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Civ IV is great isnt it :)

Maximilian

Maximilian

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I got the complete edition on steam im playing on a huge map with the maximum number of AI's although from the looks of things some may have been wiped out already. Cant do this with civ V because it bogs down, also cant do this with sins of a solar empire because it only uses 1 fecking core and bogs down as a result :thumbsdown: I like it when i can maximize map size and number of AI's in a game, makes it more fun.

I dont really remember if this was possible with vanilla civ IV when it first came out though.

Anyone got any tips? Im having a bit of trouble with the UI overall, i cant tell what civs were wiped out (would like to know for curiositys sake), i dont know how espionage works im able to perform spy missions but my understanding of it ends there, i dont know what resources are available to me. I have a good idea because of what im able to build (tanks, nukes etc) but theres no screen showing what i have. Also corporations are a bit of a mystery to me.
 
In response to your thread title: No, it not great. It's good but having played since Civ 1, I can safely say I had much more fun with Civ 1 and Civ 2.

With Civ games, I find that the best way to learn is to play. Most things can be picked up by playing. It's been quite a while since I dipped my toes into Civ 4 so unfortunately I'm as much use as a chocolate fireguard in this respect.

PS. I found the scenarios in BTS to be much more fun, especially the space one.
 
Maximilian said:
Cant do this with civ V because it bogs down, also cant do this with sins of a solar empire because it only uses 1 fecking core and bogs down as a result.
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What are your rig's specs? I guess you could have a problem if you play with 9 AIs on the Huge Random Multistar map or have fleet size set to Large.

Here are some things you might do:

1. Set fleet sizes to Small.

2. Get the Sins Optimization mod. It reduces the strain on the system. You can find it here:

http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/378149/

3. If you have a dual or multi-core machine, lock Sins (Affinity) to one of the cores and set it to "High" priority. Also, set any other significant programs to the other cores or just close them. You can do this in the Task Manager.

I've heard that the next Diplomacy patch reduces the amount of demand on system resources.

If you want interesting and challenging games and if you have the Diplomacy expansion, you might consider logging onto Ironclad Online and learning to play it against other people. You can find 4v4s and 5v5s every night, and they can be wild and crazy fun. It only takes 1:15-1:45 to play one of these. Here's a link to a replay of an epic game I was in last night (as "Haywood Yablowme"). It's a chance to see what a real Sins game (without silly, often suicidal, and tactic-less AIs) looks like.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20026677/Wild_Crazy
 
Civ IV was a good game, perhaps the best of the Civ games. Gal Civ II was the best 4X game I have played yet though. It is too bad that Civ 5 took a step back from Civ 4. It would have been nice to be able to play a civilization style game with the options and AI of Gal Civ, but alas it didn't happen.
 
AstroManLuca said:
Sheesh, Civ V bogs down on your setup? It must be coded really badly.
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I dont even think it uses all the resources available to it, it the end of turn that takes forever, other people also have been complaining about it.

WhipperSnapper said:
What are your rig's specs? I guess you could have a problem if you play with 9 AIs on the Huge Random Multistar map or have fleet size set to Large.

Here are some things you might do:

1. Set fleet sizes to Small.

2. Get the Sins Optimization mod. It reduces the strain on the system. You can find it here:

http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/378149/

3. If you have a dual or multi-core machine, lock Sins (Affinity) to one of the cores and set it to "High" priority. Also, set any other significant programs to the other cores or just close them. You can do this in the Task Manager.

I've heard that the next Diplomacy patch reduces the amount of demand on system resources.

If you want interesting and challenging games and if you have the Diplomacy expansion, you might consider logging onto Ironclad Online and learning to play it against other people. You can find 4v4s and 5v5s every night, and they can be wild and crazy fun. It only takes 1:15-1:45 to play one of these. Here's a link to a replay of an epic game I was in last night (as "Haywood Yablowme"). It's a chance to see what a real Sins game (without silly, often suicidal, and tactic-less AIs) looks like.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20026677/Wild_Crazy
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Specs are the gaming rig in my sig. It runs better when i overclock to 3.6ghz but its still only using 1 core when it really needs two or more. Its always 25% in the task manager, windows divides the load between all 4 cores but sins always only see's and uses 1, which is why im really anticipating a sins 2 which has multicore support. Fantastic game its right up there with civ for me but i would love to fight large scale vs tons of AI's which isnt possible. People with overclocked sandy bridge setups would fare better but i dont think they would manage a huge map with maximum vicious AI's, it will take ivy bridge or haswell for that. Or better yet a multicore patch. I have tried playing with optimization and setting fleet sizes to small but i still have to play on a large map instead of huge with less AI's maybe 4-5 AI's which dosent totally bog down but it does slow significantly.

I cant deal with humans in this type of game 😛 Once the fight is over its over and theres no comeback, plus even if im the winner the enemy just quits its not satisfying to me, i want to romp through their systems trashing everything. I prefer RTS games like company of heros for online play which is fast (kind of) yet games can last for over an hour and comebacks are very possible. Plus when the games over im generally satisfied with the amount of stuff ive been able to destroy 🙂 I like the silly suicidal AI because otherwise my occulus stabases wouldn't have any fleets to eat 🙁
 
Im many hours into a marathon game of civ IV here, im gearing up for nuclear world war II vs the other continent on the map but global warming is becoming a problem, can i clean it up or undo it somehow??

I remember in civ III i could clean the orange goo up but this desertification in civ IV is a bit tougher to handle.
 
Maximilian said:
Im many hours into a marathon game of civ IV here, im gearing up for nuclear world war II vs the other continent on the map but global warming is becoming a problem, can i clean it up or undo it somehow??

I remember in civ III i could clean the orange goo up but this desertification in civ IV is a bit tougher to handle.
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You need ecology tech to scrub fallout. It will go away in like 10 turns or something by itself.

Some hints for nuclear war in Civ4:
-If you have a substantial lead over enemy, nuke each of his cities 3-4 times and you can get him to capitulate in the same turn.
-If it is late in the game and the AI has SDI, use tactical nukes from subs.
-If you are expecting to be nuked in retaliation, get SDI, bunkers in all cities.
-No way to get around global warming, sorry. If you go crazy with the nukes be prepared to lose city population :/
 
CIV IV is awesome. One of my favorite games of all time.

And there are tons of excellent mods out for it. almost wish I didnt install it for Civ 5.

After you have played vanilla a bit , check out Fall From Heaven and Orbis. Amazing mods.
 
Maximilian said:
Im many hours into a marathon game of civ IV here, im gearing up for nuclear world war II vs the other continent on the map but global warming is becoming a problem, can i clean it up or undo it somehow??

I remember in civ III i could clean the orange goo up but this desertification in civ IV is a bit tougher to handle.
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hm. I think I always did a space victory before I got to this point. If you've divided the whole world in half, you've probably got at least 4 cities with massive production by now.
 
CivIV is in my top 3 computer games of all time. I liked 2 as well (1 was "good for its time", but not nearly as fun as 2 or 4). I still cry myself to sleep at night over civ5, what a piece of crap.
 
I have only played Civ III. What makes IV so much better, or what made III so bad? I never see anyone say III was the best or good.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how to consistently win in a vanilla game with the warlord or noble difficulty setting. Sigh, I just don't have the time to sink into learning this game.
 
CU said:
I have only played Civ III. What makes IV so much better, or what made III so bad? I never see anyone say III was the best or good.
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It's hard to describe what makes Civ4 so good. It is just really well balanced with gameplay elements that make it fun and enjoyable, just like Rise of Nations (both designed by Brian Reynolds). Every turn there is something to improve and nothing feels like a chore. And the AI plays pretty well and predictably, its possible to make lasting friendships and alliances but if you aren't careful can still get your ass handed to you.
 
Born2bwire said:
I'm still trying to figure out how to consistently win in a vanilla game with the warlord or noble difficulty setting. Sigh, I just don't have the time to sink into learning this game.
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Try watching some of TheMeInTeam's replays on youtube. They are kind of long but you can just watch the first couple parts of some particular game and get some of the basic strategies down.
 
QuantumPion said:
You need ecology tech to scrub fallout. It will go away in like 10 turns or something by itself.

Some hints for nuclear war in Civ4:
-If you have a substantial lead over enemy, nuke each of his cities 3-4 times and you can get him to capitulate in the same turn.
-If it is late in the game and the AI has SDI, use tactical nukes from subs.
-If you are expecting to be nuked in retaliation, get SDI, bunkers in all cities.
-No way to get around global warming, sorry. If you go crazy with the nukes be prepared to lose city population :/
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Ive tried nuking the main guy but hes got SDI so thats a no go, his two vassals which take up a good chunk of the continent dont have SDI 🙂 so they took the bulk of my nuclear attack, when i landed with my 120 modern armour and secured a few of the vassals citys to prepare to take the rest of the continent the main guy shows up to help his vassal with a choppers and tanks combo and wasted everything i had! He got his though because his SDI didnt stop 2 of 6 nukes i fired hitting his army! I lost my remaining 2-3 modern armour to my own nukes but it was worth it, lost the 4 cities i took too.

So lesson learned, tank spam dosent work for me like it did in civ III, many many turns later with intermittent nuclear attacks on the vassals to let them know im still around and the main guy attempting some pretty successful landings on my continent ive attacked again with even more tanks and some SAMs backing them up. Its gone much better than before, only negative is one vassal has developed SDI but im tearing into him with the tanks and moving up the continent. The thing thats killing me most is global warming. At the rate this is going ill be ruler of a vast worldwide desert by the time the war ends. Neither continent is in good shape, mine is about 50% desert, theirs is similar with added radiation :thumbsdown: The smaller third arctic continent with the 2 piddly civs noone has bothered with has even got some desert lol. Ill need to download a mod to deal with global warming next game.

BTW what's the best naval unit? I figured missile cruisers but sometimes his stealth destroyers kill them, i lost 5 missile cruisers to stealth destroyers at one point.
 
CU said:
I have only played Civ III. What makes IV so much better, or what made III so bad? I never see anyone say III was the best or good.
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I liked Civ III myself, I don't know why everyone hates on it so much. The biggest difference between III and IV though is corruption in III would absolutely cripple you if you tried to go big with your civilization. The next biggest thing is in Civ IV you specialize cities, you have production cities, beaker cities, wonder cities, gold cities, etc. In III there weren't any great people to propel specialization like that.

Maximilian said:
Anyone got any tips? Im having a bit of trouble with the UI overall, i cant tell what civs were wiped out (would like to know for curiositys sake), i dont know how espionage works im able to perform spy missions but my understanding of it ends there, i dont know what resources are available to me. I have a good idea because of what im able to build (tanks, nukes etc) but theres no screen showing what i have. Also corporations are a bit of a mystery to me.
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For resources on the bottom right above the mini-map of the world is a bunch of icons. I can't remember if it's the one to the left or right of the check mark icon, but one of those brings up a resource overlay. Click it and you'll see what resources are available to you. The other icon shows what luxuries are available to you.

As far as I know if you never met a civ you'll never be told who it was that was wiped out till end game when you can watch the replay clips.

Basically with spying you can see what a city has in it, try to sabotage other civs with your spies, steal tech, incite riots, etc. You have to fund spies to get anything quality wise in return.

Corps are awesome, but really come too late in the game. You really need to know what resources you have in-order to use them 🙂 Here this link explains it better then I can http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237717 but it works a lot like religions.

You might want to install the BUG mod, http://civ4bug.sourceforge.net/index.html it doesn't alter game play but adds a lot of nice feedback functions to the game as far as info goes.

Destroyers and subs are pretty good naval units. For global warming stop cutting down all the damn trees 😀
 
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Alpha Centauri (+-Alien Crossfire) is the best Civ game. I'd vote for Alpha Centauri as the best game of all time.

I certainly enjoyed Civ4 a lot, and recently re-upped it, and started checking out mods. It is certainly a mature platform.

Civ5, hard to say, it obviously didn't grab me as much as the previous versions. May try and give it another go once the next big patch is out.
 
Good stuff thanks for the tips guys, is there any reason a city of mine wants to join another empire??

Its a conquered city, 70% russian 30% ethiopian, im playing as russians and despite there being 0% dutch in this city they yearn to join the dutch empire... Why? The dutch are reduced to two cities, neither or which are nearby lol. What gives?
 
Maximilian said:
Good stuff thanks for the tips guys, is there any reason a city of mine wants to join another empire??

Its a conquered city, 70% russian 30% ethiopian, im playing as russians and despite there being 0% dutch in this city they yearn to join the dutch empire... Why? The dutch are reduced to two cities, neither or which are nearby lol. What gives?
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Religion? If so, try building a temple, church or whatever. If that doesn't work, cull the population a little by building settlers. 🙂
 
Gibsons said:
Religion? If so, try building a temple, church or whatever. If that doesn't work, cull the population a little by building settlers. 🙂
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They have different religions, i dunno maybe they just like the other empire for no reason :/ Theyre all dying anyways due to lack of food. In 2011 this is whats left of my once lush green continent 😱 Some are still happy although god knows why...

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