that goes, you lefties start balking at that and saying that its ludicrous for me to do such because murder and thievery are destructive while homosexuallity is not. well, if its not ok for me to make such decision based comparisons, then its not ok for you to make wild exaggerations by comparing OPPRESSION and GENOCIDE to intolerance.

and how do you think the US got to where it is today, by throwing out our moral beliefs and acting on every little whim that our hearts desired? oh no my friend, if we go down this path then we are going to open up a whole pandoras box, pretty soon we'll be caving to demands by polygamists [sp?], pedophiles, and necrophiliacs.



oh, and my argument is this, homosexuality is not acceptable [either morally or socially] so therefore it gets no special treatments or acknowledgements.

Of course I'm not equating the fact that homosexuals can't get married to what happened to black people in this country or Jews in Germany. I was merely pointing out that your argument is weak and I used examples where that argument was used but obviously wrong.

Its fine that you don't think homosexuality is acceptable, but I, along with millions of other Americans, do. The fact of the matter is that there will eventually be gay marriage in this country, because there is no secular argument against it (that came straight from a conservative pundit's mouth). Granting a marriage license to two people who happen to be gay is not giving them special treatment or acknowledgement. Its treating them equally like other consenting all other adults.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Genesys

"From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."

lol, Howard, have you ever heard of a silly little idea called free will? God doesnt make gay and straight people, God just makes people and lets them choose their path through life.

and glenn1, you're right, he does suck at it.

"Free will" is all fine and dandy, when applied appropriately. It has been documented quite thoroughly how sexual orientation is not so easily defined through studies of hermaphrodites. What Dean said was a matter of opinion, some would say fact, concerning sexual orientation. Given that opinion, he did what his religion has taught him, Tolerance.

im having a little bit of trouble trying to get anything out of your post. it just looks like meaningless words cobbled together to seem vaguely intelligent.

here, let me ask you these: do you have no control over what decisions you're going to make throughout your life? it's not under your control weather or not you're going to ask that hot chick out on a date? it's not under you're control to continue a relationship with that hot chick? it's not under your control weather you ask a guy or girl out? it's not a matter of your will, but a matter of your genes that determines what your choices are going be, thats basically what im getting from your post, and all this nonsense that is released as a scientific study concerning these matters.

Those are all the wrong questions. You should ask if a person has control over who they're sexually attracted to. The answer to that is of course no.

but you do control on how you act on your attractions/thoughts/feelings. if you know it's wrong [morally unacceptable or socially unacceptable or however you wish to determine what is right and what is wrong] then DONT DO IT. We all know that doing drugs are both morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable, and so far the majority of America thinks that homosexuality is morally unacceptable and socially unacceptable. Therefore, dont do drugs and dont drill other dudes in the butt [or muff dive if you're of the female persuasion]

Ah, the good 'ol "well I'm pretty sure the majority thinks this way so it must be right" argument. The majority also thought it was socially acceptable to keep the n!ggers down. The majority in Nazi Germany thought it was socially acceptable to exterminate Jews.
Basing your argument on what's morally acceptable by the majority is as weak as wet newspaper.

Furthermore, what IS your argument? Or are you just bashing Howie and gays for no particular reason as usual?

well, its kind of a different argument when you start trying to tie in oppression of black people and their plight to get treated equally in society with homosexuals and their plight to have their choices deemed acceptable by society. and no, the majority in Nazi Germany didnt really think it was acceptable to exterminate Jews, do some research on the subject. Hitler thought it was fine and dandy, the SS thought it was fine and dandy, but the majority of Nazi Germany were Christian or Catholic and had conflicting views on Jew extermination. They liked that Hitler had brought Germany back to her former glory and that they were going to make the Allies pay for the Versailles treaty, but they didnt like the Jew extermination [it was either shut up and take it or join the Jews in the extermination camps]

if youre going to start comparing homosexuals and their 'plight' to that of black people and that of Jews, then im going to start equating homosexuality to murder and thievery and child molestation. and we all know how that goes, you lefties start balking at that and saying that its ludicrous for me to do such because murder and thievery are destructive while homosexuallity is not. well, if its not ok for me to make such decision based comparisons, then its not ok for you to make wild exaggerations by comparing OPPRESSION and GENOCIDE to intolerance.

and how do you think the US got to where it is today, by throwing out our moral beliefs and acting on every little whim that our hearts desired? oh no my friend, if we go down this path then we are going to open up a whole pandoras box, pretty soon we'll be caving to demands by polygamists [sp?], pedophiles, and necrophiliacs.



oh, and my argument is this, homosexuality is not acceptable [either morally or socially] so therefore it gets no special treatments or acknowledgements.

 

[SNC]

I think that homosexuality is a defense system. So that people that are defective in some way shape or form, don?t reproduce.
Sort of natures own gene pool maintenance.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Somehow even troll doesn't seem sufficient to describe this floater.

 

[SNC]

I guess I could have worded it a little differently to make it a little less blunt for those of you with soft ears. But since you commented......What other description would you give Doc for an uncontrollable condition that would cause someone to be attracted to a member of the human race that they can not reproduce with. Are you saying that my thoughts on homosexuality are completely wrong and fact less? If so, prove the opposite. To borrow a line from your sig:
?The only ethical principle which has made science possible is that the truth shall be told all the time.?
If there is no way to prove or disprove your feelings/thoughts on the subject. Who is right and who is wrong. Where is the science to back any of ether of our positions? There is NONE! So it boils down to nothing more than what you feel and believe. Will you condemn me for my thoughts, and justify that because you feel differently. Now who is the troll?
I am not a homophobe and I don?t care what you do in your bed. This is a forum to express ideas and thoughts. If your thoughts and ideas are the only right ones, what?s the need for such a place?

Flame suit on.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: SNC
I think that homosexuality is a defense system. So that people that are defective in some way shape or form, don?t reproduce.
Sort of natures own gene pool maintenance.

lol, ive never thought of it that way. quite a unique view to say the least

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Why is everyone so concerned with what other *consenting adults* like to do in their private sexual lives? Aren't you the same people who always bitch about your precious privacy rights? I don't know what kind of lives you lead, but I've got far more important issues to worry about than what Joe and Tom across town are doing in their bedroom tonight.

Jeez.

Jason