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Religion was created to explain things that people without access to science couldn't explain using their limited knowledge. That's all.

And I'm not trying to be mean-spirited, but that really is how the first religions got started. Everything that has followed since is just an extrapolation of that.
As you wish but with regard to the Abrahamic religions I think one can see three things. Moses brought the law, rules to live by that any person whose self respect is in tack manifests naturally. The law was a reflection of how a person who is whole responds to life naturally and within the limits of human evolution at that time. That religion went south with the assumption that all one needs to be enlightened is to obey the law. This closed the door to the possibility of salvation to any who had sinned and believed such nonsense. That is why in the next phase of revelation Jesus brought forgiveness for sin. It is not the law but the spirit of the law that matters and that the concept that being a worthless sinner can be transcended by ego death, surrender to God in the real faith that one can be forgiven, that one can forgive oneself. Naturally that quickly became a way to skirt the real self-transformation required, the experience of grace, the route around the ego, where one can pretend one has been forgiven and keep right on sinning to be forgiven again and again. Islam reconciles the law of punishment and forgiveness with deep natural common sense. The perpetual sinner faces punishment for transgressions right up to the point where the request for forgiveness is expressed. Then that person is bound by contract never to sin again. In this way both the base animal in us that seeks revenge and the saint who dispenses compassion can be satisfied. So I do not accept your 'that's all'.

You are, in my opinion, just trying to explain things without the benefit of an ancient science of awakening you have not been educated in. I can't do anything if what I say makes you mad but from my perspective it's actually quite funny.

Once, long ago, a psychologist I had sought counseling from told me I was being defensive, to which I replied, "I am not". Imagine the surprise and chagrin of the idiot who fell face first into that classic. God knows how many other such whoppers I've committed and never later realized.
 
I don't understand what you mean by 'If you'

I don't see myself as that other bird. I see myself as also being that so called other bird, that I am the same. I can't help it that the seeing of that fact makes me a bit different, or that expressing what I see ruffles blinder birds feathers. I have lived with the fact that I feel worthless a long time and have had many experiences of that fact, the fact that is what I really feel. I believe that over time I have become less resistant to the fact that all my hate for the other is really my own hate for myself. And the less I can condemn others, the less I can justify that for myself. The world is a mirror of the self.

I think thats fantastic for you. And sure I can make "The world is a mirror of the self" work, but its still just for you, these personal revelations are not a one size fits all.
The key part is this
"I can't help it that the seeing of that fact makes me a bit different, or that expressing what I see ruffles blinder birds feathers."
And thats the superiority complex. You assume that your "thing" is better than mine or anyone elses? That I am the blind one?
Besides all this I am a firm believer in equality, we as a species will stagnate until we all agree that all people are created equal. Equal. Your faith is not better or superior to mine or anyone elses. I guess thats why I get this "jehovahs witnesses" vibe of you.

("if you" was a mobile foobar.)
 
I think thats fantastic for you. And sure I can make "The world is a mirror of the self" work, but its still just for you, these personal revelations are not a one size fits all.
The key part is this
"I can't help it that the seeing of that fact makes me a bit different, or that expressing what I see ruffles blinder birds feathers."
And thats the superiority complex. You assume that your "thing" is better than mine or anyone elses? That I am the blind one?
Besides all this I am a firm believer in equality, we as a species will stagnate until we all agree that all people are created equal. Equal. Your faith is not better or superior to mine or anyone elses. I guess thats why I get this "jehovahs witnesses" vibe of you.

("if you" was a mobile foobar.)
I don't know what a mobile foobar is either. And regarding the rest, as I tried to suggest, with the world is a mirror of self, when you say that I have a superiority complex, the implication was that it actually might be that you see such in me because you have an inferiority complex, that you feel a competition for praise or self respect that I don't feel. That is why I tried to suggest that I have a deep and personal familiarity with that need which by being aware of lessens it's grip on my ego. Now of course, I have committed the sin of saying I am more modest than you. 🙂
 
I don't know what a mobile foobar is either. And regarding the rest, as I tried to suggest, with the world is a mirror of self, when you say that I have a superiority complex, the implication was that it actually might be that you see such in me because you have an inferiority complex, that you feel a competition for praise or self respect that I don't feel. That is why I tried to suggest that I have a deep and personal familiarity with that need which by being aware of lessens it's grip on my ego. Now of course, I have committed the sin of saying I am more modest than you. 🙂

Oki then but why would I only see it in you, jehovahs witnesses and kin? Cause for some reason I have an inferiority complex vs people of faith? Cause I grew up in a non religious househould and was never exposed to any true form of religion in my forming years? Thats some deep shit man 😉.
Think about it, if you calculate that I have an inferiority complex and it turns out I really havent, what does that tell you about yourself, mirror and all.
 
Unfortunately the message that the modern church sends is one that Jesus would never approve of.


Someone show Trump this .. He will be switching careers in a heartbeat.

That shit makes me laugh then it makes me cry then it makes me think. What if these preachers believe what they preach? How fcked up would that be? The ramifications be massive. I hope they are all sociopaths I cant deal with the alternative.
 
Oki then but why would I only see it in you, jehovahs witnesses and kin? Cause for some reason I have an inferiority complex vs people of faith? Cause I grew up in a non religious househould and was never exposed to any true form of religion in my forming years? Thats some deep shit man 😉.
Think about it, if you calculate that I have an inferiority complex and it turns out I really havent, what does that tell you about yourself, mirror and all.
My intention is not to force you to feel you have an inferiority complex but to offer you explanations for behaviors that can imply that you do. What I know is irrelevant. The self knowledge you can acquire is what matters to me. I see my job as offering you the best insights that I can while remaining indifferent to whether you can use them. My personal life is not affected by what you see or don't see. The Nothing took all of my dreams of being a somebody away. I wish you all the best as best I can.
 
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