"Christians" strike again

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Some people have ethics and some dont. It is funny that when someone in this country stands up for their beliefs and their ethics that the immoral majority doesnt like it.

What's even more funny is that you have so-called "christians" who preach tolerance yet don't adhere to it. Jesus preached tolerance, did he not? These "christians" get me confused, I thought Jesus said "turn the other cheek", not "talk from the other side of your mouth".

Secondly, they're punishing the child because they don't agree with her parents, what the hell is that?

Most of the flack christians get, they bring on themselves.

This thread will most likely devolve into what some of us will say is an 'attack on christians'. Because this is a private shool, they can do what they want.

This is different then most religion threads. Most religion threads deal with religion and gov't. We the 'immoral majority' couldn't care less what religion you or anyone else believes in. We just think that to maintain the separation of church and state and subsequently the freedom of religion, the gov't should remain neutral. Apparently because of that we are catering atheism. Talk about generalizations.

 

[Viper GTS]

What I find most interesting about this is that the liberal crowd thinks the christian crowd preaches tolerance.

Jesus preached tolerance, did he not?

Did he? You tell me.

Forgiveness? Yes.
Love (even towards sinners)? Yes.
Condoning immorality? Absolutely not.

And again as has already been posted it's a private school they can set whatever admission policies they want. But don't give me any of this "hypocritical christians not tolerating" crap unless you know WTF you're talking about.

Viper GTS

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
What I find most interesting about this is that the liberal crowd thinks the christian crowd preaches tolerance.

Jesus preached tolerance, did he not?

Did he? You tell me.

Forgiveness? Yes.
Love (even towards sinners)? Yes.
Condoning immorality? Absolutely not.

And again as has already been posted it's a private school they can set whatever admission policies they want. But don't give me any of this "hypocritical christians not tolerating" crap unless you know WTF you're talking about.

Viper GTS

didn't Jesus say something about hate the sin, love the sinner?
btw yes its a private school and they can do what they want.
but we have the right to comment and express our beliefs about what they do.
IMO those people don't have a clue. And those who make their opinions known as to what they think of their actions are probably helping them more than any sermon they will get in that church.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
What I find most interesting about this is that the liberal crowd thinks the christian crowd preaches tolerance.

Jesus preached tolerance, did he not?

Did he? You tell me.

Forgiveness? Yes.
Love (even towards sinners)? Yes.
Condoning immorality? Absolutely not.

And again as has already been posted it's a private school they can set whatever admission policies they want. But don't give me any of this "hypocritical christians not tolerating" crap unless you know WTF you're talking about.

Viper GTS

Oh I think almost every member here in P&N knows all about being a hypocrite🙂

 

[Mean MrMustard]

I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

Bingo!

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

Well you're quite certainly wrong, as even an elementary knowledge of Christianity would tell you otherwise.

And they're not punishing the child, it's not like they took him out & gave him 50 lashes with the biblical whip. There's no punishment involved here at all, they just chose not to associate with something that they consider to be sin.

Viper GTS

 

[JacobJ]

While I disagree with the actions of the 'christian' people that did this you should not make the mistake of lumping all christians together. Doing so is like lumping all gays together. Saying christians don't care about tolerance is like saying gays don't care about morals. Both 'gays' and 'christians' are diverse groups with many distinct ideologies, value systems, and beliefs.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

Well you're quite certainly wrong, as even an elementary knowledge of Christianity would tell you otherwise.

And they're not punishing the child, it's not like they took him out & gave him 50 lashes with the biblical whip. There's no punishment involved here at all, they just chose not to associate with something that they consider to be sin.

Viper GTS

When did Jesus punish people for not following him?

My 14 years of 'elementary' Christian education has failed to recall any time, though it's been a few years. Enlighten me.

 

[ITJunkie]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's a Private School, as long as it doesn't receive any government money they can admist who ever they want for what ever reason they want. The moment they do receive any goverment assistance though then the whole thing changes or should change IMO.

Have to agree on this one. It's a private school. It's a ridiculous and narrow-minded decision by the school but it's up to them to decide their admission standards.

I disagree, in fact this is a case of walking the walk. It's their belief that homosexuality is a major sin and they are just adhering to their beliefs. As a private institution based on religious beliefs I can fully understand why they would do this.

They do have a legal right to do this. But in my eyes, as a Christian, I don't think it's right morally. WWJD? Turn the girl away? No. I don't think He turned anyone away, much less an innocent child. Homosexuality is as sinful as pre-marital heterosexuality. And all of us are sinners.

They like to make homosexuality a "hardcore" sin because it's one sin most don't have to worry about comitting.

^ This is a very good point ^

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

I hardly think that denying the child the "opportunity" to be schoold by a group of ignorant douche-bags can be called punishment.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

I hardly think that denying the child the "opportunity" to be schoold by a group of ignorant douche-bags can be called punishment.

Just because the administrators may be "douche-bags" doesn't mean it's not a good school. Maybe it's the best in the area.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

Well you're quite certainly wrong, as even an elementary knowledge of Christianity would tell you otherwise.

And they're not punishing the child, it's not like they took him out & gave him 50 lashes with the biblical whip. There's no punishment involved here at all, they just chose not to associate with something that they consider to be sin.

Viper GTS

When did Jesus punish people for not following him?

My 14 years of 'elementary' Christian education has failed to recall any time, though it's been a few years. Enlighten me.

Sodom & Gomorrah?

The specific example I was thinking of though was in 1 Samuel 15.

http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?book_id=9&chapter=15&version=31

Viper GTS

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

Well you're quite certainly wrong, as even an elementary knowledge of Christianity would tell you otherwise.

And they're not punishing the child, it's not like they took him out & gave him 50 lashes with the biblical whip. There's no punishment involved here at all, they just chose not to associate with something that they consider to be sin.

Viper GTS

When did Jesus punish people for not following him?

My 14 years of 'elementary' Christian education has failed to recall any time, though it's been a few years. Enlighten me.

Sodom & Gomorrah?

The specific example I was thinking of though was in 1 Samuel 15.

http://bible.gospelcom.net/passage/?book_id=9&chapter=15&version=31

Viper GTS

Okay the whole trinity, three in one thing can be confusing. Jesus = New testament not Old Testament.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: PELarson
Okay the whole trinity, three in one thing can be confusing. Jesus = New testament not Old Testament.

True, I will give you that.

I didn't want to take this into too much of a theological debate but you are correct on OT law vs NT.

Is there a standing order now to punish sinners? Of course not. Were there times that God used people as a method of punishment? Yes.

Viper GTS

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

I hardly think that denying the child the "opportunity" to be schooled by a group of ignorant douche-bags can be called punishment.

Just because the administrators may be "douche-bags" doesn't mean it's not a good school. Maybe it's the best in the area.

Regardless, they have policies (I assume published) and the child did not meet them. I'm rather sure this is certainly not a unique case in regards to a private school refusing admission based on the child parents' practices, beliefs, economics, behavior, etc.

 

[techs]

They like to make homosexuality a "hardcore" sin because it's one sin most don't have to worry about comitting.

Yeah, right. Like being a conservative christian makes you any less apt to be a homosexual. Just ask a priest.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

I hardly think that denying the child the "opportunity" to be schoold by a group of ignorant douche-bags can be called punishment.

In their eyes it is, or else they wouldn't care. Not very christian-like is it?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: techs
They like to make homosexuality a "hardcore" sin because it's one sin most don't have to worry about comitting.

Yeah, right. Like being a conservative christian makes you any less apt to be a homosexual. Just ask a priest.

Compare Christian homosexuality to Christian premarital sex, Christian divorce rates, Christian abortions, Christian infidelity, etc and you'll soon see that the above statement is extremely profound.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ELP
I'm quite certain he didn't call for punishing those that didn't follow him.

Besides, they're punishing the child who did nothing wrong.

I hardly think that denying the child the "opportunity" to be schoold by a group of ignorant douche-bags can be called punishment.

In their eyes it is, or else they wouldn't care. Not very christian-like is it?

I certainly don't think you'll meet much resistance when attempting to "argue" that there are lots of hypocrits in the world today.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
the funny thing about all these hardcore Christians is their complete intolerance of those who do not follow their beliefs, which is the EXACT opposite message of what Jesus Christ preached.

You are wrong. What Jesus said is "You are forgiven go and sin no more.

Jesus never said. "OK, do whatever you want" You may agree or disagree, but Jesus never said "go and sin on more".

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
the funny thing about all these hardcore Christians is their complete intolerance of those who do not follow their beliefs, which is the EXACT opposite message of what Jesus Christ preached.

You are wrong. What Jesus said is "You are forgiven go and sin no more.

Jesus never said. "OK, do whatever you want" You may agree or disagree, but Jesus never said "go and sin on more".

:thumbsup:
I think they should let the girl attend the school. Your family background should never prevent you from being able to attend a Christian school, even if one of your parents is living a sinful life. In fact, it's a good witnessing oppourtunity for the school, I don't see why they can't let her attend.

 

[EXman]

How can these people call themselves Christians when they have no tolerance for anyone that isn't as they interpret what a moral person should be?

We tolerate you isn't that enough?

I think you need to do some investigating on Christians. Tolerance is overrated. If Christians tolerated everyone for 2000 years there wouldn't be more than a few if any.

That's not a fundy view although they don't tolerate at all.

Bigotry? No more than yours toward them. 😉

 

[Moonbeam]

Probably we should change the law so that children with Christian parents can't go to public school.

 

[Moonbeam]

We should also tear up the streets around such Cristian schools and turn off water power and heat, house sex offenders in the area and keep the police away. They are a private concern so let them fend for themselves, TOTALLY.