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Christians Victims Of Rising Hostility From Government/Secular Groups

A new report
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by the Family Research Council and the Liberty Institute claims that there's been a rising pattern of hostility toward Christians in America over the past decade.
The 140-page "Survey of Religious Hostility in America," prepared by the Liberty Institute and the Family Research Council, highlighted more than 600 examples illustrating what it characterized as religious animosity shown by judges, government bureaucrats, schools and secular groups. From ObamaCare mandates that force religious entities to pay for contraception, to children being punished for uttering prayers in school, the report's findings shocked even those who commissioned it.
"It's way beyond anything we had imagined. It's so much more prolific than it's ever been before."​
- Kelly Shackelford, president of the Liberty Institute

“It’s a conflict of world views," Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council, told FoxNews.com. "These groups want people to check their faith at the door of the public square.”
Among the examples listed in the survey:

  • Matthew Reynolds, valedictorian for HLV Junior-Senior High School in Victor, Iowa, was told he had to give a 'secular' speech after he wished to attribute his success to his faith in Jesus Christ during his graduation speech.
  • A cross was removed from a veterans' memorial in San Diego, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit held that the memorial was unconstitutional.
  • .Dr. Frank Turek, a Cisco employee, was fired for expressing his views on traditional marriage in his book, even though he never voiced his religious opinions at work.
  • Samantha Schulz, 8, was barred from singing "Kum Ba Yah" at a Boys and Girls Club in Port Charlotte, Fla., because the song included the words "Oh, Lord."
  • Catherina Lorena Cenzon-DeCarlo, a nurse at Manhattan's Mount Sinai Hospital, was forced to participate in a late-term abortion against her religious convictions, and was threatened with job termination and loss of license.
The goal of the report is to raise awareness of these incidents to promote the appointment of judges "who are sensitive to the Constitution," said Kelly Shackelford, president of the Plano, Texas-based Liberty Institute. The report was presented in Tampa just ahead of next week's Republican National Convention.
According to Shackelford, the hostility can lead to violence, as in the case of the Aug.15 shooting at the Family Research Council headquarters, in which a gunman allegedly said he disagreed with the group's beliefs before shooting an employee in the arm. He also cited the Aug. 5 shooting deaths of six people at a Sikh temple near Milwaukee.
"It's way beyond anything we had imagined," Shackelford told FoxNews.com."It's so much more prolific than it's ever been before."
One critic said the report is guilty of blurring the line between attacking religion and upholding the Constitution. A.J. Johnson, development director of American Atheists, Inc., said no one condones hate crimes such as the FRC shooting. But many other examples cited are simply cases in which advocates called for the separation of church and state," Johnson said.
"The Family Research Council distorts court cases upholding the First Amendment as examples of "religious hostility," she said. "In reality, they are imposing their beliefs onto others and claiming to be victims of religious persecution when they do not get unique Christian privilege."
But Perkins said the secular nation that groups like Johnson's seek was never envisioned by the Founding Fathers, and will not come to be.
"That's not the future of our country," Perkins said.



Christians have been facing increasing hostility, judges and other government workers have been attacking Christianity.

Why is there so much hatred towards Christianity but nothing about any other religions?

This hatred must stop and the government needs to be held responsible for this

Do you agree that there is more hatred of Christians and the government must stop there persecution?
 
As Christians run this country, holding the vast majority of public offices and judgeships, it seems like maybe they should stop being so mean to each other.
 

"The Family Research Council distorts court cases upholding the First Amendment as examples of "religious hostility," she said. "In reality, they are imposing their beliefs onto others and claiming to be victims of religious persecution when they do not get unique Christian privilege."

so what is your point?
 
Obviously if they are trying to force there religion on people that's wrong. But I am talking about persecution from the government like the Valedictorian who had to give a secular speech

I personally don't really care what imaginary creatures you thank but it obviously offends other people so tough luck. There are plenty of private colleges for christians.
 
Imagined Christian persecution is imagined. This white, male, Roman Catholic does not need or fear my white, male, Christian rights eroding or feel this feigned, contrived hatred invented to push fucked up agendas... Victim not found... The FRC and others near and dear to this thread need to get down off the cross and put some ointment on your sore buttz.
 
I think it's more to do with the PC and litigious as fuck society we live in. Everyone is afraid to do anything for fear of getting hit by a lawsuit because someone's feelings were hurt or they had to hear something they may not believe in.
 
Obviously if they are trying to force there religion on people that's wrong. But I am talking about persecution from the government like the Valedictorian who had to give a secular speech

The first amendment hasn't been honored in public schools for some time. I feel this is wrong but I don't see people getting upset when kids aren't allowed to thank the Dark Prince for their success either. I see the article as a play on victim mentality, using the same fear of insignificance the religion itself uses to hook people.

Thwarted evangelism != hostility

Marginalizing the beliefs and symbols of a religion in the public sphere is not the same as marginalizing the followers of said religion.
 
I think it's more to do with the PC and litigious as fuck society we live in. Everyone is afraid to do anything for fear of getting hit by a lawsuit because someone's feelings were hurt or they had to hear something they may not believe in.

Yeah this is true as well. A lot of times no one is offended but the fear that someone might be is enough. There are a lot of out of work lawyers in this country that are desperate to make a name for themselves.
 
Obviously if they are trying to force there religion on people that's wrong. But I am talking about persecution from the government like the Valedictorian who had to give a secular speech

How is that persecution? He gave a speech during a school-sponsored event most likely held on school grounds, speaking to a crowd of people that includes some who may not share his religious view. As well as being a captive audience. He could just have easily silently uttered a prayer of thanks.

Also, a Christian based lobbyist group and a Christian-based advocacy/legal defense group co-sponsor a study (bias much?) the results of which they find shocking?

Color me surprised.

Christians have been facing increasing hostility, judges and other government workers have been attacking Christianity. Some of the "attacks" the study reports on are several years old. They should sponsor a study by an independent group each year if they want to find that there truly is an increase.

Why is there so much hatred towards Christianity but nothing about any other religions? I wouldn't say it's hatred so much as it is mistrust. Nothing about other religions? Says the little Islamophobe who weekly creates threads about Muslims and their "evil" ways.

This hatred must stop and the government needs to be held responsible for this The government needs to be held responsible? How about everyone dialing back both the mistrust of religion in general and the "I'm Christian and I'll do what I want" attitude?

Do you agree that there is more hatred of Christians and the government must stop there persecution? No I don't agree that there's more hatred of Christians and I definitely don't think the government needs to get involved.
 

Christians have been facing increasing hostility, judges and other government workers have been attacking Christianity.

Why is there so much hatred towards Christianity but nothing about any other religions?


Well, let's see...

Matthew Reynolds, valedictorian for HLV Junior-Senior High School in Victor, Iowa, was told he had to give a 'secular' speech after he wished to attribute his success to his faith in Jesus Christ during his graduation speech.

Can you give any instances where a Muslim valedictorian praises Allah in his speech? A Buddhist valedictorian praising Buddha in his speech (although that would be contrary to Buddhism)? A Hindu valedictorian praising Brahma/Shiva/etc. in his speech?

A cross was removed from a veterans' memorial in San Diego, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit held that the memorial was unconstitutional.

Are there Muslim/Buddhist/Jewish/Hindu/etc holy symbols displayed prominently on government property? If so, they should be removed too. So please find a Star of David or star/crescent that's prominently displayed on government land and I will support it's removal.

Dr. Frank Turek, a Cisco employee, was fired for expressing his views on traditional marriage in his book, even though he never voiced his religious opinions at work.

Although that is bad, is that any different than a gay person being outed and then fired from his job (which appears to happen more often based on news reportings)?

Samantha Schulz, 8, was barred from singing "Kum Ba Yah" at a Boys and Girls Club in Port Charlotte, Fla., because the song included the words "Oh, Lord."

Sounds bad too. But that's a private institution. Aren't you one of those in favor of private institutions being able to do what they want?

Catherina Lorena Cenzon-DeCarlo, a nurse at Manhattan's Mount Sinai Hospital, was forced to participate in a late-term abortion against her religious convictions, and was threatened with job termination and loss of license.

She won her lawsuit. What else do you want?
 
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It's not Christians being persecuted, it's the public at large growing tired of supporting fairytales.

So the public is more likely to pursue separation of church and state and private institutions less likely to tolerate
Religious babble.

They have always had those rights it's just more socially acceptable for them to tell the religious to take a hike.
 
It's not Christians being persecuted, it's the public at large growing tired of supporting fairytales.

So the public is more likely to pursue separation of church and state and private institutions less likely to tolerate
Religious babble.

They have always had those rights it's just more socially acceptable for them to tell the religious to take a hike.

Guess it will be more peaceful around here, huh, with them gone.

Think so?
 
Guess it will be more peaceful around here, huh, with them gone.

Think so?

Gone?

I think it's better private institutions and government are no longer giving storytellers a platform they were not required to give in the first place.

Your free to worship how you see fit, and I am free to tell you to keep it to yourself.
 
YACCAT- yet another corrupted christains attacked thread, this schtick is getting old at this point. Should find some new material to flamebait with.
 
Gone?

I think it's better private institutions and government are no longer giving storytellers a platform they were not required to give in the first place.

Your free to worship how you see fit, and I am free to tell you to keep it to yourself.

Ah, ok..

Just wondering, really.
 
How is that persecution? He gave a speech during a school-sponsored event most likely held on school grounds, speaking to a crowd of people that includes some who may not share his religious view. As well as being a captive audience. He could just have easily silently uttered a prayer of thanks.

Also, a Christian based lobbyist group and a Christian-based advocacy/legal defense group co-sponsor a study (bias much?) the results of which they find shocking?

Color me surprised.

Christians have been facing increasing hostility, judges and other government workers have been attacking Christianity. Some of the "attacks" the study reports on are several years old. They should sponsor a study by an independent group each year if they want to find that there truly is an increase.

Why is there so much hatred towards Christianity but nothing about any other religions? I wouldn't say it's hatred so much as it is mistrust. Nothing about other religions? Says the little Islamophobe who weekly creates threads about Muslims and their "evil" ways.

This hatred must stop and the government needs to be held responsible for this The government needs to be held responsible? How about everyone dialing back both the mistrust of religion in general and the "I'm Christian and I'll do what I want" attitude?

Do you agree that there is more hatred of Christians and the government must stop there persecution? No I don't agree that there's more hatred of Christians and I definitely don't think the government needs to get involved.

There is massive attacks on Christianity that is organized by left wing organizations. It is hatred, pure hatred against Christians but nothing about any other religion. When Brevik murdered all those people the media immediately reported he was a Christian Fundamentalist even though he made fun of people that believe in God. But if it was a Muslim they wouldn't mention the religion.

Bureaucrats and other scum in the government are attacking Christianity like the obamacare mandate.

The government is the one that is starting and funding these attacks so they have to stop
 
There is massive attacks on Christianity that is organized by left wing organizations. It is hatred, pure hatred against Christians but nothing about any other religion. When Brevik murdered all those people the media immediately reported he was a Christian Fundamentalist even though he made fun of people that believe in God. But if it was a Muslim they wouldn't mention the religion.

Bureaucrats and other scum in the government are attacking Christianity like the obamacare mandate.

The government is the one that is starting and funding these attacks so they have to stop

So you don't agree with left wing orgs lobbying to ensure separation of church and state is adhered to.

I think your just pissed that the free pass christianity has historically gotten in this country is coming to an end.

Nope time to play by the same rules as every other fairytale propogators.
 
There is massive attacks on Christianity that is organized by left wing organizations. It is hatred, pure hatred against Christians but nothing about any other religion. When Brevik murdered all those people the media immediately reported he was a Christian Fundamentalist even though he made fun of people that believe in God. But if it was a Muslim they wouldn't mention the religion.

Where have you been for the last 30 years?

BTW, do you support France's ban on Muslims wearing head scarves in schools?
 
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