Christ Debunked

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

My thoughts exactly.

Your exact thoughts are a bowl with a vague phrase magically means something because your an idiot with an agenda?

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: esun

Originally posted by: Crono
If I engraved "Zeppelin the ignoramus" on a bowl, do you think that would make it true if archaeologists discovered it 2,000 years later?

What if I scrawled a big story on some parchment and called it "Bible"? Then would it be true?

"The God described in this book exists because he is responsible for writing this book."

"Belief in the Bible is futile. See the first two chapters? Ignore the primary theme of the book, and pretend it's all about origins."

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

My thoughts exactly.

Your exact thoughts are a bowl with a vague phrase magically means something because your <------OMG an idiot with an agenda?

Your grammar error made it completely impossible for me to understand your message. Therefore, I will be just as stupid and pretend to not know what you meant.

 

[TehMac]

Alexandria was a place of haven for the rabbi and people of Jewish faith, it had been for nearly 4 centuries. It's no wonder Christ is called a magician by the Skeptical rabbi.
Either that or magician was simply the only way of looking at him.

If anything, this only would prove that Christ really was an authority on healing using spiritual prowess because onlookers who were not versed in God's healing could only describe the miracles as "magic."


So if anything, the OP should be "Christ's power confirmed."

 

[Eli]

That's right folks, you heard it from MSNBC first,

Jesus Christ was simply the David Blaine of his time.

:Q

😀

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

except for the fact that if a pot maker was going to engrave something on a special pot, he would have a scholar come do it for him most likely. at any rate, if he were so inclined to etch on his pottery, he would most likely have a better understanding of written form than the unwashed masses. do you go down to the local DES office looking for someone to proofread your manuscript? or do you hire a person that specializes in editing large works?

But how do you know the people that were trusted with how and what to write actually should have been trusted? Just because someone who can't read or write trusted that they would put the correct thing, doesn't mean it was the correct thing. Then when you also consider the people buying it could just as well have been unable to read or write, who exactly is verifying it? I would liken it to people who get tattoos of say Chinese symbols.

Also consider that a lot of the educated people were the ones furthering the beliefs in these oddball stories (Mythology, many of the Christian stories that make up the Bible) and oftentimes had their own agenda, its not like there isn't reason to wonder about things that were written. Take for instance the debate about Napolean and his height. It's common belief here to think he was short, but there's actual reasons to believe otherwise.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: JS80
*yawn*

you gotta debunk faith first

You can't debunk faith..

It's... faith. 😕

 

[Rudee]

I'd like to own that cup. It would be great for storing pencils and stuff.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
"Christ" means savior so it could have been talking about anyone. Or maybe someone was just trying to make money off of Christ's name and reputation. No... no one would do something like that! Sell trinkets with references to famous or popular people?

There's nothing here to debunk Christ.

Technically, "Christ" is the English translation of the Greek "???st??" (transliterated as "Khristós"), which means "the anointed". It does not mean "savior", that would be "S?t??", which is transliterated as "Soter".

ZV

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
A magician eh?? So I guess it was something like this?

I was waiting for that reference...

 

[timosyy]

buried for inaccurate.

-.-

 

[rise]

weak "evidence" at best.

 

[syzygy]

don't forget there were gnostic christians too.

there were many people who appropriated the idea of christ to push their own niche beliefs. councils were convened to hash out an orthodox beleif system. they
weeded out the fantastic from the original teachings. this bowl appears to be from a fringe element.

 

[destrekor]

OMG, the Christ is a LIE!

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

If Chris Angel started healing AIDS patients then you have a point.

The Bible wasn't written until well after Jesus's death, leaving plenty of time for stories to be made up and embellished.

"Did you hear about that time Chris Angel flew to save a falling baby?" Something like that is all it takes.

Heck, have you ever seen some of the morons who actually believe the stuff in the Weekly World News?

 

[Reckoner]

OP = Fail

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Leros

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

If Chris Angel started healing AIDS patients then you have a point.

The Bible wasn't written until well after Jesus's death, leaving plenty of time for stories to be made up and embellished.

"Did you hear about that time Chris Angel flew to save a falling baby?" Something like that is all it takes.

Heck, have you ever seen some of the morons who actually believe the stuff in the Weekly World News?

Completely agree. Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's fact. There has been absolutely NO evidence that anything in that book is fact, other than the fact that there's a guy named Christ that people really liked, possibly enough to embellish stories.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: destrekor
Completely agree. Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's fact. There has been absolutely NO evidence that anything in that book is fact, other than the fact that there's a guy named Christ that people really liked, possibly enough to embellish stories.

There are entire very long books written about the historical accuracy of the Bible. Of course, if you weren't just blindly bashing, you would have bothered to look into that sort of thing before making such an ignorant statement. It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to be willfully ignorant because it suits your agenda.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: destrekor
Completely agree. Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's fact. There has been absolutely NO evidence that anything in that book is fact, other than the fact that there's a guy named Christ that people really liked, possibly enough to embellish stories.

There are entire very long books written about the historical accuracy of the Bible. Of course, if you weren't just blindly bashing, you would have bothered to look into that sort of thing before making such an ignorant statement. It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to be willfully ignorant because it suits your agenda.

I never said there wasn't any truth to the book... just greatly embellished. You know... stories exaggerated.
If you weren't blindly following, you might be able to accept that.
No proof of miracles, no proof a world flood (granted, I can accept there may have been a flood somewhere it was considered 'the world' to these people).

I could write a bible today that greatly exaggerate certain factual events to become much more than they really were.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Technically, "Christ" is the English translation of the Greek "???st??" (transliterated as "Khristós"), which means "the anointed". It does not mean "savior", that would be "S?t??", which is transliterated as "Soter".

ZV

jew god the anointed?

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

And there is evidence that there was a "great flood" - from a comet hitting the Indian Ocean.

Think about how that would play out.
Ancient times. Big fireball in the sky. Distant rumbling. Then suddenly the ocean rises and wipes out vast swaths of coastline. Survivors would tell horrific tales. Merchants would embellish the stories as they traveled all over the region. Before long, the fish he caught was thiiiiiiis big, and the flood lasted 40 days and 40 nights.
Of course, New Orleans was flooded longer than that, and all it sustained as a hurricane, so it might not be too far-fetched that flooding could last a very long time.
But enough water to cover the tallest mountains? Right. How big was that fish, again?

Originally posted by: destrekor
I could write a bible today that greatly exaggerate certain factual events to become much more than they really were.

They still won't believe the part about your 12" penis though, so don't even try slipping that little doozy in there.
😉

 

[Pocatello]

oops.

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
A magician eh?? So I guess it was something like this?

:laugh:

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: destrekor
Completely agree. Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's fact. There has been absolutely NO evidence that anything in that book is fact, other than the fact that there's a guy named Christ that people really liked, possibly enough to embellish stories.

There are entire very long books written about the historical accuracy of the Bible. Of course, if you weren't just blindly bashing, you would have bothered to look into that sort of thing before making such an ignorant statement. It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to be willfully ignorant because it suits your agenda.

I never said there wasn't any truth to the book... just greatly embellished. You know... stories exaggerated.
If you weren't blindly following, you might be able to accept that.
No proof of miracles, no proof a world flood (granted, I can accept there may have been a flood somewhere it was considered 'the world' to these people).

I could write a bible today that greatly exaggerate certain factual events to become much more than they really were.

But, the Bible is clearly 100% historically accurate.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Two things:

Isn't it funny how human are. Imagine the foundation for a religion that, what 1/4 of the world's population follows, could be the equivalent to a modern day David Blaine or Chris Angel? It really isn't that far fetched either, especially considering all the other crap people believed at the time.

Based on the general idiocy of the modern world when it comes to grammar and spelling, imagine how bad the people in the past must have been, considering far fewer of them were educated at all. It'd be interesting to see what people thousands of years from now would try to glean by reading stuff posted on the internet.

You should start writing the book of Darkswordsman17.