Christianity vs MAGA Christianity

[ch33zw1z]

The best part of christians is they can engage in “no true scotsman” all day long about each other, its like who sells it the best are the “true” christians

 

[HomerJS]

Trump's spiritual advisor tell her audience Trump is God

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ncjiy0/trumps_spiritual_advisor_paula_white_to_say_no_to

 

[Brovane]

Trump's spiritual advisor tell her audience Trump is God

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ncjiy0/trumps_spiritual_advisor_paula_white_to_say_no_to

There are conservative Christians that view females proper place is to submit to their husbands. A woman preaching to them would be considered sacrilege.

 

[brycejones]

Trump's spiritual advisor tell her audience Trump is God

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ncjiy0/trumps_spiritual_advisor_paula_white_to_say_no_to

Prosperity gospel preacher - Tool of the devil

AKA the money changers Jesus warned against. So many modern evangelicals have been seduced by the message of Satan and they don't even know it.

 

[trenchfoot]

If she really believes the bullcrap she's been dishing up, of which I really don't think she does, then Melania must be the resurrected embodiment of Mother Mary's spirit, Trump Jr. must be Jesus and the rest of his spawn from Hell must be Cain, Able and Seth. Trump's parents must then be Adam and Eve while Trump's MAGAts must be The Epic Holy Church of Trump.

I mean, just how ridiculous must things get before people like that charlatan spiritual adviser of Trump's and Nancy Reagan's crystal ball massager get hauled out on the proverbial rail for the fraudulent miscreants that they are?

 

[fskimospy]

Prosperity gospel preacher - Tool of the devil

AKA the money changers Jesus warned against. So many modern evangelicals have been seduced by the message of Satan and they don't even know it.

Again I think people who don’t spend a lot of time around evangelicals may not understand them.

I’m not saying this about you specifically but any time someone points out that evangelicals don’t follow the tenets of Christianity misses the point. They don’t care about the theology, it’s cultural Christianity, not theological Christianity.

 

[nickqt]

Again I think people who don’t spend a lot of time around evangelicals may not understand them.

I’m not saying this about you specifically but any time someone points out that evangelicals don’t follow the tenets of Christianity misses the point. They don’t care about the theology, it’s cultural Christianity, not theological Christianity.

They quote Acts and Saul of Tarsus, a Christian persecutor.

They leave out what Christ is actually quoted as saying, because Christ made clear that it's what you do, not what you say, that matters.

Ultimately, and I've said this multiple times, modern US Conservatives worship Mammon dressed up like Jesus.

 

[pete6032]

Again I think people who don’t spend a lot of time around evangelicals may not understand them.

I’m not saying this about you specifically but any time someone points out that evangelicals don’t follow the tenets of Christianity misses the point. They don’t care about the theology, it’s cultural Christianity, not theological Christianity.

For a lot of those ultra MAGA Christians, Christianity is a means to an end. The end being justifying bigotry, hate, racism, etc.

 

[hal2kilo]

For a lot of those ultra MAGA Christians, Christianity is a means to an end. The end being justifying bigotry, hate, racism, etc.

Pro slavers used the bible to justify what they were doing so nothing has really changed a far as using the Gosple for things other than what it says to do for your fellow man.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Pro slavers used the bible to justify what they were doing so nothing has really changed a far as using the Gosple for things other than what it says to do for your fellow man.

It’s a little known fact that when Jesus went to the money lenders and started flipping tables, it was because Jesus had found out that the lenders had shorted Jesus on his cut from referrals.

 

[outriding]

late to the party ..

both groups believe in things that dont exist

 

[brycejones]

Again I think people who don’t spend a lot of time around evangelicals may not understand them.

I’m not saying this about you specifically but any time someone points out that evangelicals don’t follow the tenets of Christianity misses the point. They don’t care about the theology, it’s cultural Christianity, not theological Christianity.

I agree

 

[trenchfoot]

An article written by David Brooks that I thought was a good read that's also germane to this thread.

What happens when people operate without any coherent theory of how religion should relate to politics?

First, people treat electoral politics as if it were a form of spiritual warfare. A battlefield mentality prevails between the forces of Jesus and the forces of Satan. Fear replaces the traditional Christian virtue, hope: We’re under attack, and we have to destroy our enemies! That’s the easiest way to mobilize people.

Second, the process of moral formation is perverted. Instead of discipling people in the Christian virtues of faith, hope and charity, people get discipled in the political passions — enmity, conquest and the urge to dominate.

Third, people develop an addiction to rapture. You’ve probably heard the sort of Christian worship music that preceded and punctuated Sunday’s ceremony. Traditional hymns from centuries gone by covered a range of experiences, but modern worship music tends to hit the same emotional chord over and over again: rapture and praise. Its job is to drive your arms heavenward or to knock you to your knees. It can be a delicious and transforming experience.
The problem is that politics is prosaic. Deliberation and negotiation work best in a mood of moderation and equipoise. If you want to practice politics in the mood best suited for the altar call, you’re going to practice politics in a way that sends prudence out the window.

Fourth, a destructive kind of syncretism prevails. Syncretism is an ancient religious problem. It occurs when believers try to merge different kinds of faith. These days, it’s faith in Jesus and the faith in MAGA all cocktailed together. Syncretism politicizes and degrades faith and totalizes politics.

Fifth, it kicks up a lot of hypocrisy. It’s nice to hear Carlson say he practices a religion of love, harmony and peace, but is that actually the way he lives his life?

Finally, it causes people to underestimate the power of sin. The civil rights movement had a well-crafted theory of the relationship between religion and politics. The movement’s theology taught its members that they were themselves sinful and that they had to put restraints on their political action in order to guard against the sins of hatred, self-righteousness and the love of power. Without any such theory, MAGA imposes no restraints, and sin roams free.

The critics of Christian nationalism sometimes argue that it is a political movement using the language and symbols of religion in order to win elections. But the events of the past week have proved that this is a genuinely religious movement and Charlie Kirk was a genuinely religious man. The problem is that unrestrained faith and unrestrained partisanship are an incredibly combustible mixture. I am one of those who fear that the powerful emotions kicked up by the martyrdom of Kirk will lead many Republicans to conclude that their opponents are irredeemably evil and that anything that causes them suffering is permissible. It’s possible for faithful people to wander a long way from the cross.

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[cytg111]

Trump's spiritual advisor tell her audience Trump is God

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ncjiy0/trumps_spiritual_advisor_paula_white_to_say_no_to

I think that particular horseman might be a woman.

 

[IronWing]

The Babylon Bee has jumped the shark from being a humorous Christian site to a lame MAGA site. It's sad as they used to be entertaining and now they just rant.

 

[HomerJS]

MAGA Christian.

Mike Johnson lying to the public and hiding his Grindr profile

 

[sandorski]

Criticizing "Christianity" will soon be "Terrorism".

 

[soulcougher73]

The Babylon Bee has jumped the shark from being a humorous Christian site to a lame MAGA site. It's sad as they used to be entertaining and now they just rant.

I always felt they were a 2nd rate wannabe Onion. I never found anything they posted to be funny personally. Was very basic low level satire targeted to their audience.

 

[hal2kilo]

An article written by David Brooks that I thought was a good read that's also germane to this thread.

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He's a bit late finding his morale compass. They won't take you back.

 

[Indus]

An article written by David Brooks that I thought was a good read that's also germane to this thread.

Walls of texts nowdays are like ancient greece tablets.

No one will read them.. or not enough of them.

 

[trenchfoot]

Walls of texts nowdays are like ancient greece tablets.

No one will read them.. or not enough of them.

Noted. For brevity's sake, next time I contribute articles like that I'll extract pertinent quotations without affecting content and context and post those up instead.

 

[brycejones]

Criticizing "Christianity" will soon be "Terrorism".

Criticizing the state of Israel already is…

 

[Indus]

Noted. For brevity's sake, next time I contribute articles like that I'll extract pertinent quotations without affecting content and context and post those up instead.

No I mean who the hell is going to actually read a long ass essay written by David Brooks vs just listening to Trump for 10 seconds.

He's a master at getting his point across in 10 seconds or less and people or enough of them just outsource thinking to dear leader!

That vs the written heiroglyphs or ancient greek tablets of reasoning and scientific facts.

I mean just this very post itself even though it's only 3 paragraphs long flies over the heads of greeny, taj etc.

 

[trenchfoot]

There are conservative Christians that view females proper place is to submit to their husbands. A woman preaching to them would be considered sacrilege.

In the MAGAsphere, whenever and wherever they can insidiously blend politics and religion into party policy, anything goes, it's all good. I mean, they know a lot of religious folks are easy pickings for unquestioningly giving up their blind faith to whomever declares that Christianity is under constant threat and having being sold that bullcrap, Project 2025 gets stuffed down their throats with ease. These are the same folks who have incredulously drank from that mind fucking goblet of poison that deceived them into believing that Donald Trump, of all people, is their worldly savior of whom God has chosen to speak through. It all brings new meaning to how insanity is defined. And it's only getting more insane the more the party of Trump gets hammered at the polls.

 

[HomerJS]

This all goes back to something he stated his first term that he could kill someone on 5th Ave and his people wouldn't care.

Yet all of a sudden it is a crime because some of us choose not to give a damn about

Charlie Kirk
Trump's near miss