CISPA held up in Senate. New bill in works. Still no coverage.

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There is a very good reason they would do this. Gold just tanked, while the market is posting record numbers, and they know the economy is about to implode so they want to make their fixed bets without anyone knowing about it. So, what would you do if you were them?

Pass a bill censoring the internet, gut a bill so you don't have to report your trading that might implicate you of insider trading when you bet against the dollar before it collapses (amongst other things), import UN troops for crowd control and call for Martial Law when you announce that the dollar is in free fall.

Interesting indeed...

It's hilarious they can't agree on a simple budget but they reverse insider trading laws unanimously and quickly.

 

[werepossum]

This is why I'm baffled by complaints about congress not doing anything.

Just look at what they do do. And people want more of that?

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Shot down? If only that were true.

The STOCK Act passed when it was an election year. Now that those fucks are safe for a few years, they intentionally went back and gutted it, almost unanimously.

Want to know why terrorists kill civilians instead of politicians? Because killing politicians would actually be doing us a favor.

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You really don't know anything about Republicans, do you?

Maybe a quote I often post will help you:

"Politicians have to LOOK good to voters, and DO good for donors".

You haven't noticed what they SAY and what they DO don't match yet?

Could, say, the decades they have won elections by TALKING about the very popular cause of 'balancing the budget' and 'fiscal responsbility' while they skryocket debt help you?

Republicans couldn't get elected without many voters who vote for them falling for the sales pitch who are 'SHOCKED' when the actual governing doesn't match the pitch.

In defense of the Republicans, they are often blinded by the glare from the Democrats' halos.

 

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Oh wait.... Obama says he'll likely veto it..



LOL Right... I bet he will.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Interesting indeed...

It's hilarious they can't agree on a simple budget but they reverse insider trading laws unanimously and quickly.

If the budget doesn't pass by the deadline, expect to see a huge sell-off of the dollar the next day. They had to pass it quickly, they needed to set themselves up to profit from the fall.

 

[Oldgamer]

The problem is there is no policing what these big companies are doing with your very private information. I see that the Obama administration has said they may veto this bill though.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

The problem is there is no policing what these big companies are doing with your very private information. I see that the Obama administration has said they may veto this bill though.

Don't count on it. He may out of spite for gun control being shot down, but it is more likely he will obey his corporate banker masters and leave it be.

 

[airdata]

The problem is there is no policing what these big companies are doing with your very private information. I see that the Obama administration has said they may veto this bill though.

Yeah, I said LOL about the veto comment because he said the same thing about the NDAA which he signed on new years eve despite having previously stated he'd veto it.

The government is a sham... it's a shame alot of board members are too ignorant to see this. They're anti government because there's a black guy in office and it blinds them to the fact that obama is the same as bush.

 

[Juror No. 8]

The solution comes down to 'good government' - which is why the price is so high when our government is corrupted by money, making it an instrument of oppression.

There's no such thing as 'good government'. There never has been. Not unless you believe there's such a thing as a 'good monopoly'. You can go all the way back through history and you'll find that government has served only one consistent purpose - for one group of people to lord over and live at the expense of another group of people.

It's pure fantasy to believe you can create an institution designed to provide a legal monopoly on the use of aggressive violence against people and have it turn out "good".

 

[moonbogg]

Don't like it, but thats only because I don't profit from it. If it was my idea or my dad's idea, and I knew we were going to be rolling in billions, then I think i'd be able to live with myself if it caused others a little discomfort...and so would all of you.

 

[ivwshane]

Never. What COULD happen is that the same forces that are the problem might organize a phony 'revolution', like the tea party, to get even MORE power for themselves.

What we actually need is for people to get informed enough to learn how much propaganda they're fed is wrong - and not much chance of that.

Bing-fucking-O

 

[Juror No. 8]

Don't like it, but thats only because I don't profit from it. If it was my idea or my dad's idea, and I knew we were going to be rolling in billions, then I think i'd be able to live with myself if it caused others a little discomfort...and so would all of you.

So, because you're admittedly corrupt and immoral, that means everybody else is corrupt and immoral too?

Congratulations, that's probably the same rationalization the politicians and their corporate puppet masters employ when devise new ways tyrannize the masses.

 

[BoberFett]

The government is a sham... it's a shame alot of board members are too ignorant to see this. They're anti government because there's a black guy in office and it blinds them to the fact that obama is the same as bush.

Funny, I think almost the same thing about Democrats, except that they're pro-government and blind to the fact that Obama is the same as Bush.

 

[waggy]

Funny, I think almost the same thing about Democrats, except that they're pro-government and blind to the fact that Obama is the same as Bush.

this.

my personal opionion is party means jack shit. once in office? same ol' shit.

they gutted this so they could continue to steal. Depending on what is going on Obama may even veto it. if anything big in the news he can get this by without a squeak in the news.

 

[moonbogg]

So, because you're admittedly corrupt and immoral, that means everybody else is corrupt and immoral too?

Congratulations, that's probably the same rationalization the politicians and their corporate puppet masters employ when devise new ways tyrannize the masses.

Mhmm. If you were looking at billions you might rationalize it differently. But you aren't, so it doesn't matter what you say at this point. You will try to claim the moral high ground because at least thats some consolation while the people who actually matter get their billions.

 

[werepossum]

i agree. really, we could just make a flying drone for every person that constantly tracks and records you 24/7. if everyone is accounted for, then responsibility is always properly directed. and it would also mean we could eliminate statute of limitations laws- those are so annoying.

Too late, it's already here.

http://www.designnews.com/author.as...yout=blog]flying quadricopter camera platform

Always Innovating calls the MeCam a "self-video minicopter" in the video below. The camera can be operated by voice command, or it can be programmed to hover around you automatically.

Your government minder will be by soon to fit yours. Don't worry, they know where you are - always.

Failure to assimilate is grounds for termination, citizen.

 

[BoberFett]

Your government minder will be by soon to fit yours. Don't worry, they know where you are - always.

Failure to assimilate is grounds for termination, citizen.

You have ten seconds to comply

 

[werepossum]

You have ten seconds to comply

LOL

 

[SheHateMe]

So does this mean piracy is dead? lol

 

[wirednuts]

Big waste of money compared to a mandatory chip implant. Which really would be of enormous use in crime solving and prevention. And hugely infringe freedom.

hey now! its not wasting when its used for government defense pork barrel contracts! geez... how do you think this countries economy works?

 

[Jeff7]

Too late, it's already here.

http://www.designnews.com/author.as...yout=blog]flying quadricopter camera platform

Your government minder will be by soon to fit yours. Don't worry, they know where you are - always.

Failure to assimilate is grounds for termination, citizen.

Things will get especially interesting once people find that they can build a larger one that integrates a GPS receiver and a fairly capable vision system - and then strap a bomb to it.

Interesting indeed...

It's hilarious they can't agree on a simple budget but they reverse insider trading laws unanimously and quickly.

Well of course. The budget doesn't affect them. They don't need to care. They get paid even if all they do is bicker over trivial BS for months on end.
But, they're mostly greedy assholes, so serving that interest is something they can agree on very easily.

Just shows how truly despicable American politics has become. When are you guys going to start that second revolution?

We had a shooting of some people in Congress awhile back, which resulted in some injuries and deaths.
Afterward, there was a flurry of bills introduced to make it illegal to carry a weapon within X feet or miles of a legislator. One of them said it was so that they wouldn't be distracted, and could remain committed to serving the country. No, it was because you were suddenly scared, thinking "Oh god oh god oh god, they're getting seriously pissed off now, please don't kill me."

 

[werepossum]

Things will get especially interesting once people find that they can build a larger one that integrates a GPS receiver and a fairly capable vision system - and then strap a bomb to it.

SNIP

Quite true. That's a nasty bit of technology there.

No virgins though.

 

[moonbogg]

You have ten seconds to comply

That is the scariest robot i've ever seen. When I first watched that movie years ago, that thing got stuck in my psyche and never left.

 

[boxleitnerb]

Well, to their defense, we are at war and at war times personal rights and privileges are often revoked... I don't see a huge out cry from internet users to stop China from attacking US govt and private properties... I don't see anonymous hacking China and asking them to stop... US needs to defect itself, we don't want another Nortel, many are in the making I must warn you...
So yes, I am OK with govt having access to my private data and some companies misusing it in the name of this law as long as govt is trying to fight and protect us from intruders.

/ibtm

No, the US is not at war. There has been no formal declaration of war (against whom anyway?). The "war" against terrorism is not a war, it's an endless line of actions and reactions where the lines are so much blurred that it can be used to justify anything. And that is exactly what is happening.

Ben Franklin was and is right. It's a shame that over 200 years later, many people still haven't gotten it:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

 

[Matt1970]

You really don't know anything about Republicans, do you?

Maybe a quote I often post will help you:

"Politicians have to LOOK good to voters, and DO good for donors".

You haven't noticed what they SAY and what they DO don't match yet?

Could, say, the decades they have won elections by TALKING about the very popular cause of 'balancing the budget' and 'fiscal responsbility' while they skryocket debt help you?

Republicans couldn't get elected without many voters who vote for them falling for the sales pitch who are 'SHOCKED' when the actual governing doesn't match the pitch.

Good ole' Craig, still only seeing half the problem.

 

[Craig234]

There's no such thing as 'good government'. There never has been. Not unless you believe there's such a thing as a 'good monopoly'. You can go all the way back through history and you'll find that government has served only one consistent purpose - for one group of people to lord over and live at the expense of another group of people.

It's pure fantasy to believe you can create an institution designed to provide a legal monopoly on the use of aggressive violence against people and have it turn out "good".

Of course, you are completely wrong.

Good government provides roads, it provides clean and affordable drinking water, it provides currency, it provides police protection, it provides all kinds of very important scientific research, it achieved one of the greatest achievments of mankind with the man on the moon, it provides public education to a huge number of people, it provides the right for workers to have some rights for safety and wage negotiation, it provides a court system, it's absurd to even try to do justice to all the good things good government does.

We have more freedom, more prosperity, people live in peace in great numbers side by side because of good government.

It's a bit ironic that with all these benefits, it breeds false ideologues who then fail to appreciate the benefits of having good government who would happily destroy it.

The lessons of human history being filled with societies where nearly everyone is a powerless figures who has to serve a central power are lost on these people.

You did not have all these benefits under the King/Emperor/Shogun/Warlord/Tyrant/Pharaoh/Chief/King Pope/etc. in most of history.

And you won't have them under the robber barons either, just as we didn't have many of them in our robber baron era, with people didn't live long, median wage $10,000 a year.

It's precisely because these private interests are so powerful that they can threaten the public interest even to the point of corrupting our democracy - and you want to hand MORE to them, to completely remove the power of the people to have the organization needed to stand up to those interests, and just allow complete tyranny by powerful interests over the people.

Creating an institution with a 'monopoly on the use of violence' isn't perfect but it's a big improvement over the alternatives - it's precisely because that institution can prevent the ABUSE of the use of violence by gangs, thugs, rich people, or other groups who form to exploit people, instead serving 'the people', that it's a big advancement for society.

It gets abused - but try learning some world history to see what the real abuse without that democratic monopoly on violence looks like with mass killings for power and wealth.

These right-wing anti-governent movements are basically the enemy of civilization - anti democracy, anti public good, clueless fighters to bring back more tyranny.