circumcised? Your risk of hetrosexually transmitted HIV just went down by 70%

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imported_Reck

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Originally posted by: Noriaki
http://net.indra.com/~shredder/intact/anatomy/

(There are some pictures at that link that may be NSFW...but they are medical oriented not porn-oriented, I apologize if they are seen as inappropriate)

A few things:

One: There are many nerves in the foreskin. I would not say this is comparable to so called "female circumcision", but many pleasure nerves are lost in a circumcised male.

Two: The "skin" on the glans of an uncircumcised penis does callous or get rougher, in fact there is no skin on the glans. Uncircumcised penises grow a thin layer of keratin to protect them. Does this reduce sensitivity? Possibly...but without having two penises personally with which to compare I don't feel confident making that assessment.

Three: One of the foreskin's functions is to stimulate the female g-spot. Does this cause women to be more likely to orgasm? Hell if I know, but there it is.


On the other hand, this is a website, so what good are they really as a source of information? About as good as un-peer-reviewed "studies".


read the link you posted. the frenulum is often destroyed during circumcision and that's the part of the male anatomy analogous to the female clitoris. mgm is definitely comparable to fgm.

http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/

covers a lot of what is altered as well.

Yea these threads seem to go on forever for some reason...
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: CVSiN
this coming from countries populations that the women still have more hair under thier arms than I do..
ya im really gonna listen to them... well just agree that different cultures look at things differently...
Now you're just showing us how limited your view of the world really is. There's more to Europe than France... (or else you shave your underarms)

The point is simply that it is ridiculous to make any statement that comes close to "we cut off the ends of our penises because it's RIGHT and everyone else who doesn't do this to themselves is WRONG." I'm very sorry, but if you want to convince me that all male babies should be circumcised, you're going to have to put up a slightly more convincing argument than "because it looks good" or "because it's easier to keep clean" (yeah, you save 15 seconds in the shower, woohoo!).

Not true at all.. I've been all over Europe.. Including behind the old iron curtain..
and alot of them do not shave either...

now who is showing thier limited knowledge..
I traveled all over the World from 1987-1997 with the US Navy... been to over 50 countries...
how far have you been?
 

Noriaki

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Originally posted by: Reck
read the link you posted. the frenulum is often destroyed during circumcision and that's the part of the male anatomy analogous to the female clitoris. mgm is definitely comparable to fgm.

Yeah, that was worded poorly. I agree with you there.

What I meant to say was is that women are often unable to derive any sexual pleasure at all, men usually aren't quite that bad off. But still in either case important pleasure centres are being removed, so I shouldn't say they are not comparable.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Not true at all.. I've been all over Europe.. Including behind the old iron curtain..
and alot of them do not shave either...

now who is showing thier limited knowledge..
I traveled all over the World from 1987-1997 with the US Navy... been to over 50 countries...
how far have you been?
So now we're even... you know more about Europe than you do about circumcision, evidently. Let's get back to the core issue; no one has addressed the second part of my post.
 

DidlySquat

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Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: rbloedow

At least it gives those that wouldn't a opportunity to get it done themselves if they wish.

Under what situation would being circumsized be a bad thing?

See the post below yours.

If circumcized guys are desensitized, I can only imagine how ripped off women would feel with an uncircumcized guy. It would last 20 seconds.

Even as it is now, with "desensitized" guys, it's too sensitive for most.

My fiance is uncircumsized, and our average lovemaking session is an hour (or more if I'd like). Being more sensitive has nothing to do with "lasting time."

Sliced up d!cks are disgusting, my fiance is uncut and I think it looks perfect, the way it should... if we have sons someday, they will not be mutilated.


I'm sure you haven't even seen a circumsized penis in person. All your expeerience is with the ugly uncut 5" chinese guys. Circumsized looks much better at all times
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: DidlySquat
I'm sure you haven't even seen a circumsized penis in person. All your expeerience is with the ugly uncut 5" chinese guys. Circumsized looks much better at all times
And I'm not so sure I would put any stock whatsoever into your opinion (bolded because it's all about a preference, not fact as you seem to make it out to be). You are making blanket generalizations using a stereotype to insult an entire nation, and then you try to force upon everyone another absurd statement that tells us nothing except what you personally prefer (and that you're a very closed-minded person, incapable of dealing with others who prefer things differently than you do).
 

tami

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: notfred
Don't sleep with HIV infected people? Your risk of heterosexually transmitted HIV just went down 100%.
so make sure every partner is tested and then hope they don't cheat
and THEN always wear a condom.
that will get you closer to that 100%.


or, wait till you get married to have sex. that was a traditional way of living and it worked out well.
 

VoteQuimby

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: notfred
Don't sleep with HIV infected people? Your risk of heterosexually transmitted HIV just went down 100%.
so make sure every partner is tested and then hope they don't cheat
and THEN always wear a condom.
that will get you closer to that 100%.

Testing and condoms aren't really an option, in Africa. If they could keep their stuff in their pants.. that'd be an option.
there are no condoms in Africa?

shens.


There are condoms in Africa but they are all on broomsticks.
 

DidlySquat

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: DidlySquat
I'm sure you haven't even seen a circumsized penis in person. All your expeerience is with the ugly uncut 5" chinese guys. Circumsized looks much better at all times
And I'm not so sure I would put any stock whatsoever into your opinion (bolded because it's all about a preference, not fact as you seem to make it out to be). You are making blanket generalizations using a stereotype to insult an entire nation, and then you try to force upon everyone another absurd statement that tells us nothing except what you personally prefer (and that you're a very closed-minded person, incapable of dealing with others who prefer things differently than you do).


A uncut member has the head exposed only when aroused, which a circumcized is exposed all the time. It is logical to assume it looks better when aroused because evolution made it this way to increase the chances of mating by being more attractive to sex partners. Just ask any woman. Maybe you can say it's personal opinion, but it's just like saying that a it's personal opinion that a porche looks better then a corolla.
 

DidlySquat

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Originally posted by: infestedgh0st
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
please close this thread before it turns into a 40 page debate, there are about 10 others of that length.

that said, fvck mutilated cox. :p

you keep that nasty foreskin to yourself ill stay circumsized... girls say they like it better..


girls do like circumsized ones better.


QFT
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: DidlySquat
uncut + 5" = pathetic

circumcisd + aroused = stud

You watch a ton of porn, don't you? Your opinions appear to have been shaped by hours and days of masturbation to porn star dick.
 

91TTZ

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Wow, nothing offends guys more than someone who talks bad about his d!ck.

PS- My e-penis is 18"
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Not true at all.. I've been all over Europe.. Including behind the old iron curtain..
and alot of them do not shave either...

now who is showing thier limited knowledge..
I traveled all over the World from 1987-1997 with the US Navy... been to over 50 countries...
how far have you been?
So now we're even... you know more about Europe than you do about circumcision, evidently. Let's get back to the core issue; no one has addressed the second part of my post.

its a scientifically proven fact way before aids etc came along.. that Circed is more hygenic...
its not about looks its about health...
.. but it does look better.. LOL
 

DidlySquat

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Facts:

1. Most men who were circumcised at birth are happy to have been circumcised.
2. Most circumcised men decide to circumcise their sons.
3. Most uncut adult men want to be circumcized, but don't because of the procedure involved.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Not true at all.. I've been all over Europe.. Including behind the old iron curtain..
and alot of them do not shave either...

now who is showing thier limited knowledge..
I traveled all over the World from 1987-1997 with the US Navy... been to over 50 countries...
how far have you been?
So now we're even... you know more about Europe than you do about circumcision, evidently. Let's get back to the core issue; no one has addressed the second part of my post.

its a scientifically proven fact way before aids etc came along.. that Circed is more hygenic...
its not about looks its about health...
.. but it does look better.. LOL

Soap and water goes a long way towards cleansing ANY body part. You do shower, right? Women have more skin folds down there than any man, mutilated or not, and they wash just fine.

Read this article, written by Dr. Paul M. Fleiss: It dispells all of your late 19th century/early 20th century myths about the "advantages" of circumcision. Text If you want more, google it, or go to the bookstore.

You do realize that circumcision came back in this country as a "cure" for masturbation and that it was done to both men and women? Fortunately for the women, people came to their senses and stopped doing that, but for the men, the lies and idiocy continues.