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Cindy Sheehan - Todays Hero
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umbrella39
Lifer
That is exactly what she is doing.
ShadesOfGrey
Golden Member
I'm going all over the country telling moms: "This country is not worth dying for."
or "I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have."
She is entitled to express her feelings but to suggest those rants weren't against America would be naive of you.
imported_Condor
Diamond Member
You a new lib! You got time to make the revival tent before its too late. You can be saved!!
umbrella39
Lifer
SOG, how many times does it have to be pointed out to you that she was referring to Iraq, not the United States? FFS, give it up already. It is not accidentally distorted either. It's a deliberate misquote, designed to stir anger and hatred against Sheehan. It's the famous Right Wing Echo Chamber. In her next breath she states that if the US were attacked, she would be out in the street with her rolling pin fighting for this country. It's all there, even in the link you provided. Next....
And not defending this morally repugnant system we have means America now, too, eh?
LOL You crack me up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
See, I don't think you are naive, just dishonest.
Ha ha ha, yep AMERICA is not worth dying for but if we were attacked by terrorists, I would out in the street fighting them off with a rolling pin! That sounds SOOOO antiAmerican!!! Now if that sentence did not follow the out of context quote, you might have a leg to stand on but as it stands and because it IS IN FACT the next thing she said, you, Coulter, Rush, and the rest will just have to keep trying a little harder. You are failing miserably at painting her as unAmerican!
Reading her quote as "America is not worth dying for" requires glasses that polarize all light to the right.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Cerb
Elite Member
Do the Saudis have any use for transvestite lumberjack barbers afraid of hair? If not, we should go to war against them.
In any case...it still gets ratings, and so it is still news. She went from an oddball peaceful protester to total nutcase. She is a very good tool for steering away agendas, and also to be projected as a symbol for anti-war people, which is kind of insulting.
As soon as a celebrity gets caught screwing around, we'll never hear about her again. Right now, though, she still seems to have momentum.
ShadesOfGrey
Golden Member
Nice attempt and spinning, but it's quite clear what she said. You can say that she meant something else but that's not what her words suggest. You seem to forget that context is more than just after a quote. If you were honest you'd look at what was before that part too and you'd see that she was not talking about Iraq until she offered the qualifier of being attacked. So no matter how you attempt to spin it - it's anti-american.
BTW - I have not accused her of being "un-American" so you can stop with the lies.
umbrella39
Lifer
Dittoheads and thier ilk make me feel warm and fuzzy all over. LMAO. Get a new prescription in your reading glasses if you read that she was talking about America not being worth dying for.
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ShadesOfGrey
Golden Member
I'm sure in your apologist troll mind you've convinced yourself that's what she ment but her actual words do not bear that out since her qualified was being attacked.
So basically what she is saying that unless we are attacked, this country is not worth dying for. I'm sure there are quite a few people who would take issue with that - even anti-this-war people. America isn't about being selfish, we're about hope and freedom. If we fail to act in situations where we are in a position to help - have we lost that hope and vision for freedom? Now that doesn't mean we have to go root out every dictator immediately or go on a Nation building quest - it means that when the situation is right and it's in our National interest to act - we must even if we weren't attacked. So yes, her comments are anti-American. America doesn't stand for isolationism(that's why Buchanon hasn't been elected).
Oh, and I've already told you, liar - I don't visit or read the Free Republic. Why don't you slither back down to the Democratic Underground so you can join the rest of the Kos Kidz.
Darkhawk28
Diamond Member
As I'm sure your family is with you.
IGBT
Lifer
Text
..her family's not happy with her media stunt and willing accomplices she has surrounded her self with..
In a letter sent to the Drudge Report by Cherie Quarterolo, Casey's aunt and godmother, the family states:
Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks, Cherie..
The Sheehan family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan family supports the troops, our country, and our president, silently, with prayer and respect.
Sincerely,
Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.
Cindy Sheehan's statements have been featured on left-wing websites such as Socialist Worker Online, where she attacks the media as well as Bush.
..her family's not happy with her media stunt and willing accomplices she has surrounded her self with..
In a letter sent to the Drudge Report by Cherie Quarterolo, Casey's aunt and godmother, the family states:
Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks, Cherie..
The Sheehan family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan family supports the troops, our country, and our president, silently, with prayer and respect.
Sincerely,
Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.
Cindy Sheehan's statements have been featured on left-wing websites such as Socialist Worker Online, where she attacks the media as well as Bush.
Darkhawk28
Diamond Member
So, Bush's statements have been featured on the KKK website, white supremicist website and Al Qaeda websites.
Oh and btw, Socialist activists went to Camp Casey and were told to take a hike.
umbrella39
Lifer
Old repost. :roll:
Statements made from a sister in law who admittedly had only seen Casey a few times over the years preceeding his death. Of course, if you were somehow related to Casey, I am sure you would have sent a letter like this, too. I am sure you would care if your Liberal relatives sent a letter to Druge saying that your message board posting was contradictory to their ideology!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: WHO CARES?
Big shock :shocked:
SarcasticDwarf
Diamond Member
Cindy Sheehan does not support the war at all. 2/3 of the nation disapproves of the handling of the war. Stop trying to get around the truth fir a change.
She's not a freaking patriot you fool. Have you heard some of the vile things she has said about this country?[/quote]
Entertain us with some of her anti American quotes.[/quote]
I'm going all over the country telling moms: "This country is not worth dying for."
or "I would never have let him go and try and defend this morally repugnant system we have."
She is entitled to express her feelings but to suggest those rants weren't against America would be naive of you.[/quote]
SOG, how many times does it have to be pointed out to you that she was referring to Iraq, not the United States? FFS, give it up already. It is not accidentally distorted either. It's a deliberate misquote, designed to stir anger and hatred against Sheehan. It's the famous Right Wing Echo Chamber. In her next breath she states that if the US were attacked, she would be out in the street with her rolling pin fighting for this country. It's all there, even in the link you provided. Next....
And not defending this morally repugnant system we have means America now, too, eh?
LOL You crack me up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
See, I don't think you are naive, just dishonest.
Ha ha ha, yep AMERICA is not worth dying for but if we were attacked by terrorists, I would out in the street fighting them off with a rolling pin! That sounds SOOOO antiAmerican!!! Now if that sentence did not follow the out of context quote, you might have a leg to stand on but as it stands and because it IS IN FACT the next thing she said, you, Coulter, Rush, and the rest will just have to keep trying a little harder. You are failing miserably at painting her as unAmerican!
Reading her quote as "America is not worth dying for" requires glasses that polarize all light to the right.
:roll: :roll: :roll:[/quote]
Hold on... can you prove she was speaking about Iraq and not America? If so I will be very pissed off because I can say with no question that Fox potrayed her as making that comment about America. Saying she did directly.
I may tend to agree with one side over another, but that is only because I believe they will serve the principles I agree with more... lying about that is a violation of those principles and very wrong.
Pls provide proof if you can
Interesting... seems there is disagreement. If your version is basically correct, I stand by my previous statement. If the other guy is correct, I'm very disappointed in several media sources.
That doesn't change the other comments I heard her say directly, which still convinces me of her abject idiocy, but despite that the truth is what must rule.
ShadesOfGrey
Golden Member
Read it for yourself
Pre-statement context is all about how America causes evil. Then her statement. THEN 4 sentences later Iraq not attacking us gets brought up.
Take your pick. Believe the leftist spin or let her full statement provide the context.
Keep in mind that later in her rant when she is talking about us using nukes in Iraq(we did?😕 ) that she used the words "That country" to describe Iraq.
umbrella39
Lifer
Here is the direct quote from her speech at SFSU in April:
"I?m going all over the country telling moms: ?This country is not worth dying for. If we?re attacked, we would all go out. We?d all take whatever we had. I?d take my rolling pin and I?d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq."
Had the part about beating our attackers (if we were invaded) were left out of her speech, I would think it would be much harder for me to think she was talking about any other country than the one she resides in. However, since she did include it and goes on to say we were NOT attacked by Iraq, it seems pretty clear she was referring to Iraq.
Why would someone say our great country was not worth dying for and in the next breath, say she would defend it by any means possible? Makes no sense. Fox, Rush, Anne, Sean, and others always leave the next sentence out and go as far as to replace the word "This" with "America". Pretty obvious who is putting the spin on her statements or they would include the entire quote and leave it up to their viewers/listeners to decide what she meant. The mere fact that they omit her next sentences and replace "This" with "America" should be a hint as to who is trying to deceive. The truth does not need to be edited or misquoted, what possible reason would they have to alter her direct quote other than they, too knew, exactly what she was referring to.
"I?m going all over the country telling moms: ?This country is not worth dying for. If we?re attacked, we would all go out. We?d all take whatever we had. I?d take my rolling pin and I?d beat the attackers over the head with it. But we were not attacked by Iraq."
Had the part about beating our attackers (if we were invaded) were left out of her speech, I would think it would be much harder for me to think she was talking about any other country than the one she resides in. However, since she did include it and goes on to say we were NOT attacked by Iraq, it seems pretty clear she was referring to Iraq.
Why would someone say our great country was not worth dying for and in the next breath, say she would defend it by any means possible? Makes no sense. Fox, Rush, Anne, Sean, and others always leave the next sentence out and go as far as to replace the word "This" with "America". Pretty obvious who is putting the spin on her statements or they would include the entire quote and leave it up to their viewers/listeners to decide what she meant. The mere fact that they omit her next sentences and replace "This" with "America" should be a hint as to who is trying to deceive. The truth does not need to be edited or misquoted, what possible reason would they have to alter her direct quote other than they, too knew, exactly what she was referring to.
ShadesOfGrey
Golden Member
You seem to want to ignore everything before the statement which provides the context for "this" to mean "America".
You also seem to want to ignore that when talking about Iraq later in her rant she uses the words- "That country".
Not only those facts, but your logic of it not making sense for her to defend it after saying it's not worth dying for is flawed. She is stating that it isn't worth dying for unless we are attacked(which is noted by the next sentence which starts with "If we're attacked". You'd have noticed this if you'd allow yourself to use the whole context of her statements instead of trying to change the context by ignoring everything before it.
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