Chirac Under Fire! French Government Looking For Ways To Save On Health Spending!

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"PARIS, Aug 21 (Reuters) - President Jacques Chirac admitted shortcomings in France's prized health system on Thursday as pressure mounted on his government to explain how a killer heatwave claimed an estimated 10,000 lives.

Chirac, who had hoped to cut health spending in an economic austerity drive, made a rare televised address pledging more cash for emergency services as French deaths surged past the toll in other affected countries like Spain and Portugal.

"Everything will be done to remedy the inadequacies that we have seen in our health system," Chirac said after the first meeting of his cabinet following the summer break, breaking his much-criticised silence on the heatwave.

"Our emergency services, so essential, should be better recognised... They will receive the means to respond at any time to these exceptional circumstances," he said.

As temperatures soared past 40 degrees Celsius in the first half of the month, the government initially put the death toll at 3,000. But Hubert Falco, secretary of state for the aged, told reporters on Thursday the government was now using the 10,400 estimate made by a top undertaking firm on Wednesday.

Portugal has said an estimated 1,316 people died from the heat there. Italy said the heatwave pushed up deaths in July and August by roughly 20 percent compared with last year. Spain reported just 100 deaths.

France's health authority chief resigned on Monday amid accusations that authorities were too slow in reacting as France's old people in particular succumbed to dehydration.

Health Minister Jean-Francois Mattei gave no reply when asked by journalists after the cabinet meeting whether he too would quit.

An opinion poll by the CSA institute published in daily Le Parisien showed 51 percent thought Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin had not been up to dealing with the crisis.

Chirac's problems do not stop there. Data on Wednesday showed the French economy in the second quarter shrank its fastest for nearly eight years. Trade unions are preparing new protests against his plans to trim state spending.

Before the heatwave, the government had been looking to make savings on health spending as it was pressed by its European Union peers to do more to reduce its bulging budget deficit, which bust EU limits last year.

Chirac's silence during his holiday in Canada has been attacked by critics and supporters alike, with even the conservative Le Figaro newspaper chiding him on Thursday.

It asked why he had failed to comment on the crisis facing French hospitals while issuing other statements commiserating the death of French actress Marie Trintignant and condemning the attack on the United Nations' Baghdad headquarters.

"True, the Chiracs were a long way away. In Canada, it was raining," it said. (Additional reporting by Emmanuel Jarry and Sophie Louet in Paris, Ian Simpson in Lisbon, Shasta Darlington in Rome and Emma Ross-Thomas in Madrid)


 

BaliBabyDoc

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Feb '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost pennies.

Apr '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $69B.

Sep '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $87B . . . through next Spring.

Neocons always run into trouble when they realize there's no free lunch . . . even when a country is floating in oil.
 
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We can afford the war....Chirac can't afford to save his socialist system, thus he let 10,000 people die to save on the cost of tending to the elderly....


Apologists...UNITE!
 

ChicagoMaroon

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Feb '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost pennies.

Apr '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $69B.

Sep '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $87B . . . through next Spring.

Neocons always run into trouble when they realize there's no free lunch . . . even when a country is floating in oil.

And your point is...? Of course there's no free lunch, but thoughtful people measure the costs of alternatives.

Calculate the economic costs of a terrorist attack in direct costs and lost economic activity, and the money we're spending in Iraq is a drop in the bucket.
 
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Originally posted by: ChicagoMaroon
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Feb '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost pennies.

Apr '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $69B.

Sep '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $87B . . . through next Spring.

Neocons always run into trouble when they realize there's no free lunch . . . even when a country is floating in oil.

And your point is...? Of course there's no free lunch, but thoughtful people measure the costs of alternatives.

Calculate the economic costs of a terrorist attack in direct costs and lost economic activity, and the money we're spending in Iraq is a drop in the bucket.

..let's not forget the value of human life in the North, where Saddam gassed his own people...I wonder who has killed more...Saddam or Chirac...food for thought.

 

konichiwa

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
We can afford the war....Chirac can't afford to save his socialist system, thus he let 10,000 people die to save on the cost of tending to the elderly....


Apologists...UNITE!

Sure we can afford it. We've got the largest deficit since Bush I and our economy is in the pits.

I owe $1,000,000 in credit card debt, but I've been eyeing that new A8...
 
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Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
We can afford the war....Chirac can't afford to save his socialist system, thus he let 10,000 people die to save on the cost of tending to the elderly....


Apologists...UNITE!

Sure we can afford it. We've got the largest deficit since Bush I and our economy is in the pits.

I owe $1,000,000 in credit card debt, but I've been eyeing that new A8...


Could you please define "pits?" Given the level of ambiguity you like to implement into your arguments ("ask" is synonomous with "demand"...."sexual relations" doesn't mean oral or using a cigar as a sex toy..."is" means what again?), I am not sure how to respond to your assertions without getting into a topical debate, or quibbling over symantics.

 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: ChicagoMaroon
Socialists always run into problems when they realize things cost money.

Socialists would'nt have money to cost.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: ChicagoMaroon
Socialists always run into problems when they realize things cost money.

Socialists would'nt have money to cost.

That doesn't make sense...
wouldn't have money to cost?
 

Insane3D

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Calculate the economic costs of a terrorist attack in direct costs and lost economic activity, and the money we're spending in Iraq is a drop in the bucket.

What does Iraq have to do with terrorist attacks?

 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Calculate the economic costs of a terrorist attack in direct costs and lost economic activity, and the money we're spending in Iraq is a drop in the bucket.

What does Iraq have to do with terrorist attacks?

He's one of those confused people who blames Saddam for Sept. 11th, obviously.

Quite clearly both pro and anti-Bush sides are full of idiots.
 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
We can afford the war....Chirac can't afford to save his socialist system, thus he let 10,000 people die to save on the cost of tending to the elderly....


Apologists...UNITE!
I honestly find Chirac's politics disgusting, not just because he is a conservative in his own country, but because he is ultimately corrupt just like our conservative leaders here.

I find it highly Ironic (almost hypocritical ;)) that you are a apologist yourself, for the Bush administration. When you're not bashing the French, Chirac or both; you tend to defend Bush or change the subject.

So... Apologists...UNITE!

 

calbear2000

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: ChicagoMaroon
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Feb '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost pennies.

Apr '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $69B.

Sep '03 . . . War in Iraq will cost $87B . . . through next Spring.

Neocons always run into trouble when they realize there's no free lunch . . . even when a country is floating in oil.

And your point is...? Of course there's no free lunch, but thoughtful people measure the costs of alternatives.

Calculate the economic costs of a terrorist attack in direct costs and lost economic activity, and the money we're spending in Iraq is a drop in the bucket.

..let's not forget the value of human life in the North, where Saddam gassed his own people...I wonder who has killed more...Saddam or Chirac...food for thought.

Is your facetious ignorance just a knee-jerk leveraging reaction to what you perceive as Bush-hating around here? Or are you really that stupid?

No wonder your thread about the 9/11 moment of silence wasn't taken seriously...
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Corn
Neocons always run into trouble when they realize there's no free lunch . . .

Well, that's because neo-con's are socialists.

No, no, no. They are Facists. Gotta keep all those "ists" straight, don't-cha-know.