CIGARETTE COMPANIES MUST DIE!!!!!!!

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Yo Ma Ma

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Have you every smoked? If you have and have quit once already, you know it isn't easy. In fact it's possibly more difficult the 2nd/next time, and much easier to get addicted than the firt time you smoked. If you've never smoked or have completely quit, just do yourself a favor and do NOT start it now. Not only is it addictive but a crutch. I used to crank out code by staying up all night with coffee and cigarettes, after I quit smoking I couldn't hardly stand to program any more, because my brain became so dependant on that combination.

Try drinking more water, and get outside and exercise, get some fresh air in you and that should help your urge. Good luck :)
 

Wedesdo

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i got my grandpa to lung cancer... and am about to lose my uncle.

DON'T DO IT! SAVE YOURSELF!

you'll appreciate this when you get older.
 

Feisters

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<< CIGARETTE COMPANIES MUST DIE!!!!!!! >>

So, it's their fault that you have an urge to smoke? Sure. If you weren't exposed to the constant barrage of advertising, it never would have occurred to you. You should sue them for planting those thoughts into your head.
 

chess9

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Ulfwald:

My wife lost her sister exactly the same way. 42 years old and dead 6 months after finding out. Left two kids. I cannot quantify the disgust my wife has for the cigarette companies. Her sister was her best friend. But smokers must share part of the blame.

Andy:

To start smoking in college suggests you have other problems you are trying to mask. Talk to a counselor or your minister, priest, or rabbi. Smoke not.
 

smartt

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Seems to be the trend these days to blame our choices on other entities. Smoking - Cigarette Companies, Violence - Entertainment Industries, Over Extending Credit Cards - Anandtech forums... :D
 

stonythug

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Hey the cigarette companies are a big lobby for keeping possible competition illegal(marijuana) so I will hate them forever for that. Also, although my generation(early 20s) wasn't a victim to their lies, many people who came earlier believed them when they said that smoking would never cause any harm and wasn't addictive at all. These people believed the lies and started smoking and now a lot of them are dying because of it. The tobacco companies are heartless moneygrubbing assholes who would do or kill anything to make a dollar, that's just the way it is. I think the older generations can legitimately blame them for helping them get started because when they began smoking they were honestly led to believe that they weren't harmful and completely not addictive. It was too late that they learned the truth. Now I completely agree that my generation knows the truth and anyone who is dumb enough to get started smoking can blame no one but themselves. I've tried quite a few drugs, but tobacco is one that I'll stay away from forever, it's just not worth it. If you really want to know how smokers feel, ask them. 90% of the people who smoke will most likely tell you that they would quit if they could(as opposed to the 100% of the people who smoke weed and love it). Pick a better, more enjoyable drug if you've decided to destroy your body anyways. Atleast with some drugs it will be worth it.
 

focusyn

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i started smoking when i was 13. dang i regret it, BIG TIME. even tho it's been over 3 years since my last cig and i'm in good shape, i still regret wasting all the money into something so pointless. so save urself the time and money but jus not doing it in the first place cuz no good'll come out of it.
 

Feisters

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Damn chess9! Your sister-in-law was only 42?! Oh man. I'm so sorry. I just turned 40, and I smoke 2 packs a day! Started when I was 15. I'm probably a ticking bomb. My doctor says I'm in good health, but of course he admonishes me to quit smoking. I am on blood pressure medication, which my doc also says I probably wouldn't need if I quit. It's amazing how stupid people can be when presented with the facts (myself included). It's been said that nicotine is more addictive than heroine. I don't know if that's true or just a cop out. But I do know that I like smoking and have not even really seriously considered quitting. Considered it, yes. Seriously, no. Maybe it's time I should.
 

chess9

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Feisters:

Everyone is different, but the odds are good that if you don't die of cancer, then your cardiovascular system will slowly fail. Emphysema and heart disease are the likely culprits. My view is that if something gives you a little pleasure and you accept the consequences of a shortened life, that's your choice. The real problem is the cigarette companies lied to the American people for a very long time. Older Americans have paid a very heavy price for the tactics of the tobacco industry.

On the other hand, the first time you smoke you cough. This is your body telling you not to do it again. Some people simply ignore their bodies. Most of them die early.

Someone above appears to be advocating the use of marijuana on the grounds it gives more pleasure. Any injury to the brain after age 3 is PERMANENT. Marijuana injures the brain and is at least as toxic as cigarettes. (I admit that occasional recreational use of marijuana is not as harmful as chronic cigarette smoking. But why destroy God's gift to you with drugs? Seems to be an act of self-loathing.)

I really wish you young people would take up an athletic activity rather than engage in harmful personal behavior. Maybe if you got enough sex you wouldn't have the time or energy to smoke. :p :p :)
 

Ultima200

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Like everything else, smoking isn't TOO bad in moderation. If u are not yet addicted, just smoke once and a whioe but dont inhale. For some reason I am not addicted, but then again I smke probably like 3 cigaretees MAX per month. I like cigars :)




<< Pick a better, more enjoyable drug if you've decided to destroy your body anyways. Atleast with some drugs it will be worth it. >>



I totally agree. What does smoking a cigarrette do that is positive?? NOTHING.
 

vi edit

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Find an ashtray.

Lick.
Repeat.

Now decide if you really want to start.
 

Feisters

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chess9, you're exactly right. Tobacco use can cause many more afflictions than just lung cancer. And you are correct in your assessment that tobacco companies essentially foisted their products on us. Remember, 50 or more years ago, some doctors actually endorsed tobacco use! True. But the FDA started to officially warn of the dangers of tobacco in 1964. That was 36 years ago. IMHO, this is ample time (damn near two generations) for folks to get a &quot;clue&quot;. However, tobacco use is a &quot;learned&quot; habit. If your family or friends use it, chances are, you also will.
 

SackOfAllTrades

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Some of my friends nag me about not smoking, and I told them that an addiction to complaining is more hazardous to their health.

I hate the fact that I smoke though, and I hope that is a step closer for me to quitting, I already notice a reduction of how much I smoke a day.

To the non smokers out there I envy you. The people that are curious, I urge you do not smoke, but I am not your father, so you have the right to do whatever you want that is legal. Just don't say no one warned you.
 

kyutip

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Don't smoke, please don't.
If it's not for you then it's for other people who can't stand the smoke.
I tried smoke when I was teenager, glad I did it the wrong way.
I take a puff, suck it down, feel like crap and cough like crazy.
That's it, from then on I don't like to smoke, can't do it.
kinda like a first impression things on animal, if it's bad the first time then it's gonna be bad forever.
Does anyone remember a Calvin and Hobbes strip that has something about smoke ?
where Calvin ask his dad if he could smoke and his dad told him to go right ahead ??
Calvin took a whiff and cough (just like me) and said parents are weird, they let you do things that you won't like or something like that.
Don't smoke !
 

Muerto

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OH MY GOD!!! :Q WTF are you thinking?! I have a friend who started smoking a little while ago and he absolutely reeks right now. The smell is almost unbearable.

If your life is so stressful that you want to smoke I think you should try and work your problems out rather than just become dependent on poison that makes you feel good temporarily.
 

fragarific

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My roommate's friend just started to smoke! For the first time when he's about 22! He got past all of the peer pressure and now what is he starting for? Just to fill his time in between classes!??! Because he can?!?! If my roommate doesn't talk to him I will.
 

Helpless

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My only advice is that if you start, don;t ever try to quit...I quit for 3 years, but took the habit up again...now smoke twice as much as I did prior to quitting :)
 

pamchenko

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ayayzel or whatever his/her name pretty much hit the nail on the head for me...I try sugarless gum but when the rush or extreme stress comes, only the sweet nicotine can relieve me :p admittedly, I think I do look cooler when i do it...I've been a nerd my whole life, I guess this is my way of over compensating. And there is a bond amongst smokahs too...like a little comradry I enjoy.
avoid starting if u have enough self-esteem to...I know I don't.
 

BenSkywalker

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Smoker now in my third decade with the habit(80's, 90's and now 00's, no I'm not old enough quite yet to have been smoking that long;)). Forget all the talk about health issues, those are old and have been played to death, the economic one is the nasty short term problem-

Let's break it down for an average smoker, say a pack and a half to two packs a day. The average price of a pack is what, $3.50 nationwide with about $30.00 per carton being the norm(varies greatly depending on where you live)?

So you smoke a carton to a carton and a half a week, $30-$50 a week. Over the course of a month that is $120-$200(figuring for the max and a five/three paycheck month).

So, in terms of computer hardware you could buy a new CPU, upgrade your RAM, and buy a new video card every three months for the cost of smoking. If you saved for six months, you could likely build up an entire system.

Of course you wouldn't want to jsut buy computer stuff. Say you go three months and purchase the CPU/RAM/Vid card and then had the next three months. How about a nice stereo system with Dolby Digital surround sound? Six months later you can go out and buy yourself a nice ~31&quot; flat TV and new DVD player or pick up a very nice 21&quot; monitor.

That is all just from the cost of smoking, nothing else included. Look it over and then think of how much you purchase over the course of a decade, or how much you could invest over the course of a decade. If I had simply dropped all the money I have spent on smokes into MS stock from the time I started I would be a multi-millionaire(yes, I figured it out one day).

Forget talking about long term health problems which may very well not exist by the time you are old enough to be suffering with them, think about the cold hard cash that is honestly going up in smoke.
 

SuperTool

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I will not be smoking ever. Certainly not cigarettes. I tolerate smokers, when they are downwind from me. I just think the whole thing is stupid.
 

StageLeft

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While we're on the economics of it I just did a quick calculation.

Over 40 years, based on $1000 spent each year on cigarettes (I was conservative; many people spend more than this of course), and an invested interest rate of 12% (quite attainable long term), if you had of invested this money instead of smoking after 40 years instead of being sick you will be healthy and have a net gain of about $860,000

Yup, thats almost a million bucks. So pick:

option 1: after 40 years you are sick
option 2: after 40 years you are not sick and you have almost a million bucks saved up