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Cingular becomes ATT Monday

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It's not like your bills or the stores are going to reflect the change immediately. The transition will take a few months. Cingular won't go away until all the customers know what's going on.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
So does this mean I can now get signal from the cingular towers?

I have at&t wireless (old one)

There arent any old At&t towers left they have all been coverted to Cingular. So you are already using cingular towers to a point. What you have now in your phone is just a limited roaming database and old system Id's yours will work as long as they continue to grandfather you in.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
jdini76, AT&T spun off its wireless division into its own, independant company. Cingular purchased that entity a few years ago. Now AT&T has purchased Cingular's parent company, thus buying back its wireless company as well as another 30% of the market or so that it didn't have before

Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Does it have to do with the fact that verizon can put their wireless and telephone customers on one bill?

Huh? It has to do with the fact that with AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth they own all of Cingular.

Didn't Cingular buy out AT&T wirelss a couple years ago? I am fuzzy on the details.

Yeah.

Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

lol at the diagram... playoffs on your mind?
 
Cingular/ATT is one of those single-company-many-entities cannibalisms that is common in American corporatism. A parent company builds, sells, buys back, ad infinitum a daughter company as a means of making money and transferring assets (it also represents internal power plays within the corporation itself). Kind of like GE/NBC/RCA or CBS/Viacom/Westinghouse to name just a couple. The entity known today as Cingular was formed by ATT in late '70s as Advanced Mobile Phone Service, was divested as prt of the monopoly break-up, and has been through numerous iterations since then.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JS80
what a waste, they spent hundreds of millions of dollars branding Cingular and now they're just throwing it away. noobs.

The AT&T name has been around for over 100 years. Noob.

It still dosen't make sense. Even though AT&T is a household name, cingular did spend MILLIONS of dollars after the merger pushing the new brand and putting the AT&T wireless to the gutter. They should have just kept AT&T from the beginning and saved their money.

I'm sure SBC spent a lot of money on each of their name changes, but they still concoluded that AT&T is a more valuable brand name.

Yep. The local phone company that I had went from AT&T, to Woodbury Telephone, to SNET, to SBC, and now to at&t (now with small letters!)

During the whole time, they never bothered to take Woodbury Telephone off of the bill 🙂
 
Originally posted by: lobbyone
I had an AT&T cellphone, and they told me to get a "compatible" Cingular phone, don't tell me they're going to make me get another BS AT&T "compatible" phone

Cingular was sued over that I believe.... for degrading the AT&T network to move everyone over to Cingular phones.
 
This is all too weird for me. When I first set up my phone acct a couple years ago, I was with AT&T, then it became Cingular. Now, it's going back to AT&T, WTF?
 
I'm also in the wagon where "It used to be AT&T and then became Cingular...which is going back to AT&T?"
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

hahahaha
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Does it have to do with the fact that verizon can put their wireless and telephone customers on one bill?

Huh? It has to do with the fact that with AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth they own all of Cingular.

Didn't Cingular buy out AT&T wirelss a couple years ago? I am fuzzy on the details.

Yeah.

Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

wtfbbq?

what happened to the anti-monopoly lawsuit that broke AT&T up into little peices?!

it looks like the little pieces are coming back together again like the bad guy in Terminator2.

So which phone companies havent re-merged yet?
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
wasn't pricewaterhousecoopers going to be renamed Monday once?

When I worked for them (pricewaterhouse) and they started talking about merging, we figured it should be called poopers.
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Does it have to do with the fact that verizon can put their wireless and telephone customers on one bill?

Huh? It has to do with the fact that with AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth they own all of Cingular.

Didn't Cingular buy out AT&T wirelss a couple years ago? I am fuzzy on the details.

Yeah.

Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

wtfbbq?

what happened to the anti-monopoly lawsuit that broke AT&T up into little peices?!

it looks like the little pieces are coming back together again like the bad guy in Terminator2.

So which phone companies havent re-merged yet?

Deregulation happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_local_exchange_carrier
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Does it have to do with the fact that verizon can put their wireless and telephone customers on one bill?

Huh? It has to do with the fact that with AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth they own all of Cingular.

Didn't Cingular buy out AT&T wirelss a couple years ago? I am fuzzy on the details.

Yeah.

Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

wtfbbq?

what happened to the anti-monopoly lawsuit that broke AT&T up into little peices?!

it looks like the little pieces are coming back together again like the bad guy in Terminator2.

So which phone companies havent re-merged yet?

Deregulation happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_local_exchange_carrier

thx for the link, but i couldnt make any sesne of it 🙁
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdini76
Does it have to do with the fact that verizon can put their wireless and telephone customers on one bill?

Huh? It has to do with the fact that with AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth they own all of Cingular.

Didn't Cingular buy out AT&T wirelss a couple years ago? I am fuzzy on the details.

Yeah.

Cingular was a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.
AT&T had their own wireless company, AT&T Wireless, and they sold it to Cingular.
SBC bought AT&T and adopted the AT&T name (or at&t)
SBC (not AT&T) bought BellSouth, meaning they own Cingular entirely now.
Since SBC + BellSouth (+ PacBell + SNET + Ameritech) is now AT&T, they're changing the name of Cingular (+ AT&T Wireless) to the name of the company they bought a few years ago. 😉

Diagram to make it easier 😛

wtfbbq?

what happened to the anti-monopoly lawsuit that broke AT&T up into little peices?!

it looks like the little pieces are coming back together again like the bad guy in Terminator2.

So which phone companies havent re-merged yet?

Deregulation happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_local_exchange_carrier

thx for the link, but i couldnt make any sesne of it 🙁

AT&T/RBOCs don't have a monopoly anymore, because other companies can lease their lines and sell their services on them.
 
"AT&T/RBOCs don't have a monopoly anymore, because other companies can lease their lines and sell their services on them. "

dumb question:

Why would any company want to lease out their lines at a cheaper price and have it used against them?!
 
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