Choose your kids school, be labelled a racist

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I'm not too worried. Anybody that tries to implement this will be booted out in a heartbeat, the parents just want the best education for their children and public school just isn't it. Race has nothing to do with it.
 

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your a total idiot.....proof and links or crawl back ubder your rock you came from..

Even your source doesn`t say shit about
Obama forc[ing] other kids to go back to thier [sic] nearest school in D.C. I know he tried...

No different than Obama's Kiddos... Didn't Obama force other kids to go back to thier nearest school in D.C. I know he tried...

your a total idiot.....proof and links or crawl back ubder your rock you came from..

Even your source doesn`t say shit about
Obama forc[ing] other kids to go back to thier [sic] nearest school in D.C. I know he tried...

From Examiner article
These families will probably be similarly surprised to find that Obama—whom most have seen as their champion if not potential savior—also opposes the program. In the final presidential debate, he explained that he opposes “spending public money for private school vouchers” and wants to focus on “improving our public schools, not throwing our hands up and walking away from them."

But D.C. parents might note that President-elect Obama has “walked away” from the D.C. public school system, at least when it comes to his own daughters. In deciding to send his children to the prestigious private school, Sidwell Friends, he follows in the footsteps of President Bill Clinton and wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton. The Clintons also opposed expanding school choice for D.C. residence while exercising choice for their daughter, Chelsea.

No one begrudges the Obamas their right to give their daughters the best education possible. Yet, don’t the rest of Washington, D.C. families deserve at least some of the same control over their children’s education that the Obama's enjoy?



It looks like Obama is against the Charter school concept; yet he does not want to send his girls to the DC public schools.

I can not blame him - but by doing so, shows that the what he believes is best for the rest of the country is not what he wants for his family.
 

Slew Foot

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Around here the school full of minorities are the good ones in expensive neighborhoods. Then again, when the population is 75&#37; asian, their not really a minority.
 

Jschmuck2

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From Examiner article




It looks like Obama is against the Charter school concept; yet he does not want to send his girls to the DC public schools.

I can not blame him - but by doing so, shows that the what he believes is best for the rest of the country is not what he wants for his family.

So - wait - you couldn't possibly see why the President of the United States' children might be a special exception here?
 

StageLeft

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So - wait - you couldn't possibly see why the President of the United States' children might be a special exception here?
An answer in a question: Do you think if he wasn't president his kids would be going to a public school and not a private? Were they before?
 

Hacp

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Maybe obama's kids should hang with the gangsters in DC schools? Otherwise, RASIZM!
 

sandorski

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That is a variable, not an answer.

Not really. It is far easier to Secure a Private School that likely already has a degree of Security built in. You're talking about the POTUS here, not the local Dog Catcher. He is a Target for all kinds of potential shenanigans and that includes his Children.
 

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Huh. So white parents dont want to send their kids to schools that are filled with gang bangers, criminals and thugs so the "Community Leaders" step forward to proclaim the obvious. It must be racism!! Oh my! Oh no. Family structure, socio-economic conditions and the lack of quality education wouldnt have anything at all to do with it.

Its simple racism. Of course.

I like the part at the bottom myself. Researchers dont know if demographics plays a part in the decision to go charter. Well of course it does. Parents dont want their children going to school with a bunch of worthless fuckwit gang bangers. RACE has less to do with it than CLASS.

It just so happens that race is a good indication of class it seems. But, as so often happens, rather than address the underlying causes the "Community Leaders" throw out the race card. Hey, its easiest that way.....

Interesting article. Your interpretation of it is another matter. I don't see anywhere in that article that "community leaders" or anyone else are accusing parents of racism for sending their kids to a certain school. Can you please point that out to me?

What the article actually does say, is that certain people (researchers) are concerned that there is a pattern of de facto segregation emerging. In other words, they don't want racial segregation to occur regardless of the reason. That is very different from accusing a parent of racism. You say that the parental decisions are classed based rather than race based, and I agree, but I don't see anything in that article suggesting that the researchers in question don't also agree. The closest the article comes is saying the researchers don't know whether "demographics" - which could mean race, class or both - are playing a role. Someone is playing the "race card" here, but it isn't the people discussed in the article.

- wolf
 

Hacp

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Not really. It is far easier to Secure a Private School that likely already has a degree of Security built in. You're talking about the POTUS here, not the local Dog Catcher. He is a Target for all kinds of potential shenanigans and that includes his Children.

I wonder where all Obama's friends send their children? Probably not to any old Chicago inner city school. If you want quality, you need to pay.
 

DesiPower

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You want to keep you kids away from the future leaders of the country? fine, have it your way
 

daishi5

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Not really. It is far easier to Secure a Private School that likely already has a degree of Security built in. You're talking about the POTUS here, not the local Dog Catcher. He is a Target for all kinds of potential shenanigans and that includes his Children.

You responded to a hypothetical question, if he was not president, with reasoning that the security requirements of him being president were the major reason. So, the question again is, if he was not the president, do you think he would send his kids to the DC public school system (assuming he lived in DC.)
 

MovingTarget

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The only color that truly matters in the case of public vs. charter schools is green. In my state, we are only now discussing implementation of charter schools because there is $ available from the federal level - not because they serve an educational niche. If the public schools in our nation truly had the resources they need, then charter schools would be a non-issue, imho.
 

Robor

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I wonder where all Obama's friends send their children? Probably not to any old Chicago inner city school. If you want quality, you need to pay.

Your point? People who can afford to send their kids to a better school do so. Those that can't get have public schools available.
 

Robor

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You responded to a hypothetical question, if he was not president, with reasoning that the security requirements of him being president were the major reason. So, the question again is, if he was not the president, do you think he would send his kids to the DC public school system (assuming he lived in DC.)

See my reply just above this.
 

sandorski

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You responded to a hypothetical question, if he was not president, with reasoning that the security requirements of him being president were the major reason. So, the question again is, if he was not the president, do you think he would send his kids to the DC public school system (assuming he lived in DC.)

I don't know. He'd probably still be in Chicago.
 

mect

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Your point? People who can afford to send their kids to a better school do so. Those that can't get have public schools available.

So why should only the rich have a choice? Why not give as many people as possible a choice when it comes to education? Why not make the public schools have to compete for students?
 

Darwin333

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So - wait - you couldn't possibly see why the President of the United States' children might be a special exception here?

Do you think that it would be any different if he wasn't the President yet he was still financially successful? Not to mention, being that he is the President I am fairly certain that if he wanted his kids to go to school there he could easily make it happen.

No one in their right mind is going to purposely ensure their child gets a subpar education simply to do what others perceive to be the "right thing".
 

Hacp

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Your point? People who can afford to send their kids to a better school do so. Those that can't get have public schools available.

Well then why is Federal money being spent supporting state schools? Get rid of the handouts and lower taxes so people can afford to buy into the better schools.
 

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So why should only the rich have a choice? Why not give as many people as possible a choice when it comes to education? Why not make the public schools have to compete for students?

Because they can afford to send their kids to private schools.
 

Robor

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Well then why is Federal money being spent supporting state schools? Get rid of the handouts and lower taxes so people can afford to buy into the better schools.

That would definitely make public schools better. Not.
 

Hacp

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That would definitely make public schools better. Not.
You know what would? If we kicked out anyone who wears a doorag. Too bad they don't have the balls to in public schools. I heard they wear uniforms in charter schools.
 

mect

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Because they can afford to send their kids to private schools.

Right, but if we can either pay 10k to send a kid to public school or give the parents 10k to apply to a private school, why not give them the choice if the price is the same.
 
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mect

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That would definitely make public schools better. Not.

Actually, I think real competition would help public schools more than any amount of money, because real competition drives schools to actually do better. A parent that cares can tell if one local school provides a better education than another. The federal government cannot. Instead, it sends out a standardized test to determine which schools are doing well. Competition drives schools to actually provide a better education. Federal money largely drives schools to teach kids to pass a standardized test.